Re: [Gramps-users] Gramps 2.0.0 - first impressions

[Alex R. <sh...@gr...>]

John,

Thanks for your feedback!

On 05/13/2005 05:05:17 PM, John Stoffel wrote:
>=20
> So far, I've seen the following messages on the console when I started
> up Gramps, without doing anything except acknowledging the initial
> welcome dialog. =20
>=20
>     > gramps
>     Date parser for None not available, using default
>     Date displayer for None not available, using default

This means that the parser and displayer for dates corresponding to
locale were not found. Most likely, your LANG is not set, so no locale
information is available. The fallback is English, which probably works
for you.

>     Successfully imported preferences from the 1.0.x version.
>     /usr/share/gramps/DbPrompter.py:185: GtkWarning: gtk_file_system_unix=
_get_folder: assertion `g_path_is_absolute (filename)' failed
>       choose.set_current_folder(default_dir)

This is strange, but anyway is coming from gnome libs, not us. As long
as you can see all the files you need to see, it should not
present a problem.

> The one about "Date parser for None not ..." is a bit confusing.
> Shouldn't these messages be coming up in a status window or pane in
> the main gramps window?  If someone starts it up from the GUI, they
> won't see this message at all.

They probably don't need to. The fallback is using English parsing
and locale-based display, with fallback again to English. This is
more of a debugging output. We don't want to scare clueless users.

> Edit Person:
>=20
> - when entering a date in the birth field, it would make sense if
>   hitting Tab brought you to the Birth Place: field, instead of to the
>   Death Date: field.  I don't know if this is a simple glade change or
>   not...

Yes, done in CVS, thanks!

> - Would it make sense to have a "plus" icon for adding a new child and
>   relationship to a person?  Thanks to the tool tips, it's obvious
>   which one to use, but not visually, especially since there is a
>   'minus' icon for deleting people.

Both "new" and "select" icons are adding child to the family.
The first one adds it to the database as well, while the second is
adding an existing database person into the relationship. Which
one should have the "plus" sign? Why that one and not the other one?

Btw, "minus" only removes the person from the family, *not* from
the database. So if we were to be consistent, I guess the plus
would need to replace the "select" icon, but this will probably
be more confusing :-)

> - Can the 'minus' icon be grayed out when no child is selected?  It
>   works properly by not doing anything when it's hit and you don't
>   have a child selected.  Actually, this could be extended to all the
>   buttons on the page which aren't usable until you select someone.
>=20

I'll let Don handle this one :-)

> - We've probably gone through this before, but would it be easier to
>   navigate around if when you clicked on any person in the edit view,
>   they became the selected person.  Then you wouldn't need the up/down
>   arrows to move people around.  Adding in a releation ship box
>   between the active person and the spouse/partner/live in person
>   would then be easily done.  Just a thougth...

Are you talking about the Family View?

We will probably need to rework the whole Family view at some point.
Until the complete plan is worked out, it is not worth the pain to
replace one little thing here and another one there. Even though the
Family View is cluttered and complicated, it works in some consistent
way at the moment. Right now, we need to be able to select people
in Family View *without* making them the active persons, e.g. to adjust
relationships while seeing the rest of the family.

Alex

--=20
Alexander Roitman   http://www.gramps-project.org