From: Doug B. <dou...@gm...> - 2011-01-12 13:18:43
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On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 3:36 AM, Benny Malengier <ben...@gm...> wrote: > Looks nice. I can see people really liking this. > > Some comments: > > 1/ Users don't discover functionality easily. So I suggest that we all try > this a bit and in a month for 3.3 to query if we should have the bottom bar > visible by default on fresh install, and if so what gramplets. Good idea. I think some (or most) views are better with some specific gramplets. We can get some user input on this too, Eg, what functionality/data do you want to see on each view? > 2/ Write a quick blog post of this work. Some users do react to that. > > 3/ We must make it clear to users that they still need to double click or > press edit button on the listview to actually change a person. That is, the > editors are not in the gramplets (although gramplets can be written for it, > I would not experiment with that for 3.3) > > 4/ Passing key presses: When I select an attribute in Attributes bottombar, > then ctrl+ins does still do insert person. That is good. However, ctrl+enter > or enter does not edit the current person. We need a keypress to edit person > when things are selected on the gramplet > > 5/ How to know the name of the gramplet in the bottombar. Eg after remove, > you want to add it again, but don't know the name. Perhaps the tooltip on > the tab to contain the name of the gramplet? That confused me too at first as there is no way to tell currently which gramplets are showing. The gramplet pane has support too to undelete a deleted gramplet. This is nice as some gramplets have data in them that would be bad if you couldn't get it back. Perhaps we can have an undo button or menu option for this. > 6/ In Attributes, tooltip on an entry says: Drag Properties Button to move > and click it for setup. > I don't understand this tooltip. This is only for the gramplet grid view, where gramplets can be moved. Setup is now in config. > 7/ Double click on attribute gives a quick-view. I suppose this is gramplet > functionality? If so, having this action in a context menu too would be > nice. Other quickviews can be added then, eg: sources of attribute, ... . > Most important though: Users will expect double click to allow edit of the > person attribute! How can we offer this? Context menu with 'Edit Attribute', > that opens the person editor and the attribute editor of the correct > attribute? This is a usability concept we should have a clear answer to. See > 3/ and 4/ above. I'll work on the unified context menu infrastructure, as mentioned a week or two ago. -Doug > That's it for now. > > Benny > > > 2011/1/11 Nick Hall <nic...@ho...> >> >> Devs, >> >> I have just committed a change which adds a new bottombar to Gramps. >> >> You can enable the bottom bar from the menu: View -> Bottombar. >> >> Each tab contains one gramplet. You can re-order them by drag-and-drop. >> >> There are three buttons on the right hand side of the bottombar. Use >> these to add or remove gramplets and also to close the bottombar. >> >> I have removed the normal gramplet controls. This creates more space >> and presents a cleaner interface to the user. The minimise button is >> not applicable for the bottom bar, and drag-and-drop functionality has >> moved to the tab. I have not implemented detaching of gramplets yet, >> but this could be achieved by dragging the tab out of the notebook (this >> is standard gtk functionality). >> >> I have written four example bottombar gramplets for the Person Views: >> >> 1. Details: This combines the primary picture, with parents, events and >> attributes to create a summary view for a person. >> >> 2. Gallery: This displays the pictures of a person in a scrollable >> list. Double-click to view the image with the default viewer application. >> >> 3. Residence: An example displaying a single event type. Double-click >> to edit an event. >> >> 4. Attributes: Just a GUI version of the existing Attributes gramplet. >> Double-click for the quick report. >> >> I was trying to make the gramplets look like they are part of core >> Gramps. Similar functionality is available in the person editor, but >> the bottom bar gramplets are intended to be optimised for viewing the >> data rather than editing it. >> >> I look forward to your feedback. >> >> Regards, >> >> >> Nick. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any >> company >> that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. 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