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Re: [geomview-users] geomview-users Digest, Vol 53, Issue 9
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From: Nieuwendaal, R. <rya...@ni...> - 2015-12-11 17:58:14
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Hello Lloyd, I have a new development that I would like to report to the group. I have tried installing Cygwin-32 and Geomview 1.9.5 on my home computer (no firewall), and I was able to successfully get past the time_t error that I was seeing previously. So, I think that more-or-less conclusively says that that error was due to a firewall at my work. Unfortunately, I am still trying to get Geomview installed. I am getting the Motif Xm/Xm.h header error (I see the likely cause from the Geomview website) but I can't even see it in the include file. I have uninstalled and re-installed Motif and that does not work. It is motif-2.3.4. Thanks, Ryan -----Original Message----- From: geo...@li... [mailto:geo...@li...] Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 6:25 PM To: geo...@li... Subject: geomview-users Digest, Vol 53, Issue 9 Send geomview-users mailing list submissions to geo...@li... To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geomview-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to geo...@li... You can reach the person managing the list at geo...@li... When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of geomview-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Geomview configure time_t error - Windows (llo...@ya...) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 23:24:03 +0000 (UTC) From: <llo...@ya...> Subject: Re: [geomview-users] Geomview configure time_t error - Windows To: "Nieuwendaal, Ryan" <rya...@ni...>, "geo...@li..." <geo...@li...> Message-ID: <166...@ma...> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Ryan, Difficulty accessing or downloading from Cygwin mirrors suggests firewall,NAT or security settings issues. In over ten years of using Geomview onCygwin on a wide variety of Windows PCs in a wide variety of environments,I have not encountered what you describe. You can't build Geomview without gcc or Xlib -- and their dependencies.(And yet, configure claims gcc/g++ is installed? Faulty autoconftesting?) Issues with unfamiliarity with computing and unreliable narration/poorreporting apart,?your problems here are because you have not installedCygwin and its packages properly. And?they are not problems withGeomview itself. Your 32-bit and 64-bit Cygwin installs seem to beexhibiting different behaviours due to different missing packages. You would need to talk to your system administrator about installingCygwin properly or how to get Geomview running; installing Geomviewunder Ubuntu under VirtualBox may well have similar package downloadissues for you in your network environment, and there's a similar(though slightly different) learning curve. Asking for access toan account on an existing Linux box, where someone has installedGeomview for you, may be easiest for you. (It's just click a buttonto install from the Ubuntu Software Center, available on Debian etc.) But again, these are not problems with Geomview itself. Anindictment of the unix homebrew-from-parts philosophy and buildprocess for portability that underlies Geomview and Cygwin,certainly, but not something this list can address.? Lloyd Woodhttp://savi.sf.net From: "Nieuwendaal, Ryan" <rya...@ni...> To: "llo...@ya..." <llo...@ya...>; "geo...@li..." <geo...@li...> Sent: Thursday, 10 December 2015, 2:41 Subject: RE: Geomview configure time_t error - Windows #yiv7769127277 #yiv7769127277 -- _filtered #yiv7769127277 {font-family:Helvetica;panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} _filtered #yiv7769127277 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv7769127277 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv7769127277 #yiv7769127277 p.yiv7769127277MsoNormal, #yiv7769127277 li.yiv7769127277MsoNormal, #yiv7769127277 div.yiv7769127277MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv7769127277 a:link, #yiv7769127277 span.yiv7769127277MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv7769127277 a:visited, #yiv7769127277 span.yiv7769127277MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv7769127277 p {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv7769127277 p.yiv7769127277msolistparagraph, #yiv7769127277 li.yiv7769127277msolistparagraph, #yiv7769127277 div.yiv7769127277msolistparagraph {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv7769127277 p.yiv7769127277msonormal, #yiv7769127277 li.yiv7769127277msonormal, #yiv7769127277 div.yiv7769127277msonormal {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv7769127277 span.yiv7769127277msohyperlink {}#yiv7769127277 span.yiv7769127277msohyperlinkfollowed {}#yiv7769127277 span.yiv7769127277emailstyle19 {}#yiv7769127277 p.yiv7769127277msonormal1, #yiv7769127277 li.yiv7769127277msonormal1, #yiv7769127277 div.yiv7769127277msonormal1 {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv7769127277 span.yiv7769127277msohyperlink1 {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv7769127277 span.yiv7769127277msohyperlinkfollowed1 {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv7769127277 p.yiv7769127277msolistparagraph1, #yiv7769127277 li.yiv7769127277msolistparagraph1, #yiv7769127277 div.yiv7769127277msolistparagraph1 {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv7769127277 span.yiv7769127277emailstyle191 {color:#1F497D;}#yiv7769127277 span.yiv7769127277EmailStyle28 {color:#1F497D;}#yiv7769127277 .yiv7769127277MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv7769127277 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv7769127277 div.yiv7769127277WordSection1 {}#yiv7769127277 Hi Lloyd, ? I installed Cygwin-64, re-installed Geomview, and I received the same error. I have attached my foo file and config.log file and I think they look the same as before. I should also say that by many of the packages that I am supposed to install (as listed on the Geomview install website) are missing from the Cygwin mirrors (and I have tried a couple) that I have tried. In particular, the gcc, the libiconv, and the zlib-devel (under Devel), the opengl (under Graphics), and libx11-devel (under X11) are all missing. When I proceed without them, I am prompted by a pop-up window that tells me I should install a number of other dependencies (I have attached a file with all of their names). ? Could this be the issue? ? Thanks again for all of your help. ? Ryan ? From: llo...@ya... [mailto:llo...@ya...] Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 8:45 PM To: Nieuwendaal, Ryan <rya...@ni...>; geo...@li... Subject: Re: Geomview configure time_t error - Windows ? Ryan, ? ? I've been using Geomview on 32-bit Cygwin on 64-bit Windows since at least 2009. Like other 32-bit apps, cygwin works; Windows is generally good at backward compatibility, if nothing else, and any problems that I've encountered are generally due to changes in Cygwin itself, rather than Windows. ? ? 64-bit cygwin is much more recent. ? ? In a clean newly unpacked new build of Geomview I get: ? ? checking for size_t... (cached) yes checking whether time.h and sys/time.h may both be included... yes checking whether struct tm is in sys/time.h or time.h... time.h checking for M_PI... yes ? ? Not sure how to wipe the cached value for autoconf to rederive from scratch. ? ? The reason for asking you to test 64-bit cygwin in your environment is to see if the same problem occurs, or not, under it when building Geomview, which provides useful debugging information - because time_t is likely handled differently in 64-bit. It's two-sample hypothesis testing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A/B_testing ? ? Do let us know the results of that... ? ? Lloyd Wood http://savi.sf.net ? From: "Nieuwendaal, Ryan" <rya...@ni...> To: Lloyd Wood <llo...@ya...>; "geo...@li..." <geo...@li...> Sent: Wednesday, 9 December 2015, 10:03 Subject: RE: Geomview configure time_t error - Windows ? Hi Lloyd, 1)?????I have administrator privileges, yes. 2)?????I haven?t tried Cygwin-64. HasGeomview in Cygwin-32 been known to not work well with 64-bit PC?s? Again, thanks again for your help. I appreciate it. Ryan ? ? From: Lloyd Wood [mailto:llo...@ya...] Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 4:51 PM To: Nieuwendaal, Ryan <rya...@ni...>;llo...@ya...; geo...@li... Subject: Geomview configure time_t error - Windows ? well, that clearly indicates the time detection problem; there's a reason error messages appear... it's so they can be cut and pasted and reported. do you have windows administrator privileges? ? your home cygwin directory lives under C:\cygwin\home\ryann ? cd /home/ryann in an xterm, create a directory, work from there. ? you might also want to read some cygwin tutorials. ? (what are the odds that this is something to do with changes to running 32-bit cygwin on 64-bit windows and/or esr's smugsmugsmug rewrite of ntp??http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6863 ? I haven't tried updating my 32/64 cygwin packages under win64 and rebuilding geomview to see if I can duplicate this on very current cygwin - now out of available time...) ? what happens if you try configure geomview on cygwin64? it can be installed in parallel, tree under c:\cygwin64. Lloyd Wood http://savi.sf.net ? On Wednesday, December 9, 2015, 7:31 AM, Nieuwendaal, Ryan <rya...@ni...> wrote: Hi Lloyd, ? Thank you for your prompt reply. 1)?????I did receive an error message (sorry, I should have led with that) when running ?./configure >foo? that said: ?configure: error: in ?/cygdrive/c/users/ryann/downloads/geomview-1.9.5?: configure: error: cannot compute sizeof (time_t) See ?config.log? for more details? (I attached the config.log file) 2)?????I am working on an Intel? Core? i7-3770 CPU, 64-bit OS, Windows 7, SP 1. 3)?????Should I just work directly under c:? So move my geomview-1.9.5 file from /Downloads to /C? ? ~Ryan ? From:llo...@ya... [mailto:llo...@ya...] Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:05 PM To: Nieuwendaal, Ryan <rya...@ni...>;geo...@li... Subject: Re: geomview-users post from rya...@ni... requires approval ? Your configure output file is incomplete - stops at checking size of time_t...? ? that's very very odd. Did you let the configure command complete and return to prompt before copying foo? It takes a while.? ? Please describe the system you are installing on. ? (I could add a 'move the file from Downloads' step. Compiling and working in Downloads is not a good idea. Get Windows to clean up temporary files with Disk Cleanup, lose all your work... but I did not set out to write a tutorial on how to use a computer.) ? Lloyd Wood http://savi.sf.net ? From: "Nieuwendaal, Ryan" <rya...@ni...> To: "llo...@ya..." <llo...@ya...>; "geo...@li..." <geo...@li...> Sent: Wednesday, 9 December 2015, 6:33 Subject: RE: geomview-users post from rya...@ni... requires approval ? Hi Lloyd, ? I subscribed to the mailing list and am attaching my foo file. ? I ended up in the Downloads directory because I simply unpackedGeomview using the command ?tar xfvz geomview-1.9.5.tar.gz? within Cygwin. It is step #4 in the instructions here:http://personal.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/L.Wood/software/SaVi/building-under-Windows/ ? Ryan ? ? From:llo...@ya... [mailto:llo...@ya...] Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 2:07 PM To: Nieuwendaal, Ryan <rya...@ni...>;geo...@li... Subject: Re: geomview-users post from rya...@ni... requires approval ? Ryan ? you need to subscribe to the mailing list so that I don't have to personally approve all your messages. https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geomview-users ? Cygwin user accounts live under /home, e.g. /home/ryann ? While C:\Users\ryann\Downloads\geomview-1.9.5 exists and is mapped to /cygdrive/C/Users/ryann/Downloads/geomview-1.9.5 (as is shown in your config.log), it's not a usual choice for storing program files. (No spaces in the pathname, which can be more of a problem from unwary scripts if e.g. you built under Documents\ and\ Settings.) But I copied the Geomview tarball to my C:?Downloads directory and could configure and make just fine. How are you cd'ing to that Downloads directory? Please do: ./configure > foo in that geomview directory and send the output of foo - that will capture all of the detection messages that configure otherwise spits to stdout and the screen. The foo output of my configure in my Downloads directory is attached for comparison. ? Lloyd Wood http://savi.sf.net ? From: "Nieuwendaal, Ryan" <rya...@ni...> To: "llo...@ya..." <llo...@ya...>; "geo...@li..." <geo...@li...> Sent: Wednesday, 9 December 2015, 2:04 Subject: RE: geomview-users post from rya...@ni... requires approval ? Hello Lloyd Wood, ? Thank you for your prompt response. I installed Geomview 1.9.5 and I am executing the./configure command (followed by the make command) in the directory C:\Users\ryann\Downloads\geomview-1.9.5, which does have three files titled ?makefile? in it: ?makefile?, ?makefile.in?, and ?makefile.am? ? I am using 32-bit Cygwin since 64-bit Cygwin was not recommended. ? I am attaching my makefiles as well as the config.log so you can see what spits out after I execute./configure. ? Thanks again, ? ~Ryan ? ? From:llo...@ya... [mailto:llo...@ya...] Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 6:33 PM To: geo...@li...; Nieuwendaal, Ryan <rya...@ni...> Subject: Re: geomview-users post from rya...@ni... requires approval ? The makefile is built by ./configure. What is the output of ./configure? Are you in the right directory? Are you building from the 1.9.5 tarball, or from cvs HEAD? ? (Are you on 32-bit or 64-bit Cygwin? piping to Geomview still doesn't work on 64-bit, so 32-bit is better. Install Virtualbox, install debian, click to install Geomview is much easier.) ? 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