Re: eim (was: Re: [E-devel] Are the EFL ready?)

[joel v. <joe...@gm...>]

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 23:41:19 +0100, Holger Dell
<enl...@ho...> wrote:
> hi,
> 
> (eim = enlightenment instant messenger)?
> 
> > About the modularity of the backend, i'm agree with you that it should
> > be modular.   But one thing at a time :p
> 
> right. but modularity has to start at the very beginning ;)
Sure :p 
 
> > About express, it seems interesting, in fact i'm really poor in
> > frontend ... so it's a good occasion to gather ours efforts.
> 
> I agree and I am keen on having a good instant messenger.
> 'good' includes for me:
> 
> * pretty and themeable layout (something like transparent message boxes,
> similar to erss, enlightenments rss-reader)
Ok for me

> * configurability (like micq or something like that. this would include
> a full control interface for external programs or scripts to be able to
> access incoming messages in realtime)
totally agree

> * modularity (it would be very nice, if this went so far, that you could
> even use a command-line frontend instead of a gui. this would probably
> merge with the interface for external programs.)
Exactly my think

> * easy and quick configurability (with one to three clicks instead of
> editing huge config files; especially concerning the organization of the
> buddy list)
We are on the same road

> * it should support at least icq and better also aim.
> where is jabber used?
Maybe here is the war :p In fact, why i want jabber protocol instead
of other, it's because the first of all is that Jabber is free, there
is rfc about this protocol and you can get all information you want
about this protocol. Another thing, is that i want use this eim :p as
a test platform developpment for JEPS. I think the question is why you
used icq or aim, it's because all the mainstream use these protocol ?
My opinion is that jabber propose passerel to aim and icq and i'musing
jabber this many years and i've got never problem with it. It's right
that for now, there is no implementation of the voice support but we
will can do it (i wish). So my question is  why not suggest other
people to used the jabber protocol ? It's why and it's my think about
the choice of the jabber protocol.

> > I've not lots of time because i'm phd student but i'm very interesting
> > to create an IM supporting the Jabber protocol.
> 
> for me it's the very same, i suppose.
Ok nice :p
> 
> > So if you're interested and motivated we should create a mailing list
> > and why not a little website to do the roadmap.
> 
> sounds great! who will do it?
Hehe, it seems that it the start of a new project :p, ok i can create
on my website (i must take some time to create it) or if you want we
create a project on sourceforge or whatever you want.

You can send me your icq number to my personal mail, in this way we
can make the choice without any polution for this mailing list.

> >>Take a look at the code in cvs. its fairly clean, and takes care of
> >>some of the basic interface needs (representing buddies, conversations,
> >>and messages).
> 
> I tried it out, but I was unable to start a (fake) conversation.
>
> perhaps we should think of speaking with authors of other instant
> messengers, as we could learn from their experience.
It can be a solution, but i've already check the code of different im. 
 
> holger.

Jol