RE: [JBoss-dev] Jboss/David Vs. Sun/Goliath?

[Fred H. <fre...@we...>]

Don't be too sure that there isn't a number of months of effort to pass =
the
conformance suite. There are lots of edge cases and areas of =
interpretation
when implementing from a spec. There are also stupid things in specs =
that
implementers chose to implement differently with just cause.

Certainly the bits that developers care about are compatible.=20

The issue may be more about putting in the effort to do marginally =
useful
changes just to pass the conformance suite when there are some =
beautiful 4.0
features to work on, but maybe both can get done if everyone submits a =
patch
or two...

-Fred


-----Original Message-----
From: Rhett Aultman [mailto:Rau...@fc...]
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 7:12 AM
To: jbo...@li...
Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Jboss/David Vs. Sun/Goliath?


It's interesting, since I didn't think anyone in JBoss was bluffing.
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Question, though: JBoss is free, right?  Therefore, before Sun goes =
around
with the bravado, couldn't they have downloaded JBoss and run it =
against the
compliance suite to know if it would pass or not?  It seems to me that, =
if
anyone's bluffing, it's them.

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	From: Jeff Haynie [mailto:jh...@vo...]=20
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	Cc:=20
	Subject: [JBoss-dev] Jboss/David Vs. Sun/Goliath?
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	Famous quote from Sun on News.com:
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	http://news.com.com/2100-1013-993471.html?tag=3Dfd_top
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	'Phipps said Wednesday that making the compliance test available
will
	make it clear that Sun does not want to intentionally obstruct JBoss
	Group's efforts to gain J2EE compliance.
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	However, Phipps said he doubts that JBoss software will pass the
	compliance test. Basing his opinion on public information, he said,
	JBoss software does not appear to implement all of the J2EE
	specification.
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	"I predict that now that we're calling their bluff, they will make
up
	another excuse for not doing the tests," Phipps said. '
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	So, Sun's calling our bluff???
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