From: Michael F. <fuz...@vo...> - 2009-02-08 13:51:23
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Hello guys, I wonder what the status of the S5 support in docutils is? Some of the directives (particularly the ones that change font size) don't work with recent versions of S5 (which look better in my opinion). The latest versions also have some features not supported by docutils (can't remember off the top of my head what they are - can look it up). I assume this area of the code hasn't been worked on for a while? Just wondering if 'you' were aware of this, or whether it was a conscious decision not to support the latest versions. All the best, Michael Foord -- http://www.ironpythoninaction.com/ http://www.voidspace.org.uk/blog |
From: David G. <go...@py...> - 2009-02-08 14:49:55
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On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 08:51, Michael Foord <fuz...@vo...> wrote: > I wonder what the status of the S5 support in docutils is? It works fine with the Docutils-supplied S5 files. > Some of the directives (particularly the ones that change font size) > don't work with recent versions of S5 (which look better in my opinion). By "directives", do you mean the text size classes (http://docutils.sourceforge.net/docs/user/slide-shows.html#classes-text-size)? They will only work if the underlying stylesheet supports them. I'm not aware of any other problems. > The latest versions also have some features not supported by docutils > (can't remember off the top of my head what they are - can look it up). Specifics would be nice. :-) Specifically, which specific "latest version" are you talking about? AFAIK there is no canonical latest, but several competing (and unmaintained) derivatives of the original. Which one is *the* S5? > I assume this area of the code hasn't been worked on for a while? Just > wondering if 'you' were aware of this, or whether it was a conscious > decision not to support the latest versions. I'm aware of some of the derivative versions, probably not all the variations though. I haven't touched the Docutils/S5 code in a while, as the existing code does what I want. Also, the derivative versions of S5 introduce incompatibilities and licensing issues (i.e., non-PD libraries). -- David Goodger <http://python.net/~goodger> |
From: Michael F. <fuz...@vo...> - 2009-02-08 14:53:05
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David Goodger wrote: > On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 08:51, Michael Foord <fuz...@vo...> wrote: > >> I wonder what the status of the S5 support in docutils is? >> > > It works fine with the Docutils-supplied S5 files. > Thanks David. I got the 'latest' version of S5 from Eric Meyer - who AFAIK is the creator of S5. I'll try again and provide specifics of: * Source of S5 and version * Features that no longer work * New features that are unsupported Thanks for the quick response. Michael > >> Some of the directives (particularly the ones that change font size) >> don't work with recent versions of S5 (which look better in my opinion). >> > > By "directives", do you mean the text size classes > (http://docutils.sourceforge.net/docs/user/slide-shows.html#classes-text-size)? > They will only work if the underlying stylesheet supports them. I'm > not aware of any other problems. > > >> The latest versions also have some features not supported by docutils >> (can't remember off the top of my head what they are - can look it up). >> > > Specifics would be nice. :-) > > Specifically, which specific "latest version" are you talking about? > AFAIK there is no canonical latest, but several competing (and > unmaintained) derivatives of the original. Which one is *the* S5? > > >> I assume this area of the code hasn't been worked on for a while? Just >> wondering if 'you' were aware of this, or whether it was a conscious >> decision not to support the latest versions. >> > > I'm aware of some of the derivative versions, probably not all the > variations though. > > I haven't touched the Docutils/S5 code in a while, as the existing > code does what I want. Also, the derivative versions of S5 introduce > incompatibilities and licensing issues (i.e., non-PD libraries). > > -- http://www.ironpythoninaction.com/ http://www.voidspace.org.uk/blog |
From: Michael F. <fuz...@vo...> - 2009-03-14 18:34:14
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Michael Foord wrote: > David Goodger wrote: > >> On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 08:51, Michael Foord <fuz...@vo...> wrote: >> >> >>> I wonder what the status of the S5 support in docutils is? >>> >>> >> It works fine with the Docutils-supplied S5 files. >> >> > Thanks David. > > I got the 'latest' version of S5 from Eric Meyer - who AFAIK is the > creator of S5. > > I'll try again and provide specifics of: > > * Source of S5 and version > Eric Meyer - both versions 1.1 and 1.2a2 http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/ > * Features that no longer work > Text size, alignment and color. Size is the most problematic. > * New features that are unsupported > Click on the three bars in the bottom right of the page (by the page selector) and it brings up a popup that brings up notes for the page. Notes marked handout in the original rest don't appear as notes on this page. Michael > Thanks for the quick response. > > Michael > > >> >> >>> Some of the directives (particularly the ones that change font size) >>> don't work with recent versions of S5 (which look better in my opinion). >>> >>> >> By "directives", do you mean the text size classes >> (http://docutils.sourceforge.net/docs/user/slide-shows.html#classes-text-size)? >> They will only work if the underlying stylesheet supports them. I'm >> not aware of any other problems. >> >> >> >>> The latest versions also have some features not supported by docutils >>> (can't remember off the top of my head what they are - can look it up). >>> >>> >> Specifics would be nice. :-) >> >> Specifically, which specific "latest version" are you talking about? >> AFAIK there is no canonical latest, but several competing (and >> unmaintained) derivatives of the original. Which one is *the* S5? >> >> >> >>> I assume this area of the code hasn't been worked on for a while? Just >>> wondering if 'you' were aware of this, or whether it was a conscious >>> decision not to support the latest versions. >>> >>> >> I'm aware of some of the derivative versions, probably not all the >> variations though. >> >> I haven't touched the Docutils/S5 code in a while, as the existing >> code does what I want. Also, the derivative versions of S5 introduce >> incompatibilities and licensing issues (i.e., non-PD libraries). >> >> >> > > > -- http://www.ironpythoninaction.com/ http://www.voidspace.org.uk/blog |
From: David G. <go...@py...> - 2009-03-14 18:59:35
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On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 14:34, Michael Foord <fuz...@vo...> wrote: > Michael Foord wrote: >> I got the 'latest' version of S5 from Eric Meyer - who AFAIK is the >> creator of S5. Eric Meyer created S5, but no longer maintains it. There are several off-shoots of S5, all newer than 1.2a2, and all (AFAIK) dormant or stillborn. I know of no active development branch. >> I'll try again and provide specifics of: >> >> * Source of S5 and version > > Eric Meyer - both versions 1.1 and 1.2a2 > > http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/ 1.1 is what comes with Docutils. Everything should still work just fine with it as-is. 1.2a2 made some changes and needs development work on the Docutils end. I never did anything with it because of the "a2" and the off-shoots. >> * Features that no longer work > > Text size, alignment and color. Size is the most problematic. Using which version? If 1.2a2, sorry, that's not supported by Docutils. >> * New features that are unsupported > > Click on the three bars in the bottom right of the page (by the page > selector) and it brings up a popup that brings up notes for the page. > Notes marked handout in the original rest don't appear as notes on this > page. In 1.2a2, I presume? Again, not supported. If you want 1.2a2 to be supported, someone has to make the necessary changes. I don't have the time or inclination right now. -- David Goodger <http://python.net/~goodger> |
From: Michael F. <fuz...@vo...> - 2009-03-14 21:44:45
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David Goodger wrote: > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 14:34, Michael Foord <fuz...@vo...> wrote: > >> Michael Foord wrote: >> >>> I got the 'latest' version of S5 from Eric Meyer - who AFAIK is the >>> creator of S5. >>> > > Eric Meyer created S5, but no longer maintains it. There are several > off-shoots of S5, all newer than 1.2a2, and all (AFAIK) dormant or > stillborn. I know of no active development branch. > > >>> I'll try again and provide specifics of: >>> >>> * Source of S5 and version >>> >> Eric Meyer - both versions 1.1 and 1.2a2 >> >> http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/ >> > > 1.1 is what comes with Docutils. Everything should still work just > fine with it as-is. > > 1.2a2 made some changes and needs development work on the Docutils > end. I never did anything with it because of the "a2" and the > off-shoots. > Hmmm... I've been having some issues with a vanilla 1.1 from the meyer site. I have the right css but must be doing something else wrong. I'll investigate further. Thanks Michael > >>> * Features that no longer work >>> >> Text size, alignment and color. Size is the most problematic. >> > > Using which version? If 1.2a2, sorry, that's not supported by Docutils. > > >>> * New features that are unsupported >>> >> Click on the three bars in the bottom right of the page (by the page >> selector) and it brings up a popup that brings up notes for the page. >> Notes marked handout in the original rest don't appear as notes on this >> page. >> > > In 1.2a2, I presume? Again, not supported. > > If you want 1.2a2 to be supported, someone has to make the necessary > changes. I don't have the time or inclination right now. > > -- http://www.ironpythoninaction.com/ http://www.voidspace.org.uk/blog |
From: David G. <go...@py...> - 2009-03-15 01:44:53
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On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 17:44, Michael Foord <fuz...@vo...> wrote: > Hmmm... I've been having some issues with a vanilla 1.1 from the meyer site. > I have the right css but must be doing something else wrong. I'll > investigate further. Why not use the S5 1.1 that comes with (and is installed by) Docutils? It works. I made some changes (beyond cosmetic) to the S5 stylesheets to work with Docutils. I don't think I made any chances to the JavaScript, but I'm not certain. You can use diff to see. -- David Goodger <http://python.net/~goodger> |
From: Michael F. <fuz...@vo...> - 2009-05-06 22:53:38
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David Goodger wrote: > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 17:44, Michael Foord <fuz...@vo...> wrote: > >> Hmmm... I've been having some issues with a vanilla 1.1 from the meyer site. >> I have the right css but must be doing something else wrong. I'll >> investigate further. >> > > Why not use the S5 1.1 that comes with (and is installed by) Docutils? It works. > > I was trying to use the default theme that comes with 1.1 which I think looks slightly nicer. I can see now that S5 includes a mechanism for specifying the theme without having to replace all the libraries so I'll try that. All the best, Michael Foord > I made some changes (beyond cosmetic) to the S5 stylesheets to work > with Docutils. I don't think I made any chances to the JavaScript, but > I'm not certain. You can use diff to see. > > -- http://www.ironpythoninaction.com/ http://www.voidspace.org.uk/blog |