From: First L. <cha...@ho...> - 2007-03-22 19:00:51
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I have no problem with you choosing a SCM you like. You should, however, make the source available to people. Easily. >From: "Jerome Glisse" <j.g...@gm...> >To: "First Last" <cha...@ho...> >CC: dri...@li... >Subject: Re: [Dri-users] Why GIT, guys? Really... >Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:40:57 +0100 > >On 3/22/07, First Last <cha...@ho...> wrote: >>That port isn't getting opened up. It should use port 80 like everything >>else can. >> >>I read the subversion paragraph and it still makes no sense: >> >>Multiple backends are not a bad thing, regardless of you how you try an >>spin >>it. The closest a concrete reason against subversion that ever comes up is >>that he doesn't like the filesystem backend because he doesn't understand >>it >>and then goes off on a rant about how that could be bad over NFS. (Noone >>runs a subversion repository that fronts an NFS drive.) >> >>There's never any citation from Mozilla saying, you know SVN is really big >>and that is bad. In fact, there are several citations out there you can >>find >>that will explain why that was a good choice. Guess what - works over >>firewalls is one of the things that they like. I never read about >>kernel.org >>tipping over either from not using GIT. Strange actually that GIT isn't >>even >>in the top 5 SCM systems used on planet earth... I mean its just so great >> >>If you really care that much about the number of files or size of them, >>you >>could plugin another backend! Wait a second... this might be crazy but, if >>you think the google backend is too slow you plugin a caching backend that >>wraps googles! Now this gets really crazy, but if you still think thats >>not >>reliable enough - you could plugin a backend that decorates another with >>some checksums, writes to an additional location. But come on, its crazy, >>this multiple backend stuff ... I mean, what is the world coming to. What >>if >>someone wrote an interface that would provide some abstraction over >>multiple >>kinds of graphics hardware backends... why, that's just nuts! Madness I >>tell >>you! >> >>Ultimately, Keith just picked something he liked and didn't really >>consider >>things like usability. He just decided he liked GIT. > >I don't have time to argue on all this, i am using cvs, svn and git on >daily basis and i loose more time with svn and cvs than with git. >Last point i think most of the main xorg, mesa, dri, ... dev like git a >lot more than others scm, let them choose the scm they like >so they can concentrate on actual work. > >Just hope you can find your way to get the source. > >best, >Jerome Glisse > >> >> >From: "Jerome Glisse" <j.g...@gm...> >> >To: "First Last" <cha...@ho...> >> >CC: dri...@li... >> >Subject: Re: [Dri-users] Why GIT, guys? Really... >> >Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:57:13 +0100 >> > >> >On 3/22/07, First Last <cha...@ho...> wrote: >> >>Well, I have no problems with CVS or SVN and I can do nothing about my >> >>firewall. >> >>How can I get the source? There are no tar balls any more. It just >>seems >> >>insane that I can get every other source on the planet, X's, Gnomes's, >>all >> >>of the base libraries, etc - but not Mesa. >> > >> >git clone http://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/mesa/drm >> >Should work even behind a firewall. Btw git use port 9418 >> >you may want to ask to your admin to allow that one. >> > >> >>(BTW, in keiths posts he never makes on concrete argument against using >> >>something sane like SVN. He mentions a lot of problems w/ CVS solved by >> >>SVN >> >>and later just says, its apparent that SVN isn't the answer for me ... >> >>which >> >>would be WHY?) >> > >> >You apparently missed the paragraph on subversion (which is svn). >> > >> >best, >> >Jerome Glisse >> > >> >> >From: "Jerome Glisse" <j.g...@gm...> >> >> >To: "First Last" <cha...@ho...> >> >> >CC: dri...@li... >> >> >Subject: Re: [Dri-users] Why GIT, guys? Really... >> >> >Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:37:37 +0100 >> >> > >> >> >On 3/22/07, First Last <cha...@ho...> wrote: >> >> >>Can anyone tell me how I'm supposed to get the source which is now >> >>behind >> >> >>GIT? >> >> >> >> >> >>$ git clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/mesa/drm >> >> >>defaulting to local storage area >> >> >>warning: templates not found /home/dag/share/git-core/templates/ >> >> >>fatal: unable to connect a socket (Connection refused) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I guess someone decided the standard CVS & SVN was too well >>know/tested >> >>so >> >> >>they chose GIT >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >I believe you are behind some strange firewall or that you got >> >> >a too old git. The same command works perfectly for me on >> >> >several computers. >> >> > >> >> >Btw, i think git is among best free code repository system out there. >> >> >Keith did give a good overview why : >> >> >http://keithp.com/blog/Repository_Formats_Matter.html >> >> >http://keithp.com/blog/Tyrannical_SCM_selection.html >> >> > >> >> >best, >> >> >Jerome Glisse >> >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >> >>i'm making a difference.Make every IM count for the cause of your >>choice. >> >>Join Now. >> >>http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0080000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=hmtagline >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>Take Surveys. Earn Cash. 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