[Etherboot-users] Re: Etherboot-users digest, Vol 1 #142 - 13 msgs

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> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:01:35 -0800
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> Today's Topics:
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>    1. RH7 glibc update (Marty Connor)
>    2. Detection of append statements (Thomas Lorenzen)
>    3. Re: Detection of append statements (Dirk von Suchodoletz)
>    4. Re: Detection of append statements (Jorge L. deLyra)
>    5. Re: RH7 glibc update (Marty Connor)
>    6. Re: Detection of append statements (Jim McQuillan)
>    7. Re: Detection of append statements (Thomas Lorenzen)
>    8. Re: Detection of append statements (Jim McQuillan)
>    9. Re: Detection of append statements (Thomas Lorenzen)
>   10. Re: Detection of append statements (Jim McQuillan)
>   11. Re: Detection of append statements (Thomas Lorenzen)
>   12. Re: Re: A Request - Next Server 0.0.0.0 (Dave Stubbs)
>   13. Re: RH7 glibc update (Richard June)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:21:43 -0500
> From: Marty Connor <md...@th...>
> To: "Etherboot Developers" <eth...@li...>,
>  "Etherboot Users" <eth...@li...>
> Subject: [Etherboot-users] RH7 glibc update
> 
> So I'm about this '' close to chucking RH7 and using another distribution 
> to demo at LinuxWorld Expo.
> 
> I just installed a virgin copy of RH7 on a machine and started to apply 
> all the package updates, and it now tells me that it can't update glibc 
> because I don't have the correct previous version.  I've tried --force 
> and other flags, but it won't do the upgrade.
> 
> I suspect that the version on the RH7 CD is too old to upgrade to the one 
> they have on their FTP site, but the intermediate versions were buggy so 
> they seem to have deleted them from their web site.
> 
> Has anyone else seen this?  Progeny (www.progeny.com) is looking might 
> good about now...
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Marty
> 
> ---
>     Try: http://rom-o-matic.net/ to make Etherboot images instantly.
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>    Name: Martin D. Connor
> US Mail: Entity Cyber, Inc.; P.O. Box 391827; Cambridge, MA 02139; USA
>   Voice: (617) 491-6935, Fax: (617) 491-7046 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:39:04 +0100 (CET)
> From: Thomas Lorenzen <tl...@th...>
> To: eth...@li...
> Subject: [Etherboot-users] Detection of append statements
> 
>      Hi'
> 
>    I have a couple of machines booting via the net using the
> lilo facility of etherboot. However, even though the
> machines have 256MB memory, only 64MB memory are detected.
> Including an 'append = "mem=256M"' line in the lilo.conf
> file does not seem to help. I know the --append option to
> mknbi-linux, but these machines are just a part of a
> computing cluster, and thus I would like to have the same
> tagged linux kernel file for all the machines instead of
> having a different tagged linux kernel file for each amount
> of memory I have in each machine.
> 
>    Would anybody know, if it is somehow possible to transfer
> the append statement from the etherboot booting process to
> the linux kernel.
> 
>    Thanks for any help in advance.
> 
>    Best Regards.
> 
>      Thomas.
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Cand. Scient. Thomas Lorenzen               Phone : (+ 45) 35 32 02 50
> Department of Chemistry                       Fax : (+ 45) 35 32 02 59
> University of Copenhagen                     Mail : tl...@th...
> DK, 2100 Copenhagen, Denmark   Homepage : http://theochem.ki.ku.dk/~tl
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:42:32 +0100 (MET)
> From: Dirk von Suchodoletz <di...@go...>
> To: Thomas Lorenzen <tl...@th...>
> cc: eth...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Etherboot-users] Detection of append statements
> 
> 
> >    I have a couple of machines booting via the net using the
> > lilo facility of etherboot. However, even though the
> > machines have 256MB memory, only 64MB memory are detected.
> > Including an 'append = "mem=256M"' line in the lilo.conf
> > file does not seem to help. I know the --append option to
> > mknbi-linux, but these machines are just a part of a
> > computing cluster, and thus I would like to have the same
> > tagged linux kernel file for all the machines instead of
> > having a different tagged linux kernel file for each amount
> > of memory I have in each machine.
> 
> Did you try to update the BIOS of the machines with the wrong amount of
> memory detected by linux? I had several boards with the described problem:
> After an update of the BIOS everything was fine ...
> 
> So long,
> 	   Dirk
> 
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:52:05 -0200 (BRST)
> From: "Jorge L. deLyra" <de...@la...>
> To: Thomas Lorenzen <tl...@th...>
> cc: eth...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Etherboot-users] Detection of append statements
> 
> >    I have a couple of machines booting via the net using the
> > lilo facility of etherboot. However, even though the
> > machines have 256MB memory, only 64MB memory are detected.
> > Including an 'append = "mem=256M"' line in the lilo.conf
> > file does not seem to help.
> 
> Well, if you are net-booting, lilo is not being used at all, so you must
> put the option in the NBI kernel you boot, in the way you mention below.
> 
> > I know the --append option to
> > mknbi-linux, but these machines are just a part of a
> > computing cluster, and thus I would like to have the same
> > tagged linux kernel file for all the machines instead of
> > having a different tagged linux kernel file for each amount
> > of memory I have in each machine.
> 
> Well, you only have to have one kernel for each _class_ of machines: 64MB,
> 128MB and 256MB, say. That makes 3 kernels, not so bad... You can send the
> correct kernel to each machine configuring dhcp in the appropriate way.
> 
> >    Would anybody know, if it is somehow possible to transfer
> > the append statement from the etherboot booting process to
> > the linux kernel.
> 
> If a "write" operation on the setup doesn't solve the problem, I think you
> are stuck with the 3 kernels...
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>         Jorge L. deLyra,  Associate Professor of Physics
>             The University of Sao Paulo,  IFUSP-DFMA
>        For more information: finger de...@la...
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:23:46 -0500
> From: Marty Connor <md...@th...>
> To: "Etherboot Developers" <eth...@li...>,
>  "Etherboot Users" <eth...@li...>
> Subject: [Etherboot-users] Re: RH7 glibc update
> 
> On 1/21/2001 8:21 PM Marty Connor md...@th... wrote:
> > ^%#$%@W&@#@
> >I just installed a virgin copy of RH7 on a machine and started to apply 
> >all the package updates, and it now tells me that it can't update glibc 
> >because I don't have the correct previous version.  I've tried --force 
> >and other flags, but it won't do the upgrade.
> 
> Alright, I figured it out.  RPM couldn't do the upgrade because I was 
> trying to upgrade glibc-common and glibc-2.2-12 separately.  RPM needs 
> both updates to appear on the same line. So:
> 
>    rpm -Uvh glibc-common
>    rpm -Uvh glibc-2.2-12
> 
> won't work.
> but
> 
>    rpm -Uvh glibc-common glibc-2.2-12
> 
> will work, because RPM will find the dependencies it needs in both 
> packages right then.
> 
> grrrrr...
> 
> Marty
> 
> ---
>     Try: http://rom-o-matic.net/ to make Etherboot images instantly.
> 
>    Name: Martin D. Connor
> US Mail: Entity Cyber, Inc.; P.O. Box 391827; Cambridge, MA 02139; USA
>   Voice: (617) 491-6935, Fax: (617) 491-7046 
>   Email: md...@th...
>     Web: http://www.thinguin.org/
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> 
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:50:33 -0500
> From: Jim McQuillan <jam@McQuil.com>
> To: Thomas Lorenzen <tl...@th...>
> CC: eth...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Etherboot-users] Detection of append statements
> 
> Thomas,
> 
> In your dhcpd.conf file on your server, you should be
> able to put a line like this:
> 
>   option option-129  "mem=256m";
> 
> The bootrom will retrieve that option from dhcp, and then pass
> it onto the kernel as it boots.
> 
> Hope that helps,
> Jim McQuillan
> ja...@lt...
> 
> Thomas Lorenzen wrote:
> > 
> >      Hi'
> > 
> >    I have a couple of machines booting via the net using the
> > lilo facility of etherboot. However, even though the
> > machines have 256MB memory, only 64MB memory are detected.
> > Including an 'append = "mem=256M"' line in the lilo.conf
> > file does not seem to help. I know the --append option to
> > mknbi-linux, but these machines are just a part of a
> > computing cluster, and thus I would like to have the same
> > tagged linux kernel file for all the machines instead of
> > having a different tagged linux kernel file for each amount
> > of memory I have in each machine.
> > 
> >    Would anybody know, if it is somehow possible to transfer
> > the append statement from the etherboot booting process to
> > the linux kernel.
> > 
> >    Thanks for any help in advance.
> > 
> >    Best Regards.
> > 
> >      Thomas.
> > 
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Cand. Scient. Thomas Lorenzen               Phone : (+ 45) 35 32 02 50
> > Department of Chemistry                       Fax : (+ 45) 35 32 02 59
> > University of Copenhagen                     Mail : tl...@th...
> > DK, 2100 Copenhagen, Denmark   Homepage : http://theochem.ki.ku.dk/~tl
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/etherboot-users
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:55:59 +0100 (CET)
> From: Thomas Lorenzen <tl...@th...>
> To: Jim McQuillan <jam@McQuil.com>
> cc: eth...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Etherboot-users] Detection of append statements
> 
>      Hi'
> 
> On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Jim McQuillan wrote:
> 
> >>> In your dhcpd.conf file on your server, you should be
> >>> able to put a line like this:
> >>> 
> >>>   option option-129  "mem=256m";
> >>> 
> >>> The bootrom will retrieve that option from dhcp, and then pass
> >>> it onto the kernel as it boots.
> 
>    I am a bit old fasioned, so I am using the bootp
> protocol. Would you by any chance know, if the above
> construct is also possible using the bootp protocol, and
> what would the construct be in that case.
> 
>    The mentioned machines are equipped with 3com 3c905b
> network interface cards.
> 
>    Best Regards.
> 
>      Thomas.
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Cand. Scient. Thomas Lorenzen               Phone : (+ 45) 35 32 02 50
> Department of Chemistry                       Fax : (+ 45) 35 32 02 59
> University of Copenhagen                     Mail : tl...@th...
> DK, 2100 Copenhagen, Denmark   Homepage : http://theochem.ki.ku.dk/~tl
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:58:25 -0500
> From: Jim McQuillan <jam@McQuil.com>
> To: Thomas Lorenzen <tl...@th...>
> CC: eth...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Etherboot-users] Detection of append statements
> 
> Thomas,
> 
> In the case of bootp, I think the proper syntax would be:
> 
>   :T129="mem=256m":
> 
> Jim.
> 
> Thomas Lorenzen wrote:
> > 
> >      Hi'
> > 
> > On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Jim McQuillan wrote:
> > 
> > >>> In your dhcpd.conf file on your server, you should be
> > >>> able to put a line like this:
> > >>>
> > >>>   option option-129  "mem=256m";
> > >>>
> > >>> The bootrom will retrieve that option from dhcp, and then pass
> > >>> it onto the kernel as it boots.
> > 
> >    I am a bit old fasioned, so I am using the bootp
> > protocol. Would you by any chance know, if the above
> > construct is also possible using the bootp protocol, and
> > what would the construct be in that case.
> > 
> >    The mentioned machines are equipped with 3com 3c905b
> > network interface cards.
> > 
> >    Best Regards.
> > 
> >      Thomas.
> > 
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Cand. Scient. Thomas Lorenzen               Phone : (+ 45) 35 32 02 50
> > Department of Chemistry                       Fax : (+ 45) 35 32 02 59
> > University of Copenhagen                     Mail : tl...@th...
> > DK, 2100 Copenhagen, Denmark   Homepage : http://theochem.ki.ku.dk/~tl
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:03:26 +0100 (CET)
> From: Thomas Lorenzen <tl...@th...>
> To: Jim McQuillan <jam@McQuil.com>
> cc: eth...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Etherboot-users] Detection of append statements
> 
>      Hi'
> 
> On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Jim McQuillan wrote:
> 
> >>> In the case of bootp, I think the proper syntax would be:
> >>> 
> >>>   :T129="mem=256m":
> 
>    Ok, I will try that. Could I ask, from where you know,
> that 129 is the correct number to use. Would you know of any
> documentation on the net, which I should read.
> 
>    Thanks for your help so far.
> 
>    Best Regards.
> 
>      Thomas.
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Cand. Scient. Thomas Lorenzen               Phone : (+ 45) 35 32 02 50
> Department of Chemistry                       Fax : (+ 45) 35 32 02 59
> University of Copenhagen                     Mail : tl...@th...
> DK, 2100 Copenhagen, Denmark   Homepage : http://theochem.ki.ku.dk/~tl
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:07:24 -0500
> From: Jim McQuillan <jam@McQuil.com>
> To: Thomas Lorenzen <tl...@th...>
> CC: eth...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Etherboot-users] Detection of append statements
> 
> Thomas,
> 
> Sorry, I don't know of any docs.  I found it deep in the source
> of mknbi-linux.  It's in an assembly language routine that I had
> some trouble with, so I had to go digging.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jim.
> 
> Thomas Lorenzen wrote:
> > 
> >      Hi'
> > 
> > On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Jim McQuillan wrote:
> > 
> > >>> In the case of bootp, I think the proper syntax would be:
> > >>>
> > >>>   :T129="mem=256m":
> > 
> >    Ok, I will try that. Could I ask, from where you know,
> > that 129 is the correct number to use. Would you know of any
> > documentation on the net, which I should read.
> > 
> >    Thanks for your help so far.
> > 
> >    Best Regards.
> > 
> >      Thomas.
> > 
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Cand. Scient. Thomas Lorenzen               Phone : (+ 45) 35 32 02 50
> > Department of Chemistry                       Fax : (+ 45) 35 32 02 59
> > University of Copenhagen                     Mail : tl...@th...
> > DK, 2100 Copenhagen, Denmark   Homepage : http://theochem.ki.ku.dk/~tl
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:30:20 +0100 (CET)
> From: Thomas Lorenzen <tl...@th...>
> To: Jim McQuillan <jam@McQuil.com>, Marty Connor <md...@th...>
> cc: eth...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Etherboot-users] Detection of append statements
> 
>      Hi'
> 
> On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Jim McQuillan wrote:
> 
> >>> In the case of bootp, I think the proper syntax would be:
> >>> 
> >>>   :T129="mem=256m":
> 
>    I just went down in the basement to try it out, and
> voila, it just worked. Just adding the :T129="mem=256m":
> statement to the appropriate lines in /etc/bootptab did the
> job.
> 
>    Thanks for your help.
> 
>    Best Regards.
> 
>      Thomas.
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Cand. Scient. Thomas Lorenzen               Phone : (+ 45) 35 32 02 50
> Department of Chemistry                       Fax : (+ 45) 35 32 02 59
> University of Copenhagen                     Mail : tl...@th...
> DK, 2100 Copenhagen, Denmark   Homepage : http://theochem.ki.ku.dk/~tl
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 12
> From: "Dave Stubbs" <d_s...@ho...>
> To: <eth...@li...>
> Subject: Re: [Etherboot-users] Re: A Request - Next Server 0.0.0.0
> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:02:02 -0500
> 
> If "the project" would value this kind of contribution - no problem.  I'd be
> happy to.
> 
> Let me know.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Yap" <ke...@nl...>
> To: "Dave Stubbs" <d_s...@ho...>
> Cc: <eth...@li...>
> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 6:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [Etherboot-users] Re: A Request - Next Server 0.0.0.0
> 
> 
> > >As to your "(why would we??)" question - simple.  Many MANY corporate
> > >environments are running NT and going to Win2000.  Many others are
> currently
> > >running Netware.  The lure of a global directory for a company running NT
> > >makes Win2000 a holy grail.  For better or for worse, all these wonderful
> > >projects like Etherboot and Netboot should be integrated and tested with
> > >Win2000 as well as Linux.  If you only make it work with Linux, it will
> > >remain an academic curiosity.
> >
> > I take it you are volunteering to document what you have done and
> > contribute this to the project?
> >
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:32:16 -0500
> From: Richard June <rj...@im...>
> To: Marty Connor <md...@th...>
> CC: Etherboot Developers <eth...@li...>,
>         Etherboot Users <eth...@li...>
> Subject: Re: [Etherboot-users] RH7 glibc update
> 
> Far as I know there was only one release of RH7, I s'pose there could be 
> a SP1 or some such, but that's just silly.
> Anyway, rpm -Uhv --force --nodeps <rpm> will install every RPM I've come 
> across. let me know how that works.
> 
> Marty Connor wrote:
> 
> > So I'm about this '' close to chucking RH7 and using another distribution 
> > to demo at LinuxWorld Expo.
> > 
> > I just installed a virgin copy of RH7 on a machine and started to apply 
> > all the package updates, and it now tells me that it can't update glibc 
> > because I don't have the correct previous version.  I've tried --force 
> > and other flags, but it won't do the upgrade.
> > 
> > I suspect that the version on the RH7 CD is too old to upgrade to the one 
> > they have on their FTP site, but the intermediate versions were buggy so 
> > they seem to have deleted them from their web site.
> > 
> > Has anyone else seen this?  Progeny (www.progeny.com) is looking might 
> > good about now...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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