Re: [Gramps-devel] Gramps-devel :: non human

[Nick H. <nic...@ho...>]

On 30/08/11 22:58, Gary Fay wrote:
> Is it possible to use GRAMPS for non humans. Females repductive at 6 
> months- polygamy and other violations of human norms?

People have used Gramps for animal pedigrees:

http://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Animal_pedigree


>
> If not how hard would it be to rip out any validation?

Some of the validation is configurable in the preferences:

Edit -> Preferences -> Dates


>
> Looked ay python but never ...dove in ...

Python is easy to learn, especially if you have previous programming 
experience.

You can also write your own translations.

What non-humans are you thinking of using Gramps with?


Nick.


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>     Message: 1
>     Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:12:17 +0200
>     From: Benny Malengier
>     Subject: Re: [Gramps-devel] Help requested on database upgrade please
>     To: Tim Lyons
>     Cc: Gramps Development List ,
>     Gerald Britton
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>     2011/8/29 Tim Lyons
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>     > On 23 Aug 2011, at 21:29, Benny Malengier wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > 2011/8/23 Tim Lyons
>     >
>     >
>     >> you can delete the table and recreate it with the function as
>     used in the
>     > tool with that name. That tool is a good way to test your code.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Could someone please explain the difference between Tools ->
>     Family Tree
>     > Repair -> Rebuild Reference Maps and Rebuild Secondary Indices.
>     >
>     > I understand that the first calls write.py reindex_reference_map
>     and the
>     > second calls rebuild_secondary. I can see that reindex_reference_map
>     > rebuilds the reference maps by going through each primary
>     object, and
>     > calling update_reference_map, but what exactly does
>     rebuild_secondary do?
>     >
>
>     Without looking at the code, secondary tables are index tables of
>     bsddb
>     which bsddb can construct automatically, eg our surname table for
>     sorting.
>
>     Also, in write.py I have had to call self.__connect_secondary() and
>     > self.__open_undodb() before doing the gramps_upgrade_16. Would I
>     have to do
>     > that if I used the reindex_reference_map function?
>     >
>
>     Large updates are better without the secondary tables connected,
>     as it slows
>     down the upgrade. Then, when finished, you connect them or have bsddb
>     rebuild them.
>     I would have to dive into the code to help more.
>
>     Benny
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>     Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 03:39:35 -0700
>     From: Rob Healey
>     Subject: [Gramps-devel] media ref list???
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>     Greetings:
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>     If I add, family.get_media_list, in NarrativeWeb, I get a list of
>     media
>     refebces...
>
>     How can I get the same result, but for the report.database instead...
>
>     for instance something like, db.get_medaia_ref_list()???
>
>     Can someone help me???
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>     -- 
>     Sincerely yours,
>     Rob G. Healey
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>     Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:09:34 +0100
>     From: Tim Lyons
>     Subject: [Gramps-devel] Questions about test data
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>     I notice that there are two different gramps data files in the svn
>     repository under example, example.gramps and data.gramps. However,
>     only data.gramps is put into the tar file, so only this is really
>     accessible to the users.
>
>     (1) Why are there two different files?
>
>     (2) What is the licensing associated with the files? Do any of them
>     contain real, or private, data?
>
>     (3) Is it intended that example.gramps should be used as a general
>     test file for gramps development (obviously most bug fixes or
>     enhancements will need specific test data, but I am just talking
>     about
>     a general confidence test database).
>
>     (4) Why are both files stored as gramps files with the media stored
>     separately - I find I have to connect each media object every time I
>     import the files. Wouldn't it be better to store the data with the
>     media? (This is particularly a problem for users who might try to
>     import data.gramps)
>
>     (5) My main question! I would like to have an example person (and
>     connected objects) that contains at least one of every possible data
>     element. I see that the home person Lewis Anderson Garner has many
>     different data elements, but not all. Also I have seen people suggest
>     use of him to test various reports. So, would you prefer:
>     (a) That I enhance Lewis Anderson Garner (and associated objects like
>     his events) so that every possible element is represented.
>     (b) that I enhance some other person in example.gramps
>     (c) that I just create some other private test file?
>
>     Thanks.
>
>
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>     Message: 4
>     Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:46:44 +0100
>     From: Nick Hall
>     Subject: Re: [Gramps-devel] media ref list???
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>     On 30/08/11 11:39, Rob Healey wrote:
>     > Greetings:
>     >
>     > If I add, family.get_media_list, in NarrativeWeb, I get a list of
>     > media refebces...
>     >
>     > How can I get the same result, but for the report.database
>     instead...
>     >
>     > for instance something like, db.get_medaia_ref_list()???
>
>     To get all media objects in the database use:
>
>     db.get_media_object_handles()
>
>     If you want to find all media reference objects then try looping
>     through
>     people, familes, events, sources and places. Then you can call
>     obj.get_media_list() for each object.
>
>     Nick.
>
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>     >
>     > Can someone help me???
>     >
>     > --
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>     > Rob G. Healey
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>     From: jerome
>     Subject: [Gramps-devel] Re : Questions about test data
>     To: Gramps Development List , Tim
>     Lyons
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>     Hello,
>
>
>     I can try to answer on some of your questions.
>     Some months ago, I noted that some data were missing on our
>     samples according new data scheme (DTD). I started to list them,
>     then to update them...
>
>     http://www.gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=4220
>
>     There is no 'real' data (private, existing) and content of
>     data.gramps is also used for generating sample.ged.
>
>     The problem is to follow changes because import/export Gramps XML
>     is not idempotent.
>
>     http://www.gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=4365
>
>     So, I made most updates on example.gramps, which is not compressed
>     and was modified for properly testing last features on previous
>     stable releases (markup on note, dates, etc ...).
>
>     http://www.gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=4220#c15648
>
>     I was not confortable for adding some 'private joke' or others
>     fake data, but I suppose I did it right and this help us to make
>     some tests, which were reported and fixed before stable release. :)
>     Today, it seems that only a content/sample for locality/street &
>     address fields is missing on example.gramps.
>
>     So, I am not certain:
>
>     > (1) Why are there two different files?
>
>     'data.gramps' is the first generated sample
>     http://gramps.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/gramps/branches/maintenance/gramps10/example/gramps/
>
>     It was used when Gramps was reading Gramps XML file (before
>     current DB backend < 2.0). With limited size in memory and basic
>     content.
>
>     > (2) What is the licensing associated with the files? Do any
>     > of them
>     > contain real, or private, data?
>
>     I do not think anyone has written real data.
>     There is maybe records noted private, but only as sample.
>
>     > (3) Is it intended that example.gramps should be used as a
>     > general
>     > test file for gramps development (obviously most bug fixes
>     > or
>     > enhancements will need specific test data, but I am just
>     > talking about
>     > a general confidence test database).
>
>     Yes, example.gramps should be used for that.
>
>     Note, as said above to import then export the content of
>     example.gramps will also rebuild 'order' because the handle key is
>     a bsddb hash thus stored randomly on current BD (see others
>     discussions on mailing list).
>     It is harder to see changes between two Gramps XML files after an
>     import!
>
>     > (4) Why are both files stored as gramps files with the
>     > media stored
>     > separately - I find I have to connect each media object
>     > every time I
>     > import the files. Wouldn't it be better to store the data
>     > with the
>     > media? (This is particularly a problem for users who might
>     > try to
>     > import data.gramps)
>
>     I think it is related to the model of sample.
>     We have the choice for the best way for this feature: to
>     illustrate and test relative media path preferences and media
>     objects tools or a global compressed archives with a copy of our
>     media ?
>
>     > (5) My main question! I would like to have an example
>     > person (and
>     > connected objects) that contains at least one of every
>     > possible data
>     > element. I see that the home person Lewis Anderson Garner
>     > has many
>     > different data elements, but not all.
>
>     Yes, I do not completed all fields (ex: association with one
>     direction)
>     http://www.gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=4335
>
>     > (a) That I enhance Lewis Anderson Garner (and associated
>     > objects like
>     > his events) so that every possible element is represented.
>     > (b) that I enhance some other person in example.gramps
>     > (c) that I just create some other private test file?
>
>     Feel free to improve example.gramps.
>     I also added some data on others persons (ex: handling spanish
>     names, which sounds strange for Lewis Anderson Garner; or
>     duplicated keys with different values on two different persons,
>     etc ...)
>
>
>     J?r?me
>
>     --- En date de?: Mar 30.8.11, Tim Lyons a ?crit?:
>
>     > De: Tim Lyons
>     > Objet: [Gramps-devel] Questions about test data
>     > ?: "Gramps Development List"
>     > Date: Mardi 30 ao?t 2011, 14h09
>     > I notice that there are two different
>     > gramps data files in the svn?
>     > repository under example, example.gramps and data.gramps.
>     > However,?
>     > only data.gramps is put into the tar file, so only this is
>     > really?
>     > accessible to the users.
>     >
>     > (1) Why are there two different files?
>     >
>     > (2) What is the licensing associated with the files? Do any
>     > of them?
>     > contain real, or private, data?
>     >
>     > (3) Is it intended that example.gramps should be used as a
>     > general?
>     > test file for gramps development (obviously most bug fixes
>     > or?
>     > enhancements will need specific test data, but I am just
>     > talking about?
>     > a general confidence test database).
>     >
>     > (4) Why are both files stored as gramps files with the
>     > media stored?
>     > separately - I find I have to connect each media object
>     > every time I?
>     > import the files. Wouldn't it be better to store the data
>     > with the?
>     > media? (This is particularly a problem for users who might
>     > try to?
>     > import data.gramps)
>     >
>     > (5) My main question! I would like to have an example
>     > person (and?
>     > connected objects) that contains at least one of every
>     > possible data?
>     > element. I see that the home person Lewis Anderson Garner
>     > has many?
>     > different data elements, but not all. Also I have seen
>     > people suggest?
>     > use of him to test various reports. So, would you prefer:
>     > (a) That I enhance Lewis Anderson Garner (and associated
>     > objects like?
>     > his events) so that every possible element is represented.
>     > (b) that I enhance some other person in example.gramps
>     > (c) that I just create some other private test file?
>     >
>     > Thanks.
>     >
>     > ?
>     >
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