From: <ra...@ra...> - 2001-02-19 17:20:50
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On 19 Feb, Andrew Shugg scribbled: -> Teh Ratserman said: -> > On 18 Feb, Michael Jennings scribbled: -> > -> You totally missed my point. It is in opposition to the novice's best -> > -> interest, not in line with it. -> > -> > IMHO i disagree - this would be good for the novice. -> -> I think I understand your reasoning but I am in agreeance with Michael; -> basically if this thing is enabled by default and the user doesn't know -> about it, then they may well have a bugger of a time trying to work out -> why their friend's menu has a certain doodad on it and theirs doesn't, -> even though they've both got the same stuff installed. their stuff will be in a different spot (moved down a submenu) it will be there - but re-rranged so the common stuff is where it normally is and the not so sommon stuff is in a submenu... ie: menu entry 1 menu entry 2 .... > seldom used entry 3 seldom used entry 4 seldom used entry 5 at least thats what i was thinking... -> I think that the real question (or problem) however is not what the -> defaults are, but that the user is somehow _told_ what they are, and -> they know that they have the power to change them. =) -> -> I feel that the default menu mode should able to be set at compile-time -> (ie something like --enable-menuhiding-bydefault and --disable-menu...). -> The debconf system with the Debian packages would also make it very easy -> for this sort of system-wide default to be set at install time. there should never be compile time options - ever - if ever possible. they should only be there if forced on us by the situation - and not by choice. the default config files may or may not have it enabled - but no compile time options. -> Is E17 going to have a "helpful tip" on startup like the Gimp, KDE, and -> many other things? If so, this would provide a helpful and simple means -> of explaining about the menu hiding and various other things. Is this -> where edox2 is going to be perhaps? (Whatever happened to that boris, -> did you kill it? *g*) helpful tip- dunno - that would imply we have the time to write up a decent set of helpful tips before release. some stuff may just have to wait for E 0.18 :( -- --------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ra...@ra... ra...@va... ra...@en... ra...@li... ra...@zi... |