Re: [Firestarter-user] Firewall not persistent

[The C. <the...@ho...>]

I filed the bug at:
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https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firestarter/+bug/59647
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and at:
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http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D355791
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I agree with you. Ubuntu is now one of (if not the) top Linux distro. The b=
ulk of the users are not technical experts. It is aboundently clear from th=
e forums that the Ubuntu community believes the firewall established throug=
h Firestarter is persistent through reboots. Comments like the following ab=
ound in the forums:
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Firestarter is basically a front end for the built in firewall in linux cal=
led iptables. You dont need to run firestarter to have it block things. But=
 if you wanna see what its blocking, you have to have it open.
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Why do you want to run firestarter on startup? Do you want to configure you=
r firewall every time you log on? ... Firestarter is just a GUI to configur=
e the already built-in and running firewall.
 Thanks! - you just enlightened me - I didn't know that the firewall was al=
ready running! - so - I don't need to run firestarter at every startup. ---=
-
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if the firewall is not persistent then it is a disaster waiting to happen f=
or some poor unsuspecting users. Maybe its just I and a few other users tha=
t have some pecularities in our configurations. I would be interested to kn=
ow if other Ubuntu or Debian users can reproduce the behaviour.
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> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 12:28:29 -0400> From: bri...@gm...> To: f=
ire...@li...> Subject: Re: [Firestarter-user] Fire=
wall not persistent> > On 26/09/06, Anthony Campbell <ac...@ac...> =
wrote:> > On 26 Sep 2006, J.O. Aho wrote:> > > On Tue, 26 Sep 2006, The Che=
mist wrote:> > >> > > > Yes I know that. However both the Firestarter manua=
l and Ubuntu> > > > documentation/forums say this should happen automatical=
ly upon> > > > installing Firestarter from a package. The fact that (at lea=
st in my> > > > case) it requires user intervention contrary to what the do=
cumentation> > > > says is a security risk for an unsuspecting user. There =
is something> > > > wrong either with the documentation or with my> > > > i=
nstallation/configuration.> > >> > > If you make a check at www.distrowatch=
.com, you will notice that there> > > are loads of distros, many uses their=
 own method to start services which> > > makes it difficult for the authors=
 to make a script for each init-system> > > used. Firestarter does provide =
a script for Redhat like systems (works> > > fine in RedHat, CentOS, Mandri=
via, Fedora, ASP, PLD and so on), it's then> > > up to each distro which in=
cludes the package to provide an init script> > > that works for the distro=
, the Gentoo users did make bug reports and> > > provided example init-scri=
pts for Gentoo Linux and nowadays there is an> > > init script for Gentoo L=
inux. You need to push more on the Ubuntu bugzilla> > > and of course you c=
ould send an init script to the authors of Firestarter> > > and see to it t=
o be included in next official release, this way it could> > > end up in ne=
xt version for Ubuntu too.> > >> > > The ubuntu guys may use the iptable sa=
ve function and then think it's> > > overkill with the init script for Fire=
starter, and in a way they are> > > right.> > >> > [snip]> >> > It does sta=
rt automatically with Debian. Ubuntu is supposed to be a> > Debian clone so=
 perhaps you should consider installing native Debian?> >> > Change your di=
stro because of  a packaging error?> It's no clone - there's a lot of value=
 add there for many people.> > Given that ubuntu is currently a top 3 popul=
arity distro, the website should at> least be updated to note that the ubun=
tu version does not currently> start automatically...> > Where's the bug fi=
led?  I'll test it here quickly and add my 2c to the> bug reports in hopes =
to> push it along...> > Brian> > ------------------------------------------=
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