Re: [Gramps-devel] Wikispaces Message: Major BetterGEDCOM Announcement

[Benny M. <ben...@gm...>]

2012/2/2 Doug Blank <dou...@gm...>:
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 2:10 PM, John Ralls <jr...@ce...> wrote:
>>
>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 8:24 AM, John Ralls wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 2:06 AM, Benny Malengier wrote:
>>>
>>>> 2012/2/2 Rob Healey <rob...@gm...>:
>>>>> Greetings:
>>>>>
>>>>> Based upon the information that Doug has given to us in this email, would it
>>>>> be wise and prudent to postpone the release of Gramps-3.4.0 so that this
>>>>> BetterGEDCOM or GedcomX can be stabilized and incorporated into Gramps???
>>>>
>>>> No.
>>>> Standards don't go that fast.
>>>
>>> And that's when they're actual standards. There's no evidence that anyone other than the BetterGEDCOM talking shop folks are interested in "FHISO". Unless FamilySearch, Ancestry, brightsolid, and other large vendors get on board it's going nowhere. The first GedcomX presentation is in 3 hours, and I'll report on who's involved in it afterwards - but the same applies there: Unless the big genealogy vendors get involved it's going nowhere.
>>>
>>> No need to get excited about this anytime soon.
>>
>> The first GedcomX session finished. This is the non-technical, what they're trying to accomplish session.
>>
>> It's the Family Search official successor to GEDCOM, with an FS Marketing Dept. Project manager.
>>
>> First off, four websites with details:
>> http://gedcomx.net
>> http://gedcomx.org
>> http://github.com/FamilySearch/gedcomx
>> https://gedcom.ci.cloudbees.com
>>
>> Second, Hattie emphasized that this is still somewhat preliminary. They have working code and FS is using some of it in their backends, but there are still plenty of bits that aren't fully realized.
>>
>> You can get the technical details far better from those websites than from anything I could summarize from the lecture.
>>
>> One other thing: Several users stood up at the end and said how much they want this function in their software.
>
> Thanks John!
>
> Here is the first sighting I have seen of an actual file format:
>
> http://www.gedcomx.org/File-Format.html
>
> Looks interesting!

Hmm,

That 'persistentId' does not look very nice.
Also, embedded binary data of pictures? Why not a zip filetype? Do we
really want the binary data mixed in?

The id's they give do seem long enough,
id="37d25f3d-1323-4686-9913-c336b27d8d16" :-D

For the relationship:
<relationship id="31a945bc-3185-41d6-b90d-ba035a13fb6f" type="gx:Couple"
                  xmlns="http://gedcomx.org/conclusion/v1"
                  xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#"
                  xmlns:gx="http://gedcomx.org/">
    <!-- relationship coupling Alma and Marie -->
    <person1 rdf:resource="cid:32da4363-0c38-4d65-92dc-f5209d35f91b"/>
    <person2 rdf:resource="cid:37d25f3d-1323-4686-9913-c336b27d8d16"/>
</relationship>

Ok, it should not be too difficult to produce something like that, but
we need good info:

The id, cid...., can we generate this from gramps handle?

Quite some bloat also in that xml format stuf. Perhaps only for the example.

I would think that quite some work remains.

Benny

>
> -Doug
>
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>>
>>
>>
>>
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