Re: [E-devel] Edje 3D support?

[Carsten H. (T. R. <ra...@ra...>]

On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 23:19:35 +0200 Andreas Volz <li...@br...> said:

> Am Tue, 13 Apr 2010 12:57:26 -0800 schrieb Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri:
> 
> > > This is really great! I'm very near at the EFL development, but
> > > missed any news or blog entries about the 3D support. Even not on
> > > the website, this was the reason why I asked here.
> > >
> > > We should really do better public relations about such great
> > > features. Without knowledge about this nobody could use them. :-(
> > 
> > Yes, that's a common problem with us... we lack different skills in
> > the project, I'm trying to help with my company, but we need more.
> > 
> > See rasterman's case. He does the majority of high-performance and
> > critical code, then he is the one that does most of the theme... does
> > good amount of Elementary, does the official news and videos...
> > release of official tarballs, testing and quality assurance :-) I
> > guess he just don't do translations :-D
> > 
> > My company is contributing to Editje, Edje and Elementary. As soon as
> > Raster does a braindump of his theme improvement ideas we should
> > contribute these improvements as well. Probably we'll help with some
> > community management soon.
> > 
> > But as I said, we need more. We need people to:
> >    - testers to report bugs to mail list
> >    - people to help fix the reported bugs
> >    - some presets and improvements to the e17 wizard, so the first
> > time experience is as good as possible. For instance we lack "Gnome"
> > and "Kde" profiles with their keyboard shortcuts and other settings
> > like focus policy.
> >    - blog about it in a good way, to attract more users and developers
> 
> I think for these people profiles (testers, bug reporters, bloggers) we
> would need an EFL/E17 release so that the big distributions have
> packages for it.
> 
> Yes, I know big work is ongoing to reach the first E17 release. But
> I'll tell you my opinion about the release schedule. I use E17 with
> Ubuntu 8.04 on my work pc. I run an ~15 month old E17 from SVN and
> couldn't update to a newer one because of some reason. In my feelings
> E17 is still stable enough. I can't remember the last E17 crash on this
> system.

stability will vary - but yes. e17 is solid crash-wise mostly. it has niggly
bugs tho - icon dnd doesn't work on desktop now (for some unknown reason) and
there are lots of niggly bugs here and there.

one thing we do indeed lack is publicity handling. for example. i can spend an
hour writing up an article on some new code i added, or spend an hour on the
next bit of code. i tend to mostly lean to spending time on the next bit of
code. i did blog about the 3d stuff in evas - rasterman.com had it - videos
too. but not announced on e's lists/

i've mentioned this many times - but what i'd dearly love is somehow who was
maybe partly involved in development - but only in small bits so they don't
have their time soaked up, but they can read svn logs, commits, and actually
test, try and look at new things put in. read the new api's (see the svn diffs)
and look for test apps/code or maybe write some test apps/demos - then write
news articles on them. (in english) and post to e-develop/users, put up news
items on e.org, submit to phoronix, osnews, digg, reddit, slashdot etc. etc. -
frankly... we may need more than 1 person doing this. this would be awesome. a
"technical marketing" thing - i.e. you actually can and do code, but you do the
above kind of stuff. :)

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