Re: [Gramps-devel] Gramps 3.4 wiki pages

[Benny M. <ben...@gm...>]

2012/2/28 Tim Lyons <guy...@gm...>:
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> On 28 Feb 2012, at 14:54, Benny Malengier wrote:
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>> Ok,
>>
>> We should decide if we continue with splitting of manual every release.
>> As we know now how a pdf could be made (see
>>
>> http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_manual#GRAMPS_3.3.x_Manual
>> for English/Slovak), perhaps we can switch to a fixed page manual? It
>> would reduce work-load, but does mean help in older versions becomes
>> slowly non-working anymore (in the future).
>>
>> So, do we do a
>> http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_3.4_Wiki_Manual
>> from
>> http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_3.3_Wiki_Manual
>>
>> or do we do a
>> http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_Wiki_Manual
>> instead, which then remains current with future versions?
>>
>> Let's decide that, and then ask Nick to proceed creating the pages.
>> I would favour to move to 'Gramps_Wiki_Manual', and then when 3.5 or
>> 4.0 comes out to push an update to 3.4 to use oldid to point into the
>> history for all pages, like this:
>>
>>
>> http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_3.3_Wiki_Manual_-_Preface&oldid=32078
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>
> I don't see how that enables access to other pages of the manual at the old
> version.

The oldid=32078 points to a timestamp, so you obtain the version of
the manual at a certain timepoint.
Like that, edit of old version automatically stops, because it is a
version of the history of the current page at a specific time point.

> Having a single version also makes it difficult to do updates for a new
> feature, because they all have to be applied (in principle) on the day the
> new version of Gramps comes out. So I'm not sure how it reduced workload, as
> presumably people stop updating old versions of the manual as soon as the
> new version comes out. (I suppose that means you might as well remove
> versions of the manual before 3.3 now).

No, I don't mean that. Already in the past we started updating wiki
pages with sections starting with: coming in the next version, or
something like that. Then when new wiki is split of, the start
sentence is deleted. You can do that also now  already, before we have
3.4.

The work is mainly Nick that needs to copy/change for the new manual,
then checking by manual maintainers if there are no problems with
internal links and images, and correct that. In light of the amount of
language translations of the wiki, having a fixed version with working
links is advantageous.

A better way might be to have a Gramps_Wiki_Manual, and then splitting
off 3.4 when 3.5 is going to be released.

This is just a suggestion by me, I'm really hoping for input of the
current manual writers what they think about this.

Benny
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>>
>> Benny
>>
>> 2012/2/28 Tim Lyons <guy...@gm...>:
>>>
>>> When will the wiki pages (User Manual, Addons etc.) for the 3.4
>>> version be created?
>>>
>>> I appreciate that linking these to the wiki Main Page will only occur
>>> when Gramps 3.4 is released, but there are changes for 3.4 that I
>>> should like to make a start on.
>>>
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