From: IRC <wt...@us...> - 2003-10-22 08:45:35
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******************************************************************* [03:01] <_LJ> It's not the distro--everything i have was built from source with alsa as one of the use flags. [03:01] <_LJ> I'm running a 2.6 kernel (which does not support oss). Perhaps that's the problem. [03:01] <ds-work> doubt it. It merely looks for the alsa libs [03:02] <_LJ> 0.92 is definitely installed. Should I try a different version then recompile gstreamer? [03:03] <ds-work> unlikely to help [03:03] <_LJ> well, it's no effort--it's already compiling alsa-lib 0.9.7 [03:06] <_LJ> gstreamer looks in /usr/lib right? I'm guessing it can't possibly miss these libs. [03:06] <ds-work> it shouldn't, no [03:07] <ds-work> check config.log and search for ALSA [03:07] <_LJ> i'm only running gstreamer 0.6.3. Would i have better luck with the 0.7.x series? [03:09] <ds-work> for discovering alsa? no. For alsa performance, I don't know [03:09] <ds-work> a lot of stuff is broken in 0.7 right now [03:10] <_LJ> grep -i alsa config.log <--- nothing comes out at all. [03:11] <ds-work> gst-plugins, of course [03:11] <ds-work> not gstreamer [03:16] <_LJ> why is it deciding not to build certain plugins? [03:16] <_LJ> configure: These plugins will not be built: aasink | configure: These plugins will not be built: gstalsa [03:17] <_LJ> No explination. [03:17] <_LJ> explanation even [03:21] <ds-work> the explanation is earlier, or in config.log [03:24] <_LJ> it's running --disable-alsa for some reason. Does it examine USE flags? [03:25] <ds-work> uh, why are you running configure with --disable-alsa? [03:26] <_LJ> the configure script seems to have done that itself. [03:26] <_LJ> i guess i'll force --with-alsa [03:26] <ds-work> um, no. configure scripts don't magically get options [03:33] <_LJ> i think this is all autoconf's fault. [03:34] <ds-work> are you running ./configure with a sane environment with the gst-plugins-0.6.4 release? [03:35] <_LJ> gst-plugins and gstreamer are 0.6.3 [03:39] <ds-work> close enough [03:40] <ds-work> are you running ./configure yourself, or through an ebuild? [03:40] <_LJ> i'm running it myself right now [03:40] thaytan (ja...@ad...) joined #gstreamer. [03:42] <_LJ> loosk like it will emerge with alsa plugins if i don't use the ebuild. [03:42] <_LJ> Any idea why the ebuild was disabling it? [03:44] <ds-work> no [03:47] <_LJ> oh well, this is what i want, thanks. hopefully rhythmbox will use alsa once i run gstreamer-properties and tell it to default with alsa. [03:56] harshy|lap (~ha...@dh...) left irc: "I quit for now" [04:02] walters (wa...@ve...) joined #gstreamer. [04:06] <Company> ebuild disables alsa because 0.6 alsa is broken [04:07] <_LJ> howso? [04:07] <Company> nobody ever fixed the plugin [04:07] <_LJ> But OSS is deprecated. What am I supposed to use? [04:08] <Company> oss [04:08] <Company> the HEAD cvs has a working alsasink [04:08] <_LJ> 2.6.x doesn't support oss. [04:10] dolphy (~do...@21...) left irc: "Network down, IP Packets delivered via UPS" [04:11] <_LJ> is the head cvs safe to use? [04:15] <_LJ> i guess that's a rhetorical question. [04:26] <Company> heh [04:26] <Company> and 2.6 does support oss [04:27] <Company> either directly or by using alsa's oss emulation [04:27] <Company> which both works better than native alsa (sadly) [04:31] <_LJ> only by using alsa's oss emulation afaik [04:31] <_LJ> native alsa has worked very well for me. [04:34] <thaytan> Company: not for me :) [04:34] <thaytan> oss emulation in 2.6 is pretty broken for me [04:38] <_LJ> i'm making gstreamer from CVS. Do i need the same version of gst-plugins? [04:39] <_LJ> actually, i assume i do i just don't see a link to the cvs version on the gstreamer page. [04:53] <thaytan> _LJ: it's in the same repository [04:53] <thaytan> just co gst-plugins instead of 'co gstreamer' [04:53] <_LJ> Yeah, i pulled it down. [04:55] walters (wa...@ve...) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:55] Action: wheels is away: sleep [04:57] <_LJ> i installed gstreamer from CVS and now gstreamer-properties fails with the following error message: error while loading shared libraries: libgstgconf-0.6.so.0: No such file or directory [05:00] _LJ (~LJ...@md...) left irc: "Client exiting" [05:32] walters (wa...@ve...) joined #gstreamer. [05:34] ChrHJW_log (~ch...@p5...) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:11] lilo (le...@li...eenode) left irc: "brb" [06:16] lilo (le...@li...eenode) joined #gstreamer. 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[13:56] <thomasvs> hm, that sounds strange :) [13:56] <ralphm> now the input streams are not synchronised, and even sometimes in random order [13:59] <ralphm> thomasvs: I /am/ using an older version of the main branch, were there any scheduling anomalies you know of? [14:08] <thomasvs> not beyond the usual bugs, no [14:09] <ralphm> hmm [14:09] <ralphm> You know I asked for the syncing element? [14:09] <ralphm> I just found it, it is called shaper ;-) [14:09] <ralphm> I'll try and go from there [14:51] sublett (~rv...@21...) left irc: "I like food, food is good!" [15:01] thaytan (ja...@ad...) left irc: "leaving" [15:02] thaytan (~ja...@ad...) joined #gstreamer. [15:17] thomasvs (~th...@25...) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:21] thomasvs (~th...@25...) joined #gstreamer. [15:32] yippi (~br...@nw...) joined #gstreamer. [15:54] athom (~the...@so...) joined #gstreamer. [15:57] cmiles (~cm...@rt...) joined #gstreamer. [16:00] cmiles (~cm...@rt...) left #gstreamer. [16:05] foser (d0...@22...) joined #gstreamer. [16:26] giard (~jon...@19...) joined #gstreamer. [16:26] <giard> hi all [16:31] <giard> is anyone still working on the swfdec library? [16:32] kwm (~kw...@c7...) joined #gstreamer. [16:33] sjoerd_ (~sj...@si...) joined #gstreamer. [16:46] sjoerd (sj...@be...) left irc: Read error: 13 (Permission denied) [16:48] kmaraas (~km...@18...) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:49] <thomasvs> giard: ds is [16:57] <giard> I was just wondering because the cvs looks pretty out of date [16:57] Company (~Company@pD958B564.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gstreamer. [16:59] <giard> (and I was thinking of maybe doing a similar project or contributing to it...) [17:02] md` (ill...@md...) left irc: [17:03] Action: Company needs to compile a gtk program in windows [17:03] <Company> shall i try gstreamer, too? [17:04] <Company> or would that be too much pain? [17:05] sublett (~rv...@21...) joined #gstreamer. 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[20:54] <earthworm> is this line right for apt? [20:54] <earthworm> rpm http://gstreamer.net/releases/redhat/ redhat-9-i386 deps redhat [20:54] <earthworm> i get errors on apt-get update [20:54] <earthworm> "Ign http://gstreamer.net redhat-9-i386/redhat release" [20:55] <earthworm> "Ign http://gstreamer.net redhat-9-i386/deps release" [20:56] <earthworm> seems weird, because i didn't mention anything about 'release' in that line [20:59] Action: earthworm cries [21:02] <ds-work> ignore it [21:02] <ds-work> it's not an error [21:02] <earthworm> oh right [21:02] <earthworm> what does it mean then? [21:03] <ds-work> it means it couldn't find the Release file, which isn't critical [21:04] ChrisHJW (~chr...@p5...) joined #gstreamer. [21:05] <earthworm> i can only see 0.6.3 rpms [21:06] <earthworm> isn't the latest version on there yet? [21:07] <ds-work> don't know [21:10] ChristianHJW (~chr...@p5...) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:18] Action: earthworm drops back to 0.6.3 and gives up [21:18] earthworm (~ear...@cp...) left #gstreamer ("Leaving"). [21:20] ChrHJW_log (~ch...@p5...) left irc: Connection timed out [21:29] yippi (~br...@nw...) left irc: "Client exiting" [21:32] ct_ (~Chr...@ad...) joined #gstreamer. [21:32] matroska_mirrorb (~ch...@p5...) joined #gstreamer. [21:33] Nick change: matroska_mirrorb -> ChrHJW_log [21:46] <Company> anybody with .au knowledge in here? [21:48] Action: ds-work knows where it is... [21:50] <Company> i just want to know if an .au file starts with ".snd" or if it can start with "dns.", too as our ty<pefind detects [21:51] <ds-work> oh, _that_ .au [21:51] <Company> heh [21:51] <Company> you thought australia? :) [21:51] <ds-work> yep [21:52] <ds-work> the wrong-endian version of .au starts with 0x0064732e [21:52] <ds-work> little endian [21:52] <ds-work> according to the magic file [21:52] <Company> ok, so both is possible [21:53] <ds-work> I don't know if "dns." is real [21:53] <Company> 0x0064732e ? [21:53] <Company> 0x646e732e would be "dns." and is what we use in typefinding [21:54] <ds-work> hrm. [21:54] <ds-work> the magic file might be wrong then [21:54] <ds-work> er no [21:54] <ds-work> that's little endian [21:54] <ds-work> so it's '.sd\NUL' [21:55] <Company> that's not it :) [21:55] <ds-work> huh? [21:55] <ds-work> do you have an example file? [21:55] <Company> no, i only have some docs [21:57] <ds-work> AFAIK, 'dns.' is bogus, as I haven't seen anything to back it up. [21:57] <ds-work> magic claims that le 0x0064732e is a DEC alpha version of sun audio [21:58] <Company> i'll just use ".snd" and leave a note [21:59] <ds-work> anyone want to port xmms-gtk2 to gstreamer? [21:59] <BBB> nah [21:59] <BBB> I want to make a DVD ripper [21:59] <BBB> all code needed is already available in gst-rec [21:59] <Company> and i'll rewrite this code to not do if (*(guint32*)) data = 0x646e732e) ... [21:59] <BBB> so it should be fairly easy [22:00] <Company> if (strncmp (data, ".snd", 4)) sounds clearer [22:00] <BBB> and after that, I want to make a re-encoder/transcoder [22:00] <Company> and is endian safe ... [22:00] <BBB> does it have to be clear? [22:00] <BBB> and it's not strncmp() [22:00] <BBB> that's possibly UTF-8 incompatible [22:00] <BBB> use memcmp() [22:00] <Company> hello? [22:00] <ds-work> it's not utf8 [22:00] <Company> to compare 4 bytes to ".snd"? ;) [22:01] #gstreamer: mode change '-o ds-work' by ds-work!ds...@co... [22:01] <BBB> strncmp() reads UTF-8, no? [22:01] <ds-work> no [22:01] <BBB> ohwell, nevermind [22:01] <BBB> I'm dumb ;) [22:01] <BBB> ignore me ;) [22:01] <Company> is there a difference between strncmp and memcmp? [22:01] <ds-work> it reads arbitrary byte streams ending in \0 [22:02] <ds-work> strncmp ends on a NUL [22:02] <Company> so if i would compare 4 random bytes to ".snd", i'd use ... ? [22:03] <ds-work> whatever you want [22:03] <ds-work> strncmp is nice [22:03] <Company> not that it barfs on 0x03 or so [22:04] <BBB> memcmp() is more obvious [22:20] <ds-work> personally, I use G_UINT32_FROM_BE(*(guint32 *)ptr) == GST_MAKE_FOURCC('a','b','c','d') [22:22] The_Company (~Company@pD958B564.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gstreamer. [22:22] Company (~Company@pD958B564.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:22] The_Company (~Company@pD958B564.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:22] The_Company (~Company@pD958B564.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gstreamer. [22:22] Nick change: The_Company -> Company [22:36] Zeenix (~zak@203.135.60.235) joined #gstreamer. [22:36] <Zeenix> hi [22:42] Eldhrin (~ma...@cp...) left irc: "leaving" [22:44] Eldhrin (~ma...@cp...) joined #gstreamer. [22:58] Eldhrin (~ma...@cp...) left irc: "leaving" [23:04] Company (~Company@pD958B564.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:06] Company (~Company@pD958B564.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gstreamer. [23:10] <Company> hm, the win98 scheduler sucks, too [23:12] sublett (~rv...@21...) left irc: "I like food, food is good!" [23:13] <ds-work> ? [23:14] <Zeenix> hi guys [23:14] ChrisHJW (~chr...@p5...) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:16] Uraeus (~csc...@wp...) joined #gstreamer. [23:18] <Uraeus> evening [23:20] <Uraeus> thomasvs: pingeling [23:25] <Zeenix> hi Uraeus [23:25] <Uraeus> hello Zeenix [23:26] <ds-work> how well does cygwin work inside wine? [23:26] <ds-work> or rather, cygwin+gtk [23:26] <Company> it doesn't even work inside windows [23:26] <Company> i'm still fighting [23:26] <ds-work> ugh [23:27] <ds-work> I'm still waiting for the day that I can use apt-get on windows [23:27] <ds-work> I might actually start developing for it then [23:27] <Company> cygwin works kinda like that [23:27] <Company> but im using mingw and not cygwin (stupid me) [23:28] <ds-work> I doubt gstreamer will work under mingw [23:28] <ds-work> without porting [23:28] <Company> why not? [23:28] <ds-work> we use too many posixisms [23:30] <Company> so? [23:30] <Company> mingw wants to be posix [23:32] <Company> yay, the asf spec nukes wordpad [23:36] Action: Company renames the .doc to .txt so mozilla opens it [23:36] <Company> stupid windows [23:38] kmaraas (~km...@14...) joined #gstreamer. [23:45] <Company> cute [23:45] Action: Company admires BBB for writing asfdemux [23:45] <Uraeus> Company: it works? [23:46] <Company> "na, FOURCCs are boring, let's use GUIDs instead. At least they're unreadable" [23:46] <Uraeus> hehe :) [23:46] kwm (~kw...@c7...) left irc: "shutdown -p now" [23:46] <Company> {D6E229D1-35DA-11d1-9034-00A0C90349BE} identifies an ASF file [23:47] <Zeenix> bye guys [23:47] <Company> "This is an ASF!\000" would have been much too readable [23:47] Zeenix (~zak@203.135.60.235) left irc: "REDHAT + SUN + ORACLE + IBM, may God help M$" [23:48] <Uraeus> Company: would be nice if you added a asf pipeline to gst-launch-ext (and checked if the avi one is still correct) [23:48] <Company> Uraeus: filesrc ! spider ! xvideosink basically as we have to typefind inside the asf anyway [23:49] <Uraeus> Company: ok cool :) [23:49] <Uraeus> Company: can we get both sound and video with spider and gst-launch? [23:50] <Company> Uraeus: gst-launch filesrc ! spider ! xvideosink spider0. ! osssink [23:50] <Company> with 0.7 that is [23:50] <Uraeus> cute [23:53] Action: wheels is away: sleep [23:56] <Uraeus> argh, off we go again [23:56] Nick change: Uraeus -> Ura_work [00:00] --- Wed Oct 22 2003 [00:06] dolphy (~do...@21...) joined #gstreamer. [00:06] ct_ (~Chr...@ad...) left irc: "Client exiting" [00:32] <Company> ds-work: how should detecting text/lain work? [00:32] <ain> BBB: ping? [00:32] <Company> text/plain even [00:32] <ds-work> lain? [00:32] <ds-work> ah [00:32] <ain> hmm, gst 0.7.1 announced, but no download locations [00:33] <ds-work> check as many characters as you feel are interesting to make sure they're all utf-8 [00:34] Action: ds-work wonders why swig-1.3.11 on debian acts differently than on mandrake [00:34] <Company> is there a glib function to check valid utf-8ness? [00:36] <ds-work> g_utf8_validate() [00:37] dolphy (~do...@21...) left irc: "Network down, IP Packets delivered via UPS" [00:37] <Company> hm [00:37] <ds-work> however, that will allow lots of control characters (<32) through [00:38] <ain> sonic foundary is now Sony [00:39] <Company> ds-work: is text/plain even utf-8 ? [00:39] <ds-work> it can be [00:39] <ds-work> there's usually an encoding with that [00:39] <ds-work> text/plain; encoding=iso${whatever it is for latin-1} [00:40] BBB (~rbultje@213.160.215.2) left irc: "Client exiting" [00:41] <ds-work> but we shouldn't be attempting to guess charset [00:41] <ds-work> if it's text, it's UTF-8, unless told otherwise [00:45] <Company> don't ask me what festival uses :) [00:47] smoke (sm...@ch...) left irc: "Mind leaves body" [00:51] <ain> yey, Paul Davis has been informed about Marlin now... [00:52] <ain> not sure if thats good or bad :) [00:55] <ds-work> quo est Paul Davis? [00:56] <ain> works on Ardour, the "Big name" in Linux Audio stuff [01:03] sxpert-paris (~sxpert@APh-Aug-105-1-1-228.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:09] pb_ (~pb...@cp...) left irc: "Client exiting" [01:12] <Company> ain: tell us if he says anything negative about gst when commenting about it [01:12] <Company> just so we know where the fud comes from [01:12] <thaytan> *yawn* morning, all [01:13] <ain> Company: will do...I'm thinking he'll comment more that it needs Gnome [01:13] <ain> because he's said in the past all desktop environments are suited to is office suites [01:14] <Company> ardour uses this perverted gtk stuff, doesn't it? [01:14] <ain> yeah [01:14] sxpert-paris (~sxpert@APh-Aug-105-1-3-214.w80-15.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #gstreamer. [01:14] <ain> with an ugly ass theme, and silly pixmap based dial widgets [01:15] <ain> cos dials are really easy to use with a mouse [01:15] <Company> right [01:15] <Company> we'll just let him do audio stuff [01:18] <Company> any objections to renaming audio/x-id3 to application/x-id3? [01:18] <ain> nope [01:21] <Company> ain: could you do that in nautilus media as i don't have it installed? [01:23] <ain> yup...will do [01:23] <ain> let me know when you've changed it [01:23] <Company> 15 seconds, commit pending [01:24] <Company> ain: done [01:24] <Company> hm, i somehow dislike the fact that source code in our repository is not original code [01:25] <Company> and i still dislike the fact that the popularity of gst-plugins gets used to promote other stuff [01:26] Rotty (~an...@ch...) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:27] <ain> why isn't the code in gst-plugins the original stuff? why is work done in nautilus media before gst? [01:27] <ds-work> what (in this case) is not original? [01:28] <ain> media-info [01:28] <Company> didn't thomasvs say that gst-libs/media-info is synced from nautilus-media? [01:28] <ain> its synced "occasionally" [01:28] foser (d0h@131.211.232.225) left irc: "[ I want to believe ]" [01:28] <ain> as in, it wasn't ever synced until I did it a month or so ago [01:28] <ds-work> er, _why_ do we need two copies? [01:29] <ds-work> is media info not in 0.6? [01:29] <Company> because media-info gets wider use when it's in gst-plugins [01:29] <ain> it is, but it seems to be a really old version [01:29] <Company> because people don't want to depend on nautilus-media [01:29] <ds-work> then put it in gst-plugins and remove it from nautilus-media [01:29] <Company> same reason that was used to put gst-gconf into the plugins [01:29] <Company> braindead [01:30] <ain> oh wait... [01:30] <ain> nautilus-media doesn't need to be changed [01:30] <ain> because it doesn't actually work with 0.7 [01:30] <Company> heh [01:34] <Company> should we typedef our data type btw? [01:34] <Company> typedef guint8* gstdata or so? [01:35] Action: ds-work groans [01:35] <Company> i have no clue if we'll use guint8 until all eternity [01:36] <ds-work> for the forseeable future, we will [01:39] ain (~ia...@us...) left irc: "leaving" [01:50] sxpert-paris (~sxpert@APh-Aug-105-1-3-214.w80-15.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:00] sxpert-paris (~sxpert@APh-Aug-105-1-4-141.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #gstreamer. [02:08] ChristianHJW (~chr...@p5...) joined #gstreamer. [02:20] Nick change: TD -> TD[gone] [02:26] Ura_work (~csc...@wp...) left irc: "Client exiting" [02:46] walters (wa...@ve...) joined #gstreamer. |