From: Warwick B. <wa...@ca...> - 2004-06-14 09:55:39
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There has been some discussion on the list regarding applet caching. My understanding is that: (a) to improve caching with the Sun JVM then setting the following=20 parameter is preferred <param name=3D"cache_archive" value=3D"JmolApplet.jar"> (b) if the "cache_archive" parameter is set, the "archive" parameter is not= =20 to be set for the same .jar file (c) I am targeting multiple browers/JVMs, if I want to be able to run on MS= =20 JVM , then I do need to include the "archive" parameter (d) but setting the "achive" parameter to support the MSJVM, prevents the=20 Sun JVM from using the "cache_archive" parameter! So do I mark up the HTML to use BOTH the Sun JVM caching on client=20 machines, AND also support the MSJVM on other client machines? Any comments advice would be very much appreciated. Thank you. Regards, Warwick Bailey University of Cambridge At 22:32 11/06/2004, you wrote: >Send Jmol-users mailing list submissions to > jmo...@li... > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > jmo...@li... > >You can reach the person managing the list at > jmo...@li... > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Jmol-users digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: JmolApplet as a Java standard extension (Chris Pudney) > 2. Re: speed (Chris Pudney) > 3. atomic symbols as sets? (Miguel) > 4. Re: atomic symbols as sets? (E.L. Willighagen) > 5. Re: atomic symbols as sets? (Jan Reichert) > 6. Jmol v10 prerelease 11 (William Reusch) > 7. Re: Re: javascript libraiy (=3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Oliver_St=3DFCker?=3D) > 8. Re: Jmol v10 prerelease 11 (Miguel) > 9. translate on mac safari? (timothy driscoll) > 10. Re: translate on mac safari? (Miguel) > 11. Jmol at ASBMB meeting in boston (timothy driscoll) > 12. Re: translate on mac safari? (timothy driscoll) > 13. pre11 issues (Philip Bays) > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 >Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 10:03:57 +0800 >From: Chris Pudney <ch...@fo...> >To: jmo...@li... >Subject: [Jmol-users] Re: JmolApplet as a Java standard extension >Reply-To: jmo...@li... > >G'day, > >Miguel wrote: > > Q: It would be helpful for me to find some examples ... Are you aware of > > any open-source Java applications that work this way? > >Not open source. However, Sun's Java3D ><http://java.sun.com/products/java-media/3D/>, JavaServlet ><http://java.sun.com/products/servlet/index.jsp> and JavaManagement ><http://java.sun.com/products/servlet/index.jsp> can be installed as= standard >extensions (actually, they're now called "optional packages"). > > > > Q: Do you have any recommendations as to where I should start looking= for > > information about installers? > >I'm afraid not. > >It is worth noting that the JRE will download and install (correctly= signed) >standard extensions itself. All you need is a simple bootstrap JAR in your >application/applet that references the standard extensions JARs in its >Manifest, see ><http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/guide/extensions/versioning.html>. = This >also provides a mechanism for automatically upgrading versions of standard >extensions. N.B. by design this will/should only work with correctly=20 >signed JARs. > >If you take this approach it is probably worth splitting JmolApplet.jar= into >several separate JARs, particularly the 3rd party JARs, to avoid conflicts= in >situations where a user already has the 3rd party JARs installed. > > > > Q: Do you know of any examples where someone is using Java web-start to > > install standard extensions? > >I'm not aware of specific examples but Java Web Start certainly lists >installation of optional packages as one of its features ><http://java.sun.com/products/javawebstart/architecture.html>. Again, I >believe JARs will need to be correctly signed for this to work. > > > > Q: Is there an easy/standard way to detect where the JRE is installed on > > the end-user's system? > >A Java application/applet can tell this from the following system=20 >properties, e.g. > >java.home =3D /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2/jre >java.ext.dirs =3D /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2/jre/lib/ext > >Type 's' into your Java Console for a complete list. > > > > >>You no longer need the archive attribute in your > >>applet tag because all classes in the standard > >>extensions JARs are automatically available to > >>the JRE class-loader. > > > > And this will even work if the archive attribute is present. So it gives > > people a solution for offline use/development. > >Yes - although you need to be careful because I think standard extensions= =20 >JARs >are searched before JARs referenced in the archive attribute. > >Regards, >Chris. > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 2 >Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 10:18:11 +0800 >From: Chris Pudney <ch...@fo...> >To: jmo...@li... >Subject: [Jmol-users] Re: speed >Reply-To: jmo...@li... > >G'day, > >[ again, apologies if this has already been covered ] > > >>- Second is loading the Jmol applet. Takes quite a while too, and > >>it's longer from a web server than from a local file. Only the first > >>time, then it's much quicker (reads form the browser's cache, it > >>seems). > > > >On older browsers with 1.1 JVMs (IE+MSFT JVM & NS4.* on Win32 > >& MacOS 9) it comes from the browser's cache. > > > >On systems with the Sun Java Plug-in (including MacOS X) the plug-in > >maintains a separate cache for downloaded applets. > >This is correct. However, special PARAM tags must be included in the= APPLET >tag to make use of the Java2 Plug-In cache; the default is to use the= browser >cache. For more info see ><http://java.sun.com/products/plugin/1.3/docs/appletcaching.html>. The >ability to version JARs in the Plug-In cache is particularly useful. > >Regards, >Chris. > > > > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 3 >Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:35:38 +0200 (CEST) >From: "Miguel" <mi...@jm...> >To: jmo...@li... >Subject: [Jmol-users] atomic symbols as sets? >Reply-To: jmo...@li... > >My question relates to the use of atomic symbols as predefined sets. > >RasMol/Chime defines the atomic symbols as predefined sets. Jmol currently >does not. > >Over the past year I have received feedback from two people saying that >this should be supported. > >The reason that I did not define them is because I personally believe that >there is too much ambiguity within the scripting language. > >According to the rasmol doc, > >c means carbon >c means cystine >c means cytidine > >I am not sure, but I believe that the interpretation can change depending >upon what molecule is loaded. > >Oh, and of course one could choose to: > >define c {something-else} > >All of this made me sick. Therefore, I decided not to implement the >element symbols. I feel like it eliminates some potential problems. > >However, I am willing to reconsider. If you want to use Al instead of >aluminum or aluminium, now is your chance to ask for it. > > >Miguel > > > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 4 >From: "E.L. Willighagen" <eg...@sc...> >To: jmo...@li..., "Miguel" <mi...@jm...> >Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] atomic symbols as sets? >Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:47:06 +0200 >Reply-To: jmo...@li... > >=3D2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >On Friday 11 June 2004 14:35, Miguel wrote: > > My question relates to the use of atomic symbols as predefined sets. > >What's a set again? That for the scripting part, isn't it? >As an select c*, or so? > > > RasMol/Chime defines the atomic symbols as predefined sets.=3D20 > >What does that mean? > > > Jmol currently does not. > > > > Over the past year I have received feedback from two people saying that > > this should be supported. > > > > The reason that I did not define them is because I personally believe= that > > there is too much ambiguity within the scripting language. > > > > According to the rasmol doc, > > > > c means carbon > > c means cystine > > c means cytidine > > > > I am not sure, but I believe that the interpretation can change= depending > > upon what molecule is loaded. > >Well... it depends on the context... cysteine is an amino acid, not an=3D20 >element... so, if one selects amino acids, c means cysteine... > > > Oh, and of course one could choose to: > > > > define c {something-else} > > > > All of this made me sick. Therefore, I decided not to implement the > > element symbols. I feel like it eliminates some potential problems. > >What does it practically that you do not implement the element symbols? > > > However, I am willing to reconsider. If you want to use Al instead of > > aluminum or aluminium, now is your chance to ask for it. > >Depending on when I can use it, Yes, please keep it in... > >Egon > >=3D2D --=3D20 >eg...@sc... >PhD on Molecular Representation in Chemometrics >Nijmegen University >http://www.cac.sci.kun.nl/people/egonw/ >GPG: 1024D/D6336BA6 > >=3D2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (SunOS) > >iD8DBQFAyanKd9R8I9Yza6YRAuXkAKCKvB+KDdD1aok8pHQw9RL+9reIYgCeMxik >nrXHceB4GliwIPutiFhWKt0=3D3D >=3D3Db/c3 >=3D2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 5 >Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 16:22:35 +0200 >From: Jan Reichert <jr...@im...> >To: jmo...@li... >Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] atomic symbols as sets? >Reply-To: jmo...@li... > >E.L. Willighagen wrote: > > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >On Friday 11 June 2004 14:35, Miguel wrote: > > > > > >>My question relates to the use of atomic symbols as predefined sets. > >> > >> > > > >What's a set again? That for the scripting part, isn't it? > >As an select c*, or so? > > > > > > > >>RasMol/Chime defines the atomic symbols as predefined sets. > >> > >> > > > >What does that mean? > > > > > > > >>Jmol currently does not. > >> > >>Over the past year I have received feedback from two people saying that > >>this should be supported. > >> > >>The reason that I did not define them is because I personally believe= that > >>there is too much ambiguity within the scripting language. > >> > >>According to the rasmol doc, > >> > >>c means carbon > >>c means cystine > >>c means cytidine > >> > >> > >> >I think this RasMol (I fear it was the prehistoric one) documentation >needs to be corrected > select C >in RasMol2.7.2 only selects only Cytidine > >if you want to select carbon you had to do > select carbon > >and if you want to select cystine you had to > select cys >would select [cys] or [cyh] >but what is bad with RasMol2.7.2 > select [cyh] >wouldn't select neither [cys] nor [cyh] >not even cyclohexanone in 1gvq (that was the drawback of overloading, >ok, it could be made better ...) >http://www.imb-jena.de/cgi-bin/SCOPlnk.exe?JMOL=3D1gvq >I'm glad, with Jmol > select cys > select [cys] >would select the amino acid cystine >and > select cyh > select [cyh] >would select cyclohexanone > > >>I am not sure, but I believe that the interpretation can change= depending > >>upon what molecule is loaded. > >> > >> >not to my experience. > > > > >Well... it depends on the context... cysteine is an amino acid, not an > >element... so, if one selects amino acids, c means cysteine... > > > > > > > >>Oh, and of course one could choose to: > >> > >>define c {something-else} > >> > >>All of this made me sick. Therefore, I decided not to implement the > >>element symbols. I feel like it eliminates some potential problems. > >> > >> >for me, select carbon is enough > > > > >What does it practically that you do not implement the element symbols? > > > > > > > >>However, I am willing to reconsider. If you want to use Al instead of > >>aluminum or aluminium, now is your chance to ask for it. > >> > >> >no. >Regards, Jan > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 6 >Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 10:53:07 -0400 >From: William Reusch <whr...@ms...> >Organization: msu.edu >To: jmo...@li... >Subject: [Jmol-users] Jmol v10 prerelease 11 >Reply-To: jmo...@li... > >Miguel, > >I have been trying out the new prerelease11 with 6 or 7 pages I have=20 >converted from Chime, and it seems to be working well on both a Pentium 3= =20 >platform running I.E. 5, and a Macintosh G4 running Netscape 7 with OS=20 >10.2. The Pentium system seems quicker than the Mac. >The animation problem I communicated earlier is now fixed. Again the=20 >animation is smoother on the Pentium machine. I have no problem running=20 >these pages from a server or from a local hard drive. As you noted, it is= =20 >necessary to put the applet files in the same directory as the pages using= it. >One quirk I have noticed with all platform combinations is that on=20 >starting a session, when the first page calling the applet has several=20 >Jmol displays side by side (I often do this), only one display is shown. A= =20 >reload fixes this, and if one continues to open new pages with multiple=20 >Jmol displays they display correctly. Clearly, this is a minor= inconvenience. >I might also note that for many purposes Java Applet Control buttons are a= =20 >useful alternative to JavaScript buttons. It's too bad they don't show=20 >special characters. >I appreciate your help and advice. > >Bill > > > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 7 >Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 16:55:25 +0200 >From: =3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Oliver_St=3DFCker?=3D= <re...@ch...> >To: jmo...@li... >Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] Re: javascript libraiy >Reply-To: jmo...@li... > >Jan Reichert wrote: > > > Miguel wrote: > > > >> Paul wrote: > >> > >>> Jean-Philippe Demers has created a library for interacting with Chime, > >>> and specially to deal with the liveconnect issue in internet explorer= : > >>> http://www3.sympatico.ca/diane.demers/moi/ > >> > >> Thank you for pointing this out. > >> > >> It would be good if someone with extensive Chime & JavaScript= experience > >> could take a look at it. > >> > > without extensive Chime & JavaScript experience I only read this > > sentence on the page: > > " > > *It appears that your current configuration is NOT compatible with the > > Mechanism of Interaction.* > > " > > and I'm using Mozilla1.7rc3 on XP with Chime2.6sp5 > > >Hi! > >If you change your Useragent-string by adding "Netscape/7.1" >(e.g. with the "User Agent Switcher Extension from: >http://www.chrispederick.com/work/firefox/useragentswitcher/ ) > >you can view these pages with other Mozilla based Browsers. (I am >running Firefox 0.8 like this.) > >...Oliver > >[...] >-- >Oliver St=FCker >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=3D University of Paderborn =3D Office: W1.111 = =3D >=3D Faculty of Science/Dep. of Chemistry =3D phone: +49 (5251) 60-5466 = =3D >=3D Warburger Str. 100 =3D fax: +49 (5251) 60-3245 = =3D >=3D D-33098 Paderborn =3D e-mail: re...@ch... = =3D >=3D Germany =3D http://oc24.upb.de/~revilo = =3D >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 8 >Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 17:08:04 +0200 (CEST) >Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol v10 prerelease 11 >From: "Miguel" <mi...@jm...> >To: jmo...@li... >Reply-To: jmo...@li... > > > I have been trying out the new prerelease11 with 6 or 7 pages I have > > converted from Chime, and it seems to be working well on both a Pentium= 3 > > platform running I.E. 5, and a Macintosh G4 running Netscape 7 with OS > > 10.2. The Pentium system seems quicker than the Mac. > >With roughly equivalent hardware, both Macs and Linux are slower than >Win32 in graphics performance. > >In addition your OSX 10.2 probably has Java 1.3.1. This is slower than >10.3 with Java 1.4.1. > > > The animation problem I communicated earlier is now fixed. >Good. > > > Again the > > animation is smoother on the Pentium machine. I have no problem running > > these pages from a server or from a local hard drive. As you noted, it= is > > necessary to put the applet files in the same directory as the pages= using > > it. > > One quirk I have noticed with all platform combinations is that on > > starting a session, when the first page calling the applet has several > > Jmol displays side by side (I often do this), only one display is shown. > >I have not seen this. > >On which browser does it happen. > > > A > > reload fixes this, and if one continues to open new pages with multiple > > Jmol displays they display correctly. Clearly, this is a minor > > inconvenience. > >I am quite certain that it is a browser/JVM bug. > > > I might also note that for many purposes Java Applet Control buttons are= a > > useful alternative to JavaScript buttons. It's too bad they don't show > > special characters. > > I appreciate your help and advice. > >Thanks for the report. > > >Miguel > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 9 >Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 15:04:17 -0400 >From: timothy driscoll <mol...@ma...> >To: LIST Jmol developers <jmo...@li...>, > LIST Jmol users <jmo...@li...> >Subject: [Jmol-users] translate on mac safari? >Reply-To: jmo...@li... > >greetings, > >help! how can I translate a molecule in Jmol (applet), running in >Safari on Mac OSX? I am running 10pre10g and I think I've tried all >possible modifier-mousekey combos (though apparently I've missed at >least one, eh?). > >many thanks, > > >tim >--=3D20 >Timothy Driscoll >molvisions - see, grasp, learn. ><http://www.molvisions.com/> >usa:north carolina:wake forest > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 10 >Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 23:06:13 +0200 (CEST) >Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] translate on mac safari? >From: "Miguel" <mi...@jm...> >To: jmo...@li... >Reply-To: jmo...@li... > > > > greetings, > > > > help! how can I translate a molecule in Jmol (applet), running in > > Safari on Mac OSX? I am running 10pre10g and I think I've tried all > > possible modifier-mousekey combos (though apparently I've missed at > > least one, eh?). > > > > many thanks, > >shift double click & hold in order to drag. > >shift double click will reset > > >Miguel > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 11 >Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 17:22:20 -0400 >From: timothy driscoll <mol...@ma...> >To: LIST Jmol developers <jmo...@li...>, > LIST Jmol users <jmo...@li...> >Subject: [Jmol-users] Jmol at ASBMB meeting in boston >Reply-To: jmo...@li... > >greetings, > >if anyone is attending the ASBMB/IUBMB conference in Boston (6.12-6.16), >I will present a 15 minute demo of a new Jmol-based resource authoring >tool at the BioMoleculesAlive digital library session: > > >ORAL PRESENTATION INFO: >Abstract Number: 2069 >Abstract Title: MolVisCreator -- Resource Authoring at >BioMoleculesAlive. > >=3D46irst Author: Timothy Driscoll >Session Title: BioMolecules Alive: The ASBMB Digital Library >Session Time: 12:15:00 PM - 1:15:00 PM >Day of presentation: June 14, Monday >Presentation Time: 12:20:00 PM >Program Number: 84.1 >Location: Hynes Convention Center, Room 309 > > > >I hope to see some of you there! > > >regards, > >tim >--=3D20 >Timothy Driscoll >molvisions - see, grasp, learn. ><http://www.molvisions.com/> >usa:north carolina:wake forest > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 12 >Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 17:25:59 -0400 >From: timothy driscoll <mol...@ma...> >Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] translate on mac safari? >To: jmo...@li... >Reply-To: jmo...@li... > >Miguel sent (2004.06.11 at 11.06p [+0200gmt]) : > > > > >>greetings, > >> > >>help! how can I translate a molecule in Jmol (applet), running in > >>Safari on Mac OSX? I am running 10pre10g and I think I've tried > >>all possible modifier-mousekey combos (though apparently I've > >>missed at least one, eh?). > >> > >>many thanks, > > > >shift double click & hold in order to drag. > > > >I would have *sworn* on a stack of bibles that I tried that, since that >was the combo that I recall. but, since it works now, apparently the >hot weather here in NC has caused me to hallucinate. > ><swatting flying pink elephants> > >many thanks, Miguel. > >tim >--=3D20 >Timothy Driscoll >molvisions - see, grasp, learn. ><http://www.molvisions.com/> >usa:north carolina:wake forest > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 13 >To: Jmol Jmol <jmo...@li...> >From: Philip Bays <pb...@sa...> >Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 16:30:41 -0500 >Subject: [Jmol-users] pre11 issues >Reply-To: jmo...@li... > > >--Apple-Mail-1--839424913 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=3DUS-ASCII; > format=3Dflowed > >I have been out of touch so these may have been covered. I use mac OSX >10.3.4 > >1. In jmol, if I open a second window, the icons are missing in the >menu bar except for the load one. If you clink at the right places on >the bar, the others show up. > >2. The applet seems to have broken my tutorial. I do not get the >script to load a structure on the opening page, but it does so for the >subsequent problems. Here are my "instructions". It is the red line >that does not seem to take place. > > ><td><div name=3D'divApplet2' id=3D'divApplet2' align=3D"center"> > <applet name=3D"jMolB" id=3D"jMolB" > code=3D"JmolApplet" > archive=3D"JmolApplet.jar" > width=3D"290" height=3D"290" > mayscript=3D"true"> > <param name =3D"progressbar" value =3D "true"/> > <param name=3D"emulate" value=3D"chime" /> > <param name=3D"bgcolor" value=3D"#000000" /> > <param name=3D"style" value=3D"shaded"/> > <param name=3D"debugscript" value=3D"true" /> > <param name=3D"script" value =3D"load=20 > 'molecule6/molecule6.pdb'; rotate >y 90; rotate x 60; cpk 0.5; wireframe 0.15; spin on;" /> > / > </applet> > </div></td> > </tr> > > >www.saintmarys.edu/~pbays/StChem/Index.html > >Phil > >J. Philip Bays >Professor of Chemistry >Science Hall 158 >Saint Mary's College >Notre Dame IN 46556 >(574) 284-4663 >--Apple-Mail-1--839424913 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Content-Type: text/enriched; > charset=3DUS-ASCII > >I have been out of touch so these may have been covered. I use mac >OSX 10.3.4 > > >1. In jmol, if I open a second window, the icons are missing in the >menu bar except for the load one. If you clink at the right places >on the bar, the others show up. > > >2. The applet seems to have broken my tutorial. I do not get the >script to load a structure on the opening page, but it does so for the >subsequent problems. Here are my "instructions". It is the red >line that does not seem to take place. > > > ><<td><<div name=3D'divApplet2' id=3D'divApplet2' align=3D"center"> > > <<applet name=3D"jMolB" id=3D"jMolB" > > code=3D"JmolApplet" > > archive=3D"JmolApplet.jar" > > width=3D"290" height=3D"290" > > mayscript=3D"true"> > > <<param name =3D"progressbar" value =3D "true"/> > > <<param name=3D"emulate" value=3D"chime" /> > > <<param name=3D"bgcolor" value=3D"#000000" /> > > <<param name=3D"style" value=3D"shaded"/> > > <<param name=3D"debugscript" value=3D"true" /> > > <color><param>FFFF,0000,0000</param><<param name=3D"script= "=20 > value >=3D"load 'molecule6/molecule6.pdb'; rotate y 90; rotate x 60; cpk 0.5; >wireframe 0.15; spin on;" /> > ></color> / > > <</applet> > > <</div><</td> > > <</tr> > > > >www.saintmarys.edu/~pbays/StChem/Index.html > > >Phil > > >J. Philip Bays > >Professor of Chemistry > >Science Hall 158 > >Saint Mary's College > >Notre Dame IN 46556 > >(574) 284-4663 >--Apple-Mail-1--839424913-- > > > > >--__--__-- > >_______________________________________________ >Jmol-users mailing list >Jmo...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users > > >End of Jmol-users Digest Warwick R Bailey MRSC CChem University of Cambridge CARET Centre for Applied Research in Educational Technologies 16 Mill Lane Cambridge CB2 1SB England Tel: ++44 (0) 1223 765361 Fax: ++44 (0) 1223 765505 eMail: wa...@ca... web: www.caret.cam.ac.uk |