Re: [Gramps-devel] visually impaired sheets

[Rob H. <rob...@gm...>]

Dear Benny:

Javascript is not my thing, but I have found several examples on the
internet that might help us or even work.

Does anyone else know javascript to be able to write a javascript css
switcher for us here?

Sincerely
Rob



On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:46 PM, Benny Malengier <ben...@gm...>
wrote:

> 2008/5/10 Jason Simanek <jsi...@gm...>:
>
>> Hey Rob,
>>
>> On Fri, 2008-05-09 at 14:42 -0700, Rob Healey wrote:
>> > I am truely sorry that I have created such an argument in wanting to
>> > add stylesheets of my own modification to GRAMPS! I didn't think the
>> > idea would create such a fight, and hurt feelings! I can see how
>> > passionate Jason is about this subject.....
>>
>> I'm sorry if I came off as defensive. I am concerned about creating the
>> best product and making the best decisions. The only way to accomplish
>> those goals in a team environment is discuss and critique the many
>> different ideas that are put on the table.
>
>
> Yes, I did not have the impression there was any fighting or bad feelings.
> Just discussion on how best to do this.
> Last time I checked the bug report, there was no actual code, only png
> images. So Rob, if you have code and patches, please, upload them, so others
> can review and understand your ideas.
>
> As to ownership, as Jason did such a good job with the 3.0 stylesheets, it
> would be best for us if he takes final decisions on how the style of
> narrative web evolves. Style is something many people have very different
> ideas about. We cannot have an implementation of all those, somebody needs
> to maintain the overview and keep things consistent towards the user.
>
> So Rob, please, keep bugging us with your ideas and code, and you'll see
> parts of that being accepted into GRAMPS.
>
> Benny
>
>
>>
>> In critique it is important to tell the others involved what you think
>> in clear, explicit language. We can't do this right if we're trying to
>> be polite. If we're going to do something that I don't exactly agree
>> with, I need to be convinced that it is something valuable. I will try
>> to convince you that my way is better.
>>
>> Putting an idea through a critique by a capable group (like the folks
>> here at Gramps) can improve the idea. You have to be careful not to take
>> criticism of your idea as criticism of yourself.
>>
>> Earlier this week I finally came around to your idea for the
>> JavaScript-based style switcher and I have contributed some mock-ups of
>> how to do it. With that I'm a little surprised to read this email. I
>> thought we were just starting to make some progress!
>>
>> > I will donate the code, that is already working, if he is still
>> > willing to do the extra sheets for high and reverse contrast
>> > stylesheets. I already have code in place in NarrativeWeb...
>> > I think I have all of the ideas in the "Perfect World" and in "Our
>> > World" already done on my own. I went out to the internet to figure
>> > how to link all the extra sheets as well as the original 8 that Jason
>> > did.............
>>
>> Does that mean you have the JavaScript written as well?
>>
>> > I am not upset or angry in doing this, and being willing to give it
>> > back to Jason!
>>
>> By myself, I don't own anything here. By definition everyone involved
>> with this project needs to take ownership. We have to honestly critique
>> ideas and, because so many people are involved with the project that
>> will come and go over time, it's important that we define and focus our
>> goals and direction.
>> >
>> > Jason, I apologize for stepping on your toes.... You have been so
>> > willing to help me with my problems in getting my sheets to work, and
>> > I do not wish to anger you over it...
>>
>> I am not a programmer by trade, but in the graphic design industry
>> honest opinion and criticism is important. The reality is that few
>> designers take or give criticism well. Is it the case that programmers
>> don't have to deal with the same issues? Perhaps there isn't much room
>> for your opinion in programming? That would explain all of this open
>> source stuff! ;)
>>
>> Rob, don't apologize. Please don't feel like your ideas are unwelcome.
>> We are all trying to create the best product that we can. I like to
>> think that we're all teaching and learning something from each other.
>> You've brought a lot of great ideas to the table and definitely
>> kick-started my interest in the Web Calendar plugin.
>>
>> I am looking forward to implementing the style switcher as well as the
>> high-contrast stylesheets.
>>
>> -Jason
>>
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