From: Raphael A. <rap...@gm...> - 2008-02-19 13:59:15
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On Feb 19, 2008 2:42 PM, Benny Malengier <ben...@gm...> wrote: > > > 2008/2/19, Raphael Ackermann <rap...@gm...>: > > > In the Places View pressing INSERT does not do anything at all. Are > > you saying that using INSERT for adding a new place would have side > > effects? I don't get how the "first tab is text" can have an influence > > on this. And I have +(Add) buttons in the Place View. > > You are starting to mix things up. We have views, where add is done by > CTRL+INSERT. This is needed because if you place cursor on the filter > textentry, INSERT toggles overwrite. Didn't know such a thing was possible :-) > > > > I just checked and CTRL+INSERT seems to invoke Add in most editors. > > no, you mean in most views I checked again. CTRL+INSERT works fine in the editors. Not the views. E.g. open a person editor, go to the source tab and press CTRL+ENTER. You'll get a new Source Reference Editor. > > Which means I can use CTRl+INSERT throughout GRAMPS when I want to add > > a new record. I am happy with that. > > But on a tab in an editor which is a list, INSERT does the trick of adding > at the moment. see above. CTRL+INSERT works as well! > > > http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/input-keyboard.html.en#choosing-access-keys > > says > > "If duplication of access keys in a window is unavoidable, you should > > still refrain from duplicating the access keys for any of these > > buttons that appear in the same window: OK, Cancel, Close, Apply or > > Help." > > Ok, I updated > http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Translating_GRAMPS#Translating_mnemonics thanks. > > > > > > > * ALT+P, ALT+N don't work at the moment for navigation between views, > > > > unless the sidebar is used! Could this be made to work the same > > > > regardless of whether the sidebar is used or not. I find this > > > > confusing. > > > > > > file a bug please. The view must pass a key press to the notebook under > it > > > > See also http://bugs.gramps-project.org/view.php?id=1559 for some more > > accelerator keys discussion. > > Ok, changed stuff, close the item if you think all ok > Works fine for me. CTRL+N/P for next previous view and ALT+LEFT/RIGHT for navigation backwards and forwards. > > > > > > > > * ALT+S for Scratchpad (now Clipboard) could probably be change to > > > > something else. > > > > > > Indeed, I made it an accellerator now CTRL+B. > > > If somebody opposes that, do react. > > > > HIG says: > > > > "Standard GNOME application shortcut keys and access keys - Bookmarks menu > > Function Shortcut Description > > Add Bookmark Ctrl+D Add a bookmark for the current location > > Edit Bookmarks... Ctrl+B (see note below) Open a window in > which the > > user can edit and organise saved bookmarks > > Bold and Edit Bookmarks > > > > If your application requires both Format ▸ Bold and Bookmarks ▸ Edit > > Bookmarks... menu items, use Shift+Ctrl+D as the shortcut for Edit > > Bookmarks. > > " > > > > I am not too fussed about this, but for the Organize Bookmarks I would > > either use CTRL+B or SHIFT+CTRL+D as suggested above for the case that > > CTRL+B is already used. > > For an app like GRAMPS the Clipboard is much, much more important than > organize bookmarks. So an easy shortcut like CTRL+B is to be preferred (as > CTRL+C conflicts with cancel and is not possible). Bookmarking in all > browsers is CTRL+D, so let's keep it like that. In Firefox Organize > Bookmarks does not even have a shortcut, and I don't think we need it here, > but if we add it, SHIFT+CTRL+B as I made it is not bad in my opinion. What I meant to say is: Now that Ctrl+B is used for the Clipboard and cannot be used for Edit Bookmarks. We could use the Gnome standard " Shift+Ctrl+D as the shortcut for Edit Bookmarks." But I am happy with either. Thanks again for your effort in making Gramps easier to use keyboard only/mostly. It is appreciated. Raphael |