Re: [Gramps-users] Sources in GRAMPS

[Simon C. <scr...@ne...>]

Nick,

[snip]

>> [SOURCE OBJECT]
>> -> NOTE TAB: URL to SPECIFIC PAGE inserted in body of note.
>> This becomes a hyperlink. It would be preferable if an
>> Internet Tab similar to what is available in the Repository
>> Section.

> Does this note contain all the links for all the events that referenced
> the source, or do you have one note per reference?
>
> I assume the link is a duplicate of the entry in the source reference
> object of the event (above).

There is a 1:1 relationship between an EVENT OBJECT and SOURCE OBJECT. 
That is the SOURCE is the evidence supporting an EVENT. It is possible 
to have multiple documents supporting data stored in an EVENT and I 
would have separate SOURCE OBJECTS  for each. In the absence of an 
Internet Tab for Sources, this technique does generate a NOTE for each 
SOURCE OBJECT.

For example,

For an immigration event I night have my parents documents, my aunts 
photographs, the Australian Government Records and Ship Log. Each would 
have a separate SOURCE OBJECT with associated MEDIA OBJECT referenced in 
the Gallery Tab. Each SOURCE OBJECT would also be linked to a REPOSITORY.

To give you an even more specific example, I can see my family on the 
the Immigration Records recorded on the National Archives of Australia 
(NAoA) Database.

PERSON OBJECT (many, one per family member)

EVENT OBJECT (shared): Immigration

SOURCE OBJECT (1:1 with EVENT OBJECT): Record on NAoA Database

NOTE (1:1 with SOURCE OBJECT): URL to page on the NAoA database.

GALLERY OBJECT (1:1 with SOURCE OBJECT): PDF file showing page printed 
from NAoA database.

REPOSITORY OBJECT (1:1 with SOURCE OBJECT, although in reverse a 
repository would have many source documents referenced): The URL stored 
inthis object is just the home page for the NAoA database not the 
specific page showing y family records.

>> -> GALLERY TAB: Link to [Media Object] pointing to stored copy of
>> Internet document in MediaObjects4SourceGallery subdirectory.
>
> This will contain a large number of images for large sources. Have you
> seen the GEPS for large sources?
>
> http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=GEPS_023:_Storing_data_from_large_sources

Interesting.

The first option differs from my paradigm in that the author is treating 
the source in the same way as I am treating the repository, whereas in 
the second option they introduce a non-existent 'Citation Object' to 
site between the event and source (this is comparable to my paradigm 
except the my 'source' is the 'citation' object and my 'repository' is 
their 'source' object.

I suppose the point here is that GRAMPS lacks at the moment the 
resolution to store detailed citation data.

Something else I am not clear about is, if the source points to the NAoA 
Database and the Citation Points to the Item Number (essentially a 
record displayed on the page) what is the repository? The Internet? This 
would be the equivalent object to a library or something wouldn't it?

>> -> REPOSITORY TAB: Link to [Repository Object] for master database
>> e.g. National Archives of Australia Home Page) that the data was
>> extracted from.
>>
>> [REPOSITORY OBJECT]
>> -> INTERNET TAB: Add URL to 'Home Page' of repository.
>>
>> NOTE: Although I have stored links to the main pages of commonly
>> accessed Internet Resources on my computer, this information can
>> easily be stored in the 'Repository Section' of Gramps. You can add
>> the websites home page in the 'Internet Tab' and this appears in
>> the summary page. My only gripe is that the displayed link is not
>> active. It would be valuable if the Home URL link could be clicked,
>> essentially eliminating the need for storing Internet links on your
>> computer.
>
> In Gramps 3.3, we are introducing a bottombar which will contain details
> of the active objects selected in views.
>
> In the repositories view, I was considering a details page that would
> display the address, web page and email address. We could make the
> internet links clickable.

Ideally I would like to see an 'Internet Tab' for all objects. At 
present this is available only for some objects. With this each object 
editor should have the ability to click these URL links to open the 
source in a browser.

I know this sounds excessive but my research, both genealogical and 
other, has shown me that a lot of information that is contained in 
traditional resources (book in library) are being duplicated on the web. 
Same resource, just another format. I find most research tools (e.g. 
bibliographic databases like Zotero) have problems with this paradigm 
(i.e. multiple formats of a particular document).

An example would be a historical book that has been scanned and released 
on the Internet, A family portrait that someone has posted on their 
Facebook Page and appears in other peoples online 'family histories'. 
Where possible I like to cite the original then supply a URL to 
alternative sources in different formats.

I am finding the same problem with genealogical research, especially as 
people migrate away from going to the state library to searching online 
databases.

Cheers Simon