From: Billie W. <bil...@sw...> - 2011-08-02 15:34:41
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In the Anglican Tradition an infant is baptized soon after birth. This isn't a decision of the infant. At someplace around the age of fifteen, sooner or later for some, the person goes through "Confirmation". That is a decision of the individual and is when they officially join the church. Confirmation would correspond with Baptism in many other traditions. On 08/02/2011 08:56 AM, Peter Kidd wrote: > [Newbie here -- apologies if I am misunderstanding.] > > For what it's worth, the relevant Oxford English Dictionary definitions are: > "The action or ceremony of baptizing, baptism", > and > "The action or ceremony of baptizing; immersion of a person in water, > or ap >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Got Input? ? Slashdot Needs You. >>>> Take our quick survey online. ?Come on, we don't ask for help often. >>>> Plus, you'll get a chance to win $100 to spend on ThinkGeek. >>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/slashdot-survey >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Gramps-users mailing list >>>> Gra...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-usersplication of water by pouring or sprinkling, as a religious rite, > symbolical of moral or spiritual purification or regeneration, and, as > a Christian ordinance, betokening initiation into the Church", > respectively. > > In other words, the terms are interchangeable (this is the explicit > opinion of the Church of England: see > http://www.churchofengland.org/weddings-baptisms-funerals/baptism-confirmation/baptism/frequently-asked-questions.aspx), > but for the purposes of data integrity in GRAMPS it is probably better > to stick to one term or the other. (I think that the two terms were > included in the GEDCOM standard because the designers wanted to allow > users to use whichever term they prefer.) > > Personally, I was baptised as an infant (this is therefore an accurate > historical fact), but I am not a Christian so it seems > misleading/imprecise to say that I have been Christened. > > Peter > > >> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 15:25:18 +0200 >> From: Rogier Visser<rog...@gm...> >> Subject: Re: [Gramps-users] Baptism vs. Christening >> To: gra...@li... >> Message-ID: >> <CAE...@ma...> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> Wouldn't this suggest that in the various reports, ages of christened >> individuals at death should be given as "at least xx years old"? >> In Detailed Ancestors Report, christened individuals without >> birth-event (because it is unknown) do not get 'at-least' ages >> printed, which I think, would be a good thing to do. >> >> >> >> On 1 August 2011 09:23, Nicholas Robinson<np...@bo...> wrote: >>> On Mon, 2011-08-01 at 09:38 +1000, Stephen George wrote: >>>> On 1/08/2011 4:01 AM, Marc-Andre Hermanns wrote: >>>>> Dear all, >>>>> >>>>> I am a German GRAMPS user, and was wondering whether there is a >>>>> difference between "Baptism" and "Christening". Both Events are >>>>> possible, and I was wondering, whether I am recording everything correctly. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Marc-Andre >>>>> >>>> >>>> ?From my point of view, I always considered a Christening to be of an >>>> baby (who cannot make up own mind), where the parents promise to bring >>>> up the child following Gods ways. >>>> >>>> A Baptism was once a person become old enough to make up their own mind >>>> to follow Christ they would get baptized as a public statement of >>>> commitment and to show their faith. >>>> >>>> So in one case (Christening ) the parents offer the child to God, in the >>>> other case (Baptism) a person offers themselves to God. >>>> >>>> So in my eyes they are two very different things. Buts that's just one >>>> point of view. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Steve >>> >>> For what it's worth. Steve has exactly described what I have always >>> understood. >>> >>> Nick -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb." - Benjamin Franklin - _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ |