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From: Ross G. <ro...@th...> - 2014-01-13 17:13:14
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On 01/13/2014 10:59 AM, Benny Malengier wrote: > > 2014/1/12 Eric Doutreleau <gro...@gm... > <mailto:gro...@gm...>> > > Hi > > I would like to run some compute intensive operation on my wheezy > server. but i don't succeed in launching it when i run it i got the > following message > > Your pygobject version does not meet the requirements. At least > pygobject 3.3.2 is needed to start Gramps with a GUI. > > Gramps will terminate now. but i have no newer version available > > i m not very well at ease with debian distro does someone how to > cope with this problem? > > > > Ross, what is status for debian packages? You have something users > can test? > <snip> The current plan is a Python 2 version of Gramps 4.0.2 for Debian Jessie. I am nearly ready to do a test build, and test all of the dependencies and to confirm the closure of bugs in the Debian Bug Tracker. I was hoping to get something out next month so that it could be in Ubuntu 14.04, however gir1.2-osmgpsmap-1.0 (for the Geography view) is only in Debian experimental, and gir1.0-goocanvas-0.10 (for the Graphview plugin) has been removed from Debian testing. A quick test of osmgpsmap before Chrsitmas failed. Give me a week or two to do some more testing & investigation. If I can't get things completely working, perhaps I could try and get a version with reduced functionality into Debian experimental. Ross |
From: Enno B. <enn...@gm...> - 2014-01-13 16:36:12
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Hi Sturdy, > I tried 4.0.2 on ubuntu 13.10 and Mint 16 yesterday and still had missing > horizontal scrollbars on both. Are the horiz scrollbars present on your > install? No, and they aren't there on 4.0.3 either. I know that you're aware of this report http://www.gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=7238 and don't see good news there yet. Therefore, I'm back to 3.4.6 on my laptop now. regards, Enno |
From: sturdy <st...@ve...> - 2014-01-13 15:38:26
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Enno, I tried 4.0.2 on ubuntu 13.10 and Mint 16 yesterday and still had missing horizontal scrollbars on both. Are the horiz scrollbars present on your install? Regards Sturdy -- View this message in context: http://gramps.1791082.n4.nabble.com/how-to-run-gramps4-on-wheezy-tp4664185p4664200.html Sent from the GRAMPS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
From: Enno B. <enn...@gm...> - 2014-01-13 14:45:49
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Hi, > I've spent the past week migrating everything I do over to Mint and I > have to say I'm really pleased with the transition, Gramps 3.4.6-1 > runs seamlessly (not tried 4.x I've not migrated that far yet). Runs > faster than WinXP as the python VM loads faster. > > All in all I'm very pleased so far.... Nice. I tried Mint Debian on my laptop too, i.e. the one that is NOT Ubuntu based, and installation froze three times in a row, so I'll install standard Mint again. http://www.linuxmint.com/download.php Gramps 4 runs fine on Mint, and if you want to give it a try, you can download 4.0.3 from our SF page. http://sourceforge.net/projects/gramps/ This version is supposed to be compatible with 3.4.6, which means that you can still go back if you want, and I assume it's just as stable as the 4.0.2 version elsewhere on SF. I haven't seen any problems with it myself on Mint. But if you try, it is always safest to make a backup first. cheers, Enno |
From: Matt K. <mat...@gm...> - 2014-01-13 14:07:03
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Hi, Just confirm I've been using WinXP for a number of years now on my home machine, however I use Solaris every day using gnome 2.x, Gramps 3.x runs perfect on Solaris. I'd always planned to migrated from WinXP to either Solaris or Linux, and now that official support for WinXp will happen in Apr-2014 that time has become now :) Solaris would originally have been my preference but unfortunately Solaris's desktop support is all but disappeared now, so Linux became the preferred route, but which one. As gramps.org releases .deb packages for each release I decided to not go for RPM based distro (Red Hat/Fedors, Suse), instead I focused on Debian based, and Mint Cinnabar looked like the best match. I've spent the past week migrating everything I do over to Mint and I have to say I'm really pleased with the transition, Gramps 3.4.6-1 runs seamlessly (not tried 4.x I've not migrated that far yet). Runs faster than WinXP as the python VM loads faster. All in all I'm very pleased so far.... cheers Matt On 13 January 2014 12:31, Enno Borgsteede <enn...@gm...> wrote: > Hi Eric, > > Well it s only a personnal server that run only right now multimedia > > streaming and converting. > > for my day to day use i use fedora but i would like a distribution > > that is more stable concerning version on this "server". > > My first option was centos but it can't run gramps4 too. > > what kind of "debianish" distro i can use to use gramps4? > Next to Ubuntu recommended by Benny, you can also use Mint, which uses > the packages distributed by Ubuntu, but has desktops that I like way > more than Ubuntu's Unity, or KDE, or Xubuntu. Mint is number 1 on > distrowatch, and runs Gramps 4 just as well. > > While most Mint versions are Ubuntu based, and follow the Ubuntu > releases closely, there is another Mint version that may be even more > interesting for you, because it is directly based on Debian Testing, and > thus looks like the most debianish you can get. It is also semi-rolling, > meaning that you don't have to do big upgrades like you have to to with > Ubuntu and standard Mint. > > You can download this version here > > http://www.linuxmint.com/download_lmde.php > > and try if you can install the latest 4.0 deb files that we have on > that, see > > http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Download > > I will try that my on laptop later today, I hope. > > regards, > > Enno > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. > Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For > Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. > Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > -- HH Golf Society www.hh-gs.com IFLAF www.iflaf.com |
From: Enno B. <enn...@gm...> - 2014-01-13 12:31:37
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Hi Eric, > Well it s only a personnal server that run only right now multimedia > streaming and converting. > for my day to day use i use fedora but i would like a distribution > that is more stable concerning version on this "server". > My first option was centos but it can't run gramps4 too. > what kind of "debianish" distro i can use to use gramps4? Next to Ubuntu recommended by Benny, you can also use Mint, which uses the packages distributed by Ubuntu, but has desktops that I like way more than Ubuntu's Unity, or KDE, or Xubuntu. Mint is number 1 on distrowatch, and runs Gramps 4 just as well. While most Mint versions are Ubuntu based, and follow the Ubuntu releases closely, there is another Mint version that may be even more interesting for you, because it is directly based on Debian Testing, and thus looks like the most debianish you can get. It is also semi-rolling, meaning that you don't have to do big upgrades like you have to to with Ubuntu and standard Mint. You can download this version here http://www.linuxmint.com/download_lmde.php and try if you can install the latest 4.0 deb files that we have on that, see http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Download I will try that my on laptop later today, I hope. regards, Enno |
From: Tiemo H. T. <too...@ke...> - 2014-01-13 11:27:55
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Hi, I would like to create a (narrated) Web site report without the narration part, but can't find any option. Any workarounds? Thanks for any ideas Tiemo |
From: Ron J. <ron...@co...> - 2014-01-13 10:53:28
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Ubuntu 13.04 runs Gramps 4 just fine. On 01/13/2014 03:03 AM, Eric Doutreleau wrote: > Hi > Thanks for the answer Benny. > Well it s only a personnal server that run only right now multimedia > streaming and converting. > for my day to day use i use fedora but i would like a distribution that is > more stable concerning version on this "server". > My first option was centos but it can't run gramps4 too. > what kind of "debianish" distro i can use to use gramps4? > -- This signature doesn't kill fascists. |
From: Benny M. <ben...@gm...> - 2014-01-13 09:59:54
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2014/1/12 Eric Doutreleau <gro...@gm...> > Hi > > I would like to run some compute intensive operation on my wheezy server. > but i don't succeed in launching it > when i run it i got the following message > > Your pygobject version does not meet the requirements. > At least pygobject 3.3.2 is needed to start Gramps with a GUI. > > Gramps will terminate now. > but i have no newer version available > > i m not very well at ease with debian distro > does someone how to cope with this problem? > Ross, what is status for debian packages? You have something users can test? Eric, Since Ubuntu 13.10, the debian package on our SF download mirror will work. Should work on other Debian based systems too. If you start in a terminal, it will print out missing pieces, but for those, pacackages are available. Best use python 2 still as a user, and not python 3. Benny > Thank you > -- > un blog cool > http://journal.doutreleau.fr > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. > Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For > Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. > Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > > |
From: Pat C. <wee...@in...> - 2014-01-13 09:50:55
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I had 4.02 running in SolydK. But I found setting up the geography and graphic modules too confusing for me to follow. All of the program functioned with no troubles, including adding media. But I got lost trying to get the graph reports working.... After this I removed 4, installed python-central and settled for 3.4.6-1 where /everything/ works using debian with KDE. Pat On 01/13/2014 09:03 AM, Eric Doutreleau wrote: > Hi > Thanks for the answer Benny. > Well it s only a personnal server that run only right now multimedia > streaming and converting. > for my day to day use i use fedora but i would like a distribution > that is more stable concerning version on this "server". > My first option was centos but it can't run gramps4 too. > what kind of "debianish" distro i can use to use gramps4? > > |
From: Eric D. <gro...@gm...> - 2014-01-13 09:03:22
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Hi Thanks for the answer Benny. Well it s only a personnal server that run only right now multimedia streaming and converting. for my day to day use i use fedora but i would like a distribution that is more stable concerning version on this "server". My first option was centos but it can't run gramps4 too. what kind of "debianish" distro i can use to use gramps4? 2014/1/13 Benny Malengier <ben...@gm...> > > > > 2014/1/12 Eric Doutreleau <gro...@gm...> > >> Hi >> >> I would like to run some compute intensive operation on my wheezy server. >> but i don't succeed in launching it >> when i run it i got the following message >> >> Your pygobject version does not meet the requirements. >> At least pygobject 3.3.2 is needed to start Gramps with a GUI. >> >> Gramps will terminate now. >> but i have no newer version available >> >> i m not very well at ease with debian distro >> does someone how to cope with this problem? >> > > You cannot run gramps 4.0 on wheezy. > You could install all needed dependencies, but as this is a server, it > would be a bad idea to do so. Servers should be stable, therefore they > typically run older software. > > You have some options. The Debian developer is preparing 4.0 packages in > debian testing. Otherwise, you use virtualbox to install a new version of > linux in a VM, and use that to install gramps 4.0 > > Benny > > >> >> Thank you >> -- >> un blog cool >> http://journal.doutreleau.fr >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. >> Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For >> Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. >> Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. >> >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> _______________________________________________ >> Gramps-users mailing list >> Gra...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users >> >> > -- un blog cool http://journal.doutreleau.fr |
From: Benny M. <ben...@gm...> - 2014-01-13 08:51:00
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2014/1/12 Eric Doutreleau <gro...@gm...> > Hi > > I would like to run some compute intensive operation on my wheezy server. > but i don't succeed in launching it > when i run it i got the following message > > Your pygobject version does not meet the requirements. > At least pygobject 3.3.2 is needed to start Gramps with a GUI. > > Gramps will terminate now. > but i have no newer version available > > i m not very well at ease with debian distro > does someone how to cope with this problem? > You cannot run gramps 4.0 on wheezy. You could install all needed dependencies, but as this is a server, it would be a bad idea to do so. Servers should be stable, therefore they typically run older software. You have some options. The Debian developer is preparing 4.0 packages in debian testing. Otherwise, you use virtualbox to install a new version of linux in a VM, and use that to install gramps 4.0 Benny > > Thank you > -- > un blog cool > http://journal.doutreleau.fr > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. > Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For > Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. > Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > > |
From: <ygg...@gm...> - 2014-01-12 23:10:13
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Hi, Some time ago I toyed around with making a timeline [1] xml file from a gramps filter. I never got around to finishing it off and lately got some time to test this again. I did however have it working well enough to export a filtered group of people to a timeline xml with birth and death dates that could be read by the Timeline application (which is a quite neat way to visualise a chronology of events). Unfortunately I can't get the plugin to load properly to show up in the gramps interface, although I believe this was working before I updated Gramps (to my current version 4.0.2). It appears there may be some new ways to use plugins with the newer versions? Anyhow, I have looked around but can't find anywhere to start to correct the error so any help would be appreciated! The module shows up as loaded in the plugin manager, but when opening the export dialogue the module is not there and going back to the plugin manager gives the error "No module named gen.lib". I guess maybe changing to "gramps.gen.lib" could solve this, but is this really necessary and the best way? Files attached below. |
From: Eric D. <gro...@gm...> - 2014-01-12 22:02:55
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Hi I would like to run some compute intensive operation on my wheezy server. but i don't succeed in launching it when i run it i got the following message Your pygobject version does not meet the requirements. At least pygobject 3.3.2 is needed to start Gramps with a GUI. Gramps will terminate now. but i have no newer version available i m not very well at ease with debian distro does someone how to cope with this problem? Thank you -- un blog cool http://journal.doutreleau.fr |
From: Eckhard G. <eck...@on...> - 2014-01-12 20:50:33
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Hi all, I wanted to generate a new birthday report for the New Year. Unfortunately, it gives me some people 150 years old or even older Ive checked the only living people flag, but still have those people showing-up in the report. For those people in my database where I do not have a documented death date, I added a deathevent without date or place specified. By adding this event to the individuals data I wanted to indicate that this people should be ignored in any living only-reports. Im pretty sure that previous versions of Gramps did suppress this individuals in the reports. Is this a bug or simply wrong use of the system on my side? Is there any better practice available to indicate that people are dead (most likely) without knowing the date? Im using GrampsAIO64 3.4.6-1 on Windows 7 Home Premium German Many thanks, Eckhard |
From: <pek...@ko...> - 2014-01-12 20:21:28
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Hi, I can't find in documentation an answer to next: Last choice in Person List context menu is WEB Connect which opens very long and diffused list of web addresses. Where are those addresses defined and how can a user edit this list? Pekka |
From: Peter H. <gr...@he...> - 2014-01-12 17:55:04
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On 13/01/14 05:35, Filipe Correia wrote: <snip> > >> so I made a little python script to automate this. >> It is still rather a manual process, but is over here if you wish to try it. >> http://www.gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=6184 > > Cool. I was just considering which reordering criteria could be used > to get a better layout. If I understand it, you're taking a more > pragmatic approach --- just keep reordering the nodes until you get > less crossings, right? > Anyway, the output looks pretty good in terms of crossings! > > I think there may a be a bug there somewhere because some persons are > appearing "disconnected" from the rest of my tree after running the > script (I'm theorizing it has to do with siblings for which I don't > know the name of the parents, but have to check better). Yes, the script just keeps moving the people lines about, and at each step, selects the order that gives the less crossings. The end result isn't necessarily the best possible arrangement, but it certainly makes a big improvement where I've used it. I haven't seen the script cause any disconnections. Are these people connected before running the script? > Another thing that I've noticed is that the script is not keeping the > subgraphs that make spouses together on the output (you get that if > you use the "subgraphs" option on the report's option tab). I guess > this happens because the script just reorders lines of the dot file > (i.e., assuming that there are no subgraphs). I wonder if we could use > a similar algorithm while keeping the subgraphs, even if it doesn't > allow to optimize crossings as much. We could probably use something > like pydot to do the parsing for us, so that it's easier to read the > subgraphs. I might get around to try something along these lines (but > likely not before one or two months). I haven't worked with the script for a while, and can't remember details like that. But I'd be interested in improving things if possible. Please can you send a sample data file that shows this problem? Regards Peter |
From: Filipe C. <fco...@gm...> - 2014-01-12 16:35:08
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Hi Peter, On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 3:43 AM, Peter Hewett <gr...@he...> wrote: > can you please explain what you mean by "overlapping edges"? > The image at that URL has lots of crossed lines, but I'm not sure what > overlapping edges are. Yes. What I mean is edges that cross each other with a very flat angle. Crossing edges are not good, but legebility tends to get worse when they practically overlap. My second example illustrates this better than the first one: http://i.imgur.com/ncJKZSu.png. > Optimising the layout of the relationship graph is a bit difficult, > because this is done in graphviz, not gramps. To some extent, it > depends on the order of lines in the .gv file passed to graphviz. I > found that swapping lines about in the .gv file can significantly > improve the layout, ... Exactly. I've been playing with the same idea... > so I made a little python script to automate this. > It is still rather a manual process, but is over here if you wish to try it. > http://www.gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=6184 Cool. I was just considering which reordering criteria could be used to get a better layout. If I understand it, you're taking a more pragmatic approach --- just keep reordering the nodes until you get less crossings, right? Anyway, the output looks pretty good in terms of crossings! I think there may a be a bug there somewhere because some persons are appearing "disconnected" from the rest of my tree after running the script (I'm theorizing it has to do with siblings for which I don't know the name of the parents, but have to check better). Another thing that I've noticed is that the script is not keeping the subgraphs that make spouses together on the output (you get that if you use the "subgraphs" option on the report's option tab). I guess this happens because the script just reorders lines of the dot file (i.e., assuming that there are no subgraphs). I wonder if we could use a similar algorithm while keeping the subgraphs, even if it doesn't allow to optimize crossings as much. We could probably use something like pydot to do the parsing for us, so that it's easier to read the subgraphs. I might get around to try something along these lines (but likely not before one or two months). Filipe |
From: Filipe C. <fco...@gm...> - 2014-01-12 16:10:11
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Hi Benny, On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 10:54 PM, Benny Malengier <ben...@gm...> wrote: > I would suggest you load the dot once in gephi and play around: > http://gephi.org/ > It seems to have matured a lot, and can read graphviz dot. Haven't tried > though. Gephi looked promising, but I'm afraid I wasn't able to do anything interesting with it.. :-) The dot layout is still the "less sucky" that I found. Filipe |
From: Filipe C. <fco...@gm...> - 2014-01-12 16:08:44
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On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Nick Hall <nic...@ho...> wrote: > In my own experience, graphviz doesn't produce perfect output and I have > need to customise it. I'm sure that other users would benefit from some > enhancements. We can easily add extra report options. > > You could try ordering siblings together, or try using sub-graphs. I don't > have any suggestions though. What do you think about adding an "Initial State" option on the Graphviz Options tab? It could provide a couple of alternatives (different initial node-ordering algorithms) that users could experiment with to find what would work best for their particular case. I was already using the sub-graphs option to keep spouses close together. Your other suggestion (ordering siblings together) sounds like is worth a shot. > Perhaps we need to make it easier to edit the graph. Output in a format > readable by a diagram editor, such as Dia, would be useful. Once I've done something similar to exclude a branch of the tree that I didn't want to output. I've created the report using the SVG output and edited the result with Inkscape. But I agree that Dia could be better because it's a diagram editor, and not just a vector drawing app, which means edges will follow the nodes if you need to move them around manually. Overall, though, fiding a good layout to the graph/tree is something that I definitely want the computer to do for me, so I wouldn't see a Dia-export as a high priority (considering my use cases). Filipe |
From: Paul F. <pf....@gm...> - 2014-01-09 04:07:03
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I suggest you file a bug on our bug-reporting site. Our Mac maintainer is usually very responsive to Mac bugs but I don't think he reads the users' list. |
From: Doug B. <dou...@gm...> - 2014-01-08 20:49:10
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On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Elvin Birth <elv...@gm...> wrote: > My recent download has fields labeled with oriental characters. > > I find nothing in Preferences to offer a choice of language. > > Elvin Birth, > GRAMPS: 4.0.2 > Python: 2.7.3 (default, Nov 8 2013, 10:09:51) [... > BSDDB: 4.8.4.2 (4, 8, 30) > LANG: en_US.UTF-8 > OS: Darwin > Distribution: 10.8.0 Can you provide a screen shot? I haven't heard of such a problem, so we'll probably need more information and clues to track down the problem. Thanks! -Doug > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT > organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance > affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your > Java,.NET, & PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics > Pro! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > |
From: Elvin B. <elv...@gm...> - 2014-01-08 20:36:26
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My recent download has fields labeled with oriental characters. I find nothing in Preferences to offer a choice of language. Elvin Birth, GRAMPS: 4.0.2 Python: 2.7.3 (default, Nov 8 2013, 10:09:51) [... BSDDB: 4.8.4.2 (4, 8, 30) LANG: en_US.UTF-8 OS: Darwin Distribution: 10.8.0 |
From: Allan T. <ad...@nc...> - 2014-01-08 14:21:49
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O.k. finally finished with festivities ... and ready to knuckle down. BUT ... does "this" (the following text) mean I should do something different? Or is it as "simple" as transferring "all" of the files in the 2 directories on the old machine to identically named directories on the new machine? Or should I better just be patient and wait for the more complete "package" On 13-12-23 08:22 AM, Doug Blank wrote: > Good point. Sometimes things like name formats, styles, filters, > gramplet configs, and report options are just as important as the > actual family tree data. (Maybe we should consider a more complete > "package" that literally contains everything.) > > All of those can be found in your hidden "user directory" [1], or in > its gramps-version-specific subdirectory: > > ~/.gramps/*.xml > ~/.gramps/gramps34/*.ini |
From: Peter H. <gr...@he...> - 2014-01-08 04:16:28
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On 04/01/14 12:22, Filipe Correia wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm getting overlapping edges on my relationship graphs. > Here's a sample of what I'm seeing: http://i.imgur.com/U9I6yRv.png > I don't mind a few crossings, but overlapping edges can get very confusing... > > The family tree that I'm building is growing a bit but it's not that huge. > Are there any known workarounds? > > I tried looking at the source-code of the Relationship Graph report, > hoping that I could add an extra graphviz parameter in there somewhere > to work around it, but It's quite a bit to chew on (it wasn't obvious > to me where the report output is actually being done). > > Thanks in advance! > > Filipe Hi Filipe can you please explain what you mean by "overlapping edges"? The image at that URL has lots of crossed lines, but I'm not sure what overlapping edges are. Optimising the layout of the relationship graph is a bit difficult, because this is done in graphviz, not gramps. To some extent, it depends on the order of lines in the .gv file passed to graphviz. I found that swapping lines about in the .gv file can significantly improve the layout, so I made a little python script to automate this. It is still rather a manual process, but is over here if you wish to try it. http://www.gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=6184 HTH Peter |