From: Philip W. <ph...@th...> - 2005-02-15 02:42:34
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Imagine something not unlike User mode linux, except under win32 (although it can also boot from linux as a host - just like uml). From memory, it needs a reboot to install tap / pcap drivers to allow the linux virtual machine network access (which you can bridge to, so that it acts as if attached to your real network interface). I've used cygwin, and vmware in the past; I'd hate to knock either - as both boast some powerful and unique capabilities. It's one of those right tools for the right job scenarios. In this case, I'd suggest that gumstix buildroot on win32 would be well suited to colinux (it's not GUI or hardware interface intensive), just a bunch of makefiles, downloads, and compile jobs that need doing with as little fuss as possible - colinux does this sort of stuff pretty efficiently. It would be easy to snapshot a working colinux + hd image (with gumstix buildroot) that would offer windows (and even certain linux) users an easy & identical unzip and go option, if sufficient demand where there. However, the big caveat emptor with it is that colinux is undergoing heavy, steady development - so today's latest release may be a complete turkey. Perhaps I chanced upon a build (about 3 months ago) that worked really well for me with a debian image, gumstix buildroot, and a 2.6.x kernel - Who knows? However, I have found that for many my particular tasks it's easier & quicker to get to a satisfactory & working state with than vmware, or cygwin, and allows me to keep in sync with the up to date compiler tools' packages on my linux box. Apart from the virtual tap/pcap windows device, and optional windows service that it can install (so that the linux VM runs silently from boot in the background) it doesn't do anything nasty. Indeed if it gets out of control, it can be killed via taskmanager just like a normal windows process. I guess, in that respect, Its only slightly more likely to affect the stability of the win32 host than cygwin would do. It's never crashed on me yet.... Either way, I think gumstix would do well to tend toward a stable method to build software, no matter whether the host happens to be linux, OS X, BSD, or win32. It's open to debate if cygwin constitutes a better/worse fudge/workaround than something like colinux in achieving this aim - but I think it's a worthy contender, not least because once booted ok it acts just like native linux. Phil -----Original Message----- From: gum...@li... [mailto:gum...@li...] On Behalf Of Ted Larson Sent: 14 February 2005 21:47 To: gum...@li... Subject: RE: [Gumstix-users] Windows tool chain.... Looks interesting....I haven't seen that before. I couldn't tell from looking at the FAQ's, but does it mess with your windows boot? Or is it fairly standalone like Cygwin? I guess that is the one thing I like about Cygwin....is that it is well isolated from Windows. - Ted -----Original Message----- From: gum...@li... [mailto:gum...@li...] On Behalf Of Philip White Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 10:37 AM To: gum...@li... Subject: RE: [Gumstix-users] Windows tool chain.... Alternatively, I use colinux when away from my dedicated linux box. http://www.colinux.org/ Especially good when using one of smaller starter debian disk image's, making adding just the tools needed (like svn) via apt-get. Freenx makes it easy to use GUI apps responsively too. -----Original Message----- From: gum...@li... [mailto:gum...@li...] On Behalf Of Victor Mulyk Sent: 14 February 2005 18:25 To: 'gum...@li...' Subject: RE: [Gumstix-users] Windows tool chain.... VMWare with Linux as a guest? -----Original Message----- From: Ted Larson [mailto:te...@la...] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 11:10 AM To: gum...@li... Subject: RE: [Gumstix-users] Windows tool chain.... It looks like it is using ash as it's /bin/sh, and ash definitely doesn't handle functions like this. I switched over to using bash instead and it goes much further..i.e. no more errors, but now I am running into trouble with cygwin hanging middle of the build from the sheer volume of shell forks. It will hang at places like "exiting directory xxx". Has anyone out there actually built the tool chain under cygwin? Is there some better way to get a tool chain running under windows? Thanks, - Ted -----Original Message----- From: gum...@li... [mailto:gum...@li...] On Behalf Of Craig Hughes Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 11:37 AM To: gum...@li... Subject: Re: [Gumstix-users] Windows tool chain.... On Feb 12, 2005, at 10:38 AM, Ted Larson wrote: > patches/patchin.sh: 43: Syntax error: "(" unexpected Hmm. That line is: function find_lines () { which looks syntactically fine... What is your /bin/sh in cygwin? 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