From: Robert H. <ha...@st...> - 2008-09-02 18:16:07
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Xavier, When I looked at that site, I thought the molecules that were being missed were not very precise models, or I think were not very representative of real molecules. Is that a correct characterization? For example, C7 is not supported. Do you have an actual molecular example of that? So before you conclude that there's a real problem, I suggest using real molecules. :) The Mac problem -- just give me one specific example of the problem, and others can try it on their Macs to see what they can determine. Bob On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Xavier Prat-Resina <xa...@ch...>wrote: > Bob, > > regarding the point group symmetry, I'm still observing the same problems I > reported > few weeks ago. > http://144.92.39.89/xavier/symmetry/ > It's true that in Mac Jmol freezes and in Windows it doesn't (IE/FF), but > jmol doesn't > find all the symmetry operations the molecules have. > > Xavier > > > On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 7:03 AM, Dean Johnston <djo...@gm...>wrote: > >> Thanks - works beautifully - and now has a draw pointgroup button. (It >> still doesn't work with Safari for some reason, though - I haven't had time >> to track that down.) >> >> Dean >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Robert Hanson <ha...@st...>wrote: >> >>> OK, that's fixed. It was a problem with my uploading -- My Filezilla >>> script hadn't been updated to include the additional symmetry class files. >>> So although JmolApplet.jar worked, JmolApplet0.jar didn't. Same for signed. >>> >>> Dean, your page is working now -- it's such a nice page, can you add a >>> button for >>> >>> draw pointgroup >>> >>> as well? >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 10:23 PM, Dean Johnston <djo...@gm...>wrote: >>> >>>> No, it's freezing for me as well. It's pulling the most recent version >>>> of Jmol from http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/, so it >>>> seems to be something that's changed in Jmol. I've updated the page so that >>>> it doesn't try to check the point group until you push the *Check Point >>>> Group* button. That's when it freezes for me. >>>> >>>> The code for this page has lots of unecessary junk hanging around since >>>> it was adapted from the "Gallery" page. The molecules are defined in >>>> individual Javascript (JSON) files. I read in the Javascript file using >>>> *XMLHttpRequest* and then pass the molecule to Jmol as an inline data >>>> file. If you want molecules that you can check, go to >>>> http://symmetry.otterbein.edu/gallery_old/molecules/moldata.xml. That >>>> should give you a listing of all the molecules in that directory that are >>>> xml files. Prototype.js (http://www.prototypejs.org/) is Javascript >>>> framework that makes some AJAX (like XMLHttpRequest and DOM manipulation) >>>> stuff a bit easier. >>>> >>>> Dean >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 10:20 PM, Robert Hanson <ha...@st...>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dean, is http://symmetry.otterbein.edu/pgtest/ working for you? It >>>>> seems frozen for me. Models show up but cannot be rotated. I can't figure >>>>> out what is wrong. >>>>> >>>>> Also, how does this page work? What is prototype.js? Where do the >>>>> molecules come from? >>>>> >>>>> Bob >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Robert M. Hanson >>>>> Professor of Chemistry >>>>> St. Olaf College >>>>> Northfield, MN >>>>> http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If nature does not answer first what we want, >>>>> it is better to take what answer we get. >>>>> >>>>> -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's >>>>> challenge >>>>> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great >>>>> prizes >>>>> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the >>>>> world >>>>> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Jmol-developers mailing list >>>>> Jmo...@li... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-developers >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's >>>> challenge >>>> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great >>>> prizes >>>> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the >>>> world >>>> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Jmol-developers mailing list >>>> Jmo...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-developers >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Robert M. Hanson >>> Professor of Chemistry >>> St. Olaf College >>> Northfield, MN >>> http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr >>> >>> >>> If nature does not answer first what we want, >>> it is better to take what answer we get. >>> >>> -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's >>> challenge >>> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great >>> prizes >>> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the >>> world >>> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Jmol-developers mailing list >>> Jmo...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-developers >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's >> challenge >> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great >> prizes >> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the >> world >> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Jmol-developers mailing list >> Jmo...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-developers >> >> > > > -- > Xavier Prat-Resina > Research Associate > Journal of Chemical Education and University of Wisconsin > 209 N. Brooks St. Madison, WI 53715-1116 > > Tel: 608 8901702 // Fax: 608 2627145 > e-mail: xavier ( ) chem.wisc.edu ; skype: xavierprat > http://x.prat.resina.googlepages.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great > prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > Jmol-developers mailing list > Jmo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-developers > > -- Robert M. Hanson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College Northfield, MN http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 |