From: IRC <wt...@us...> - 2003-02-27 06:36:11
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[04:45] <omega> interesting, even the streaming 'clear' in sse is 50% slower than the C version [04:46] <ds-work> needs improvement [04:46] <omega> obviously but how? [04:47] <ds-work> loop unrolling [04:47] <omega> I did that, zero change [04:47] <ds-work> dunno. going home [04:47] <omega> ok, cya [04:48] <omega> well, part of it appears to be that the style of for() he's doing is absolutely horrible as far as generated code [05:01] thomasvs_ (~th...@73...) joined #gstreamer. [05:18] thomasvs (~th...@19...) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:38] Homer (ne...@fl...) joined #gstreamer. [05:40] eladin (~eladin@pD952A026.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:56] eladin (~el...@p5...) joined #gstreamer. [05:56] ChristianHJW (~cwi...@p5...) joined #gstreamer. [06:18] <ds> optimal for() loopage is arch-dependent [06:19] <omega> ok, I found that the test code was wrong, it was testing the null case [06:20] <omega> but now I have another oddity [06:20] <omega> blit_colour C takes 1726 cycles [06:20] <omega> blit_colour MMX takes 629 cycles [06:20] <omega> blit_colour SSE takes 347 cycles [06:20] <omega> now, if I comment out the initial movaps in the *SSE* version, I get: [06:21] <omega> blit_colour C takes 1523 cycles [06:21] <omega> blit_colour MMX takes 441 cycles [06:21] <omega> blit_colour SSE takes 338 cycles [06:21] <omega> note the 50% change in the *MMX* version [06:23] <omega> it changes the alignment of the movq in the mmx version from @1244 to @1248 [06:25] <omega> it's not a runtime thing, it's entirely function of the alignment [06:27] <omega> if I put asm (".align 16") before the loop in the mmx version the sse code no longer impacts it [06:28] <omega> yet another major thing to keep in mind, even in the C versions we might want to force alignment [06:28] <ds> yes [06:28] <ds> alignment causes strange effects on some cpus [06:28] <omega> yeah, like 50% suckage with a 4-byte move [06:30] <omega> adding one nop goes from 440 -> 442 [06:30] <omega> two nops makes it 441 [06:30] <omega> same for 3 [06:30] <omega> and 4, but 5 nops makes it 629 [06:31] <omega> hmm, so another thing hyperopt should mess with [06:31] <omega> randomly adding nops in various places [06:31] <omega> but to be effective that means it has to understand more than just straight-line code [06:32] <ds> is that nops after the align, but before the start of the loop? [06:32] <omega> right [06:32] <omega> __asm__ __volatile__ (".align 16;nop;nop;nop;nop;nop"); [06:33] <ds> cpu can absorb up to 4 nops. not a surprising design [06:33] <omega> but these nops are outside the loop [06:34] <omega> they should not impact the whole kernel that dramatically [06:35] <ds> except for the screwy way that jumps are handles [06:35] <ds> d [06:35] <omega> yeah [06:35] <ds> as i understand it, it has to linearly search through an up to 16 entry table for the start instruction [06:36] <ds> decoded instructions, that is [06:36] <omega> huh? [06:36] <ds> i suppose linearly is wrong. it apparently searches 4 at a time [06:39] <omega> this is the aligned core loop: [06:39] <omega> movq_r2m( mm1, *output ); [06:39] <omega> 1250: 0f 7f 0e movq %mm1,(%esi) [06:39] <omega> output += 8; [06:39] <omega> 1253: 83 c6 08 add $0x8,%esi [06:39] <omega> 1256: 4f dec %edi [06:39] <omega> 1257: 75 f7 jne 1250 <_speedy_blit_colour_packed422_scanline__x86_mmx+0x40> [06:40] <omega> and this is with 5 nops: [06:40] <omega> movq_r2m( mm1, *output ); [06:40] <omega> 1258: 0f 7f 0e movq %mm1,(%esi) [06:40] <omega> output += 8; [06:40] <omega> 125b: 83 c6 08 add $0x8,%esi [06:40] <omega> 125e: 4f dec %edi [06:40] <omega> 125f: 75 f7 jne 1258 <_speedy_blit_colour_packed422_scanline__x86_mmx+0x48> [06:40] <omega> looks like it's spanning a 16-byte icache [06:42] <omega> so, you can put the .align *inside* the loop, and it seems to be smart enough to pad nops before the loop setup [06:43] <omega> hmm, so what's the best way to unroll these loops yet not run over the given width? [06:44] <omega> I really don't like vektor's loop structure [06:45] <ds> if(n&1) [06:45] <ds> { [06:45] <ds> stuff; [06:45] <ds> } [06:45] <ds> if(n&2){ stuff; stuff; } [06:45] <omega> 30% gain from a 4:1 unroll [06:46] <omega> but how to deal with the loop after that? [06:46] <omega> is it better to do width-- or i++ ? [06:46] <ds> depends on the architecture [06:47] <ds> powerpc likes for loops with array[i] [06:47] <ds> i386 likes ptr++ [06:47] <ds> and while(n--) [06:48] <omega> ok, you want to tackle a loop from speedy and see what you can come up with? <g> [06:48] <ds> later, i'm going to a party [06:48] <omega> hah, ok [06:55] thomasvs_ (~th...@73...) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:57] thomasvs_ (~th...@10...) joined #gstreamer. [07:09] omega (~om...@om...) left irc: "rtcw" [07:15] wheels (~sc...@ds...) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:28] md` (~illuminat@pD953334E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gstreamer. 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[10:16] <sxpert_work> yep [10:16] <Zeenix> some libs define their structs inside the c file and not the header, which cause the compiler to give this error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete typ [10:16] <Zeenix> how to avoid this error [10:17] <Zeenix> it doesnt happen if you link and compile at the same time [10:20] <Zeenix> sxpert_work: you said you are arround :) [10:21] ChristianHJW (~cwi...@p5...) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:25] tjansen_ (~tjansen@80.146.166.42) joined #gstreamer. [10:28] <sxpert_work> Zeenix: you must use a typedef construct [10:28] dolphy (~dolphy@213.170.47.89) joined #gstreamer. [10:29] <Zeenix> sxpert_work: the lib header does it [10:30] <Zeenix> sxpert_work: it is declared but not defined in the header [10:32] <dolphy> mo'in mo'in [10:43] Zeenix (~root@203.135.60.23) left irc: "Client Exiting" [10:43] thomasvs_ (~th...@19...) joined #gstreamer. 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[13:44] <thomasvs> ok, will give it a go [13:44] <thomasvs> probably will force me to help fix alsa stuff in gst [13:47] <wingo> that would be nice, to say the least ;) [13:48] <wingo> hey, are you a project admin these days? [13:48] Action: wingo cvsup's gst [13:51] <wingo> so many new toys to play with :) [13:53] <thomasvs> wingo: project admin in what sense ? [13:53] <thomasvs> wingo: so you're back into hacking then [13:53] <thomasvs> ? [13:53] <wingo> i think so, i mean I have this funny wireless internet connection at the school i work at [13:53] <wingo> so i can connect, download things overnight, etc... [13:54] <wingo> project admin in the sourceforge sense [13:54] <wingo> it might be a while before i can get set up well [13:54] <wingo> the debian update i'm doing is now running at a 6 day effor [13:54] <wingo> *effort [14:00] apoc (~ap...@dy...) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:01] <wingo> jesus, when 5K/s is a blazing speed, you know you're in africa [14:01] apoc_ (~ap...@dy...) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:01] ChristianHJW (~cwi...@p5...) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [14:02] <dolphy> wingo: hehe :) [14:04] <wingo> don't get me started, yo ;) [14:06] <dolphy> wingo: how's the weather in Namibia ? [14:08] <wingo> right now it's rather warm, the rainy season is tailing off... maybe 30 deg C and humid... [14:10] thaytan (ja...@ad...) joined #gstreamer. [14:13] <thomasvs> wingo: yeah, I'm project admin then [14:13] <thomasvs> wingo: need anything ? [14:14] <wingo> yeah, could you add me as a developer? i'm not on at the moment. at least for editor work, i'm out-of-the-loop core-wise. [14:15] <wingo> i see avifile is still making fucked up non-releases, some things never change [14:23] <thomasvs> heh :) [14:23] <thomasvs> we've slurped up ffmpeg though [14:23] <thomasvs> account wingo ? [14:25] <wingo> yup, thanks [14:25] <thomasvs> done [14:25] <thomasvs> how come you weren't there anymore in the first place ? [14:25] <wingo> dunno, yo [14:26] <wingo> debian update isestimated now to take eight hours, provided the network and power stay up [14:26] <wingo> of which there is maybe a 50% chance :-P [14:27] <wingo> nice interview on fosdem, by the way ;) [14:29] <thomasvs> heh, thanks [14:29] <thomasvs> the talk was good, got lots of people asking questions [14:30] <thomasvs> and as you've noticed kde is taking an interest [14:30] <wingo> yes, that's quite a development [14:30] <wingo> man. [14:30] <wingo> if gst could become a standard, that would be lovely [14:31] <wingo> it will be that way by default if wtay keeps working like he is :) [14:31] <thomasvs> heh, yeah, he's doing stuff all over the place [14:32] <thomasvs> I hope oslo helps us focus a little too [14:33] <wingo> if by focus you mean inebriate, quite possibly :-P [14:33] <wingo> man, that is one thing that is nice here -- cheap 750 mL beers, "namibia's finest" indeed [14:39] aflinta (af...@at...) joined #gstreamer. [14:49] thaytan (ja...@ad...) got netsplit. [14:49] apoc__ (~ap...@dy...) got netsplit. [14:49] thomasvs (~th...@19...) got netsplit. [14:50] thaytan (ja...@ad...) returned to #gstreamer. [14:50] apoc__ (~ap...@dy...) returned to #gstreamer. [14:50] thomasvs (~th...@19...) returned to #gstreamer. [14:52] <wingo> see you kids later, i'm headed home. [14:52] wingo (~wi...@ma...) left irc: "I like core dumps" [15:02] <sxpert_work> there, brand new breakpads on the car... [15:08] <sxpert_work> damn... 80 EUR for that... [15:45] Marsupilami23 (~Mar...@15...) left irc: "GOD DAMNIT! WHO FARTED!!!" [15:56] tjansen_ (~tjansen@80.146.166.42) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:29] ly (~gr...@cy...) joined #gstreamer. [16:52] <thomasvs> dolphy: there ? [16:52] <dolphy> yup [16:53] <thomasvs> dolphy: is thias around ? I have a small question re: alsa [16:54] dilinger (~dil...@hq...) joined #gstreamer. [17:10] <ly> is there a "gtk-videosink" or something like that? i want to display video from gstreamer in a gnome app, and i have no idea how to do it.... [17:12] <thomasvs> ly: check gst-player [17:13] <ly> thomasvs: ok... [17:23] sjoerd_ (sj...@be...) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:26] sjoerd (sj...@be...) joined #gstreamer. [17:40] sub_pop_culture (~link@129.210.184.56) joined #gstreamer. [18:02] Nick change: sub_pop_culture -> sub_gone_culture [18:10] kz (~Keizi@211.175.165.10) joined #gstreamer. 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[19:20] <thomasvs> foser: gst-launch filesrc location=... ! typefind should work [19:21] chrisime (~chr...@p5...) joined #gstreamer. [19:21] <chrisime> walters, there? [19:22] <foser> thomasvs: did that, but it stopped on too little info or something [19:24] <walters> chrisime: yep [19:24] <chrisime> walters, your fork of rb segv [19:24] <chrisime> dunno why [19:24] <walters> there are still bugs :/ [19:25] <walters> i have gotten that occasionally [19:25] <chrisime> quite surprisingly [19:25] <walters> it is frustrating [19:25] <chrisime> where does it store the config [19:25] <chrisime> i want to delete it [19:25] <walters> chrisime: ~/.gnome2/net-rhythmbox [19:25] <chrisime> it may work again then [19:25] <chrisime> ok [19:25] <chrisime> mom [19:25] <walters> chrisime: it always segvs? [19:27] <chrisime> aah works again [19:27] <chrisime> well i imported a pls [19:27] <chrisime> and then it segv [19:27] <walters> hm [19:27] <chrisime> it doesn't parse pls very well [19:27] <chrisime> i have to edit them [19:27] <chrisime> in an editor [19:27] <walters> yeah, the playlist parser could be improved [19:27] <walters> i wish the format was more standard. [19:27] tjansen (~tj...@p5...) joined #gstreamer. [19:28] <chrisime> walters, check out how shoutcast saves the files [19:28] <chrisime> it's always the same format [19:28] <walters> how shoutcast saves them? [19:28] <walters> do you mean xmms? [19:28] <chrisime> mom [19:29] pb_ (~pb...@ds...) left irc: "bbl" [19:29] <walters> mom? :) [19:29] <chrisime> [playlist] [19:29] <chrisime> numberofentries=1 [19:29] <chrisime> File1=http://server2.somafm.com:8062 [19:29] <chrisime> Title1=SomaFM Presents: cliqhop 128k (Feed #1) [19:29] <chrisime> Length1=-1 [19:29] <chrisime> Version=2 [19:29] <chrisime> like that [19:30] <chrisime> and net rb cannot read that [19:30] <walters> hmm [19:30] <chrisime> it can read http://server2.somafm.com:8062 [19:30] <chrisime> but when there's other stuff in the file it can't do that anymore [19:30] <walters> ah [19:31] Nick change: Anch -> Anch|Away [19:31] <walters> hmm [19:31] <walters> works ok here [19:32] <walters> does it have MS-DOS line endings? [19:32] <walters> can you give me an example of one which doesn't work? [19:37] <chrisime> hmm [19:39] <chrisime> try somafm.com [19:40] wheels (~sc...@ds...) joined #gstreamer. [19:43] <walters> chrisime: imports fine here [19:43] <walters> chrisime: that was one of my test cases when writing the code [19:43] <walters> chrisime: (well, it does create 3 separate stations) [19:43] <walters> chrisime: but there's no really good way to fix that. [19:44] <chrisime> fails here [19:44] <walters> any errors on stderr? [19:45] <chrisime> how do you import it [19:45] <chrisime> i use the browser [19:45] <chrisime> save it [19:45] <walters> Organize->Load playlist [19:45] <chrisime> and say open localtion [19:45] <chrisime> erm [19:45] <chrisime> yes [19:45] <chrisime> that one [19:46] <walters> weird [19:46] <walters> 8debdb6cb9cc31260c520feb1e57d182 /tmp/groovesalad.pls [19:46] <walters> yes? [19:47] <chrisime> i can try it again [19:48] <chrisime> ok works. [19:48] <chrisime> hmmm [19:48] <chrisime> i think it doesn't work too reliable [19:48] <walters> hm [19:48] <chrisime> because i have probs [19:48] <chrisime> somtimes [19:49] <walters> there are definitely still bugs in netrb. [19:49] <walters> i haven't had much trouble with playlist stuff though [19:49] <chrisime> is there any effort to merge it with rb again [19:49] <walters> yes [19:49] <walters> i am working on it [19:49] <walters> very slowly [19:49] <chrisime> fine [19:50] <walters> unfortunately this math class has been killing me... [19:50] <chrisime> walters, sometimes rb segv. when a stream isn't there anymore [19:50] <chrisime> it just segv [19:50] <walters> yeah... [19:50] <chrisime> when you want to cahnge the station [19:50] <walters> i think that might be a gst bug. [19:50] <walters> i am not sure though [19:50] <chrisime> aha [19:51] <chrisime> walters, maths sucks ;) [19:51] Action: chrisime knows [19:51] <walters> heh well normally i like math [19:51] <walters> but this is just much harder than i expected [19:51] <chrisime> which topic [19:51] <walters> combinatorics [19:51] <walters> and graph theory. [19:51] <chrisime> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [19:51] <chrisime> graphs are fun [19:51] <chrisime> but combi [19:51] <chrisime> baeh@ [19:51] <walters> yeah graphs rule [19:51] <chrisime> igitt!!!!! [19:51] <walters> yeah... [19:52] <chrisime> pfui! [19:52] <chrisime> arghs [19:52] <chrisime> i hate that crap [19:52] <chrisime> useless stuff [19:56] thomasvs (~th...@19...) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:57] <taaz> you guys should use your elite graph and math skills to fix spider [19:58] <chrisime> blah [19:58] <chrisime> is that graphs stuff? [19:58] <chrisime> i've never used graphs in a practical way [19:59] <walters> dude...graphs are everywhere. [19:59] <walters> routing tables...'make' (well, trees)...etc [19:59] <walters> ok, gotta run, later all! [19:59] <walters> taaz: don't forget t&s :) [19:59] walters (wa...@ve...) left irc: "displacing" [20:02] dolphy (~dolphy@213.170.47.89) left irc: "Network down, IP Packets delivered via UPS" [20:14] sjoerd_ (sj...@be...) joined #gstreamer. [20:20] ChristianHJW (~cwi...@p5...) joined #gstreamer. [20:28] sjoerd (sj...@be...) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:54] chrisime (~chr...@p5...) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:12] ChrisHJW (~chr...@p5...) joined #gstreamer. [21:12] chillywilly (da...@mk...) left irc: "leaving" [21:19] dolphy (~do...@21...) joined #gstreamer. [21:44] omega (~om...@om...) joined #gstreamer. [21:46] <ds-work> moo [21:46] ^iain^ (~ia...@us...) joined #gstreamer. [21:46] <omega> mu [21:46] Zeenix (~zak@203.135.12.183) joined #gstreamer. [21:46] <^iain^> pi [21:46] <Zeenix> hi [21:47] <ds-work> er, now that we've taken care of roll call... [21:50] <omega> ds-work: the fuzzy sl_arch matching is the next big thing in specialib [21:50] <omega> I'm gonna try to tackle that today [21:51] <Zeenix> coool, Linux Magazine and its sister german magazine are ready to buy an article on video-whale [21:51] <omega> buy? [21:51] <^iain^> wow, I bought a record thats scratched to bits, but seems to skip on the beat perfectly [21:52] <Zeenix> omega: i dont know, thats what Patricia wrote in her letter: [21:52] <Zeenix> > However, before I'll "buy" the article flat, [21:52] <Zeenix> > I'd like to discuss it with my collegues. Hence, please wait for a [21:52] <Zeenix> "Go!" [21:52] <omega> wow [21:52] <taaz> libswf doesn't handle this: http://www.vectorlounge.com/04_amsterdam/jam/wireframe.html please fix. ;) [21:52] <omega> but with the quotes it makes me wonder if she's just overloading the word [21:53] <taaz> so an article implies pictures right? ;) [21:53] Action: Zeenix slaps taaz.. [21:53] <Zeenix> taaz: sure it does [21:58] <Zeenix> do anyone know where is Uraeus today? [22:00] <taaz> so i clicked on the galeon manual menu item and it opened 104 (!) nautilus windows [22:07] Action: Zeenix doesnt really understand what an invoice means, specially this one: [22:07] <Zeenix> http://www.linux-magazine.com/Writers/Invoice [22:08] <omega> Zeenix: when they tell you to, you fill that out and send it to them, it's a bill [22:08] <omega> it asks for a certain $$ from them in exchange for the article, which they will then send you [22:09] <Zeenix> ok [22:09] <taaz> heh.. i like the .tex at 0kB. you think people would realize .tex is a nice compressed format someday... [22:12] ChrisHJW (~chr...@p5...) left irc: [22:13] <Zeenix> taaz: and they want the article in plan ACSII using their tags for special things [22:13] <Zeenix> http://www.linux-magazine.com/Writers/Format [22:13] <taaz> amen [22:17] <taaz> hmm.. their format is weird [22:17] <taaz> is that a custom thing or does anyone else use that? [22:24] <Zeenix> taaz: i think its their custom way not standard.. [22:31] <Zeenix> omega: but refering me to that invoice templates does mean that they are "buying" it? [22:31] <omega> it implies that, yes [22:44] dap_ (~dap@12.164.251.5) joined #gstreamer. [22:50] Nick change: wtay-zZz -> wtay [22:50] <wtay> yo [22:51] <Zeenix> hi [23:15] BBB (~rb...@01...) joined #gstreamer. [23:17] <Zeenix> omega: hmm... i think its not the article they pay for but following their format :) [23:36] Uraeus (~csc...@ru...) joined #gstreamer. [23:37] <Uraeus> yo [23:37] <Zeenix> hi [23:37] Action: Uraeus has had a loooong day at work [23:37] Action: Zeenix forces Uraeus to volunteer on helping him write the article [23:37] <Zeenix> :) [23:38] <Uraeus> what article? [23:39] <Zeenix> Uraeus: the Linux Magazine and its sister Magazine is more than ready to buy the video-wall article [23:39] <Zeenix> Uraeus: it would be actually a modification of the howto we wrote [23:40] <Uraeus> Zeenix: ah, cool, your career as professional IT writer is begining :) [23:41] <Zeenix> Uraeus: hehe, but their format is too hard to follow: [23:41] <Zeenix> http://www.linux-magazine.com/Writers/Format [23:41] <Zeenix> Uraeus: ATM, i am trying to convert the one we have to their format.. [23:41] <Uraeus> ah [23:49] <Uraeus> hmm, the KDE multimedia discussion seems to have died down again, without really being resolved afaict [23:50] <Uraeus> dolphy: around? [23:51] <dolphy> yup [23:52] <dolphy> Uraeus: not for long though [23:53] <Uraeus> dolphy: I think I forgot myself and turned of the computer while you where downloading the other day [23:54] <Uraeus> dolphy: if you want to resume I can keep the computer on tonight [23:59] <dolphy> Uraeus: i have a big part of the file [23:59] <dolphy> Uraeus: and it plays fine on gst-player here [00:00] --- Thu Feb 27 2003 [00:00] <Uraeus> dolphy: no delay in the sound? [00:01] <dolphy> Uraeus: i m using esdsink :0 [00:01] <dolphy> Uraeus: so i always have delay in the sound :) [00:01] <Uraeus> dolphy: well I have like 1-2 second sound lag using osssink [00:05] <dolphy> Uraeus: anyway it's probably a gstreamer bug [00:05] <dolphy> Uraeus: maybe spider built a wrong pipeline [00:06] BBB (~rb...@01...) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:07] <dolphy> k time for bed [00:08] <sxpert> Uraeus: heya [00:08] <dolphy> night [00:08] <Uraeus> hi sxpert [00:08] dolphy (~do...@21...) left irc: "Network down, IP Packets delivered via UPS" [00:09] <Uraeus> ugh, midnight, time for bed, night dudes [00:09] Uraeus (~csc...@ru...) left irc: "Client Exiting" [00:12] apoc_ (~ap...@dy...) joined #gstreamer. [00:22] jmones (~jo...@17...) joined #gstreamer. [00:23] apoc__ (~ap...@dy...) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:47] walters (wa...@ve...) joined #gstreamer. [00:49] chillywilly (da...@mk...) joined #gstreamer. [00:50] <wtay> night [00:50] Nick change: wtay -> wtay-zZz [00:50] <Zeenix> be [00:50] <Zeenix> bye [00:51] <walters> check out me with my GST sticker :) [00:51] <walters> http://web.verbum.org/~walters/files/IMG_2454.JPG [00:52] <^iain^> ewww [00:52] <^iain^> you have one of those "fucking hideous" gnu/linux stickers [00:52] <^iain^> (quote from Miguel) [00:52] <walters> i like it [00:53] <^iain^> GUADEC 1 some fsf guy gave us 2 rolls of them [00:53] <^iain^> and we covered paris in them [00:53] <^iain^> because NO-ONE wanted one :) [00:53] <^iain^> "Dude, I love GNU, and I love Linux, but that thing is fucking hideous" [00:54] <walters> i have at least a hundred [00:54] <walters> i asked the fsf for some to give out [00:54] <walters> and they sent me several rolls [00:55] <^iain^> there was a moped in Paris that had about 100 stuck to it by the end of GUADEC [00:56] Homer (ne...@fl...) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:57] <sxpert> ^iain^: lol [00:59] chillywilly (da...@mk...) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:00] ChrisHJW (~chr...@p5...) joined #gstreamer. [01:03] Nick change: harshy -> harshy|dead [01:05] thomasvs (~th...@10...) joined #gstreamer. [01:10] <Zeenix> hi thomasvs [01:11] <thomasvs> evening [01:11] <Zeenix> thomasvs: would you fix the build system for rtp plugins [01:11] <Zeenix> ? [01:12] <thomasvs> Zeenix: sure, file a bug report telling me what to do [01:12] <Zeenix> thomasvs: why bug report? why not here? [01:13] <omega> Zeenix: tracking [01:13] <thomasvs> Zeenix: because I'm going to bed [01:13] <Zeenix> omega: thomasvs has a better reason :) [01:16] <foser> a lot of mp3s dont get recognized by gst .. where should i start looking for the problem ? [01:17] <thomasvs> foser: are they mp3-inside-wav-containers ? [01:17] Nick change: thomasvs -> thomasvz [01:17] <foser> thomasvz: how would i find out ? [01:18] <thomasvz> foser: run file on it [01:19] <foser> in that case .. nope [01:20] <foser> how can i easily find out what the gst typefind returns ? [01:21] <thomasvz> gstreamer/tools/gst-typefind ? [01:21] <thomasvz> night dudes [01:21] <ds-work> walters: do you use macos at all? [01:21] <walters> nope [01:21] <walters> my computer has actually never booted macos in my presence :) [01:22] <foser> night [01:22] <ds-work> heh, mine either [01:23] <ds-work> walters: I have a MacOS machine here that mysteriously overwrote the hard drive's 0 sector [01:23] <ds-work> walters: you'd _think_ this information would be redundantly stored, but... [01:23] <walters> heh [01:24] <ds-work> and the Linux tools don't create a disk label that MacOS understands [01:24] tjansen (~tj...@p5...) left #gstreamer. [01:35] dap_ (~dap@12.164.251.5) left irc: "Client Exiting" [01:40] <foser> hmm problem seems to be ffmpeg returning video/mpeg for some mp3s.. [01:40] <foser> fixes all my problems with mp3s it seems [01:43] walters (wa...@ve...) left irc: "I like core dumps" [01:44] sxpert (~sx...@sx...) left irc: "I like core dumps" [01:45] sxpert (~sx...@sx...) joined #gstreamer. 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