From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2012-07-05 09:47:27
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RFEs item #3540409, was opened at 2012-07-05 02:47 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by tom_schr You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=384107&aid=3540409&group_id=21935 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: DocBook XML Group: v5.1 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Thomas Schraitle (tom_schr) Assigned to: Norman Walsh (nwalsh) Summary: Extending function Attribute for keycap Element Initial Comment: According to the TDG[1], keycap contains some values to markup "special" keys. For example, function="control" maps to the control key (written as "Ctrl" for an English keyboard[2]). However, there is no distinction between "Alt" (left alt key) and "Alt Gr" (right alt key). Furthermore, there is also no difference between "return" and "enter". Here are some reasons why I think the schema should be extended to support these values: * Consistency: It is much more consistent to write <keycap function="alt"/> or <keycap function="altgr"/> and rely on the DocBook stylesheets to do the right thing. * Language Support: Some keyboards could name the "Alt Gr" key differently than in English. * Translation: Translators doesn't have to know how to translate a key (although I would assume a translator e.g. from English to German would know the German key names, but I think, it safer to bother them with this minor details and improve consistency.) * Layout: "Exotic" keys can be mapped to a image during processing. * Validation: Having a list of possible values makes it easier to spot errors. I know, there is the “other” value in function and the otherfunction attribute to markup even more exotic keys. However, I think, the above distinction is such a basic thing that it should be included in DocBook. Maybe the committee thinks about adding this feature not only to DocBook v5.x but also to version 4.5. Thanks. ---- References [1] http://www.docbook.org/tdg5/en/html/keycap.html [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Qwerty.svg ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=384107&aid=3540409&group_id=21935 |
From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2012-11-14 17:27:09
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RFEs item #3540409, was opened at 2012-07-05 02:47 Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by nwalsh You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=384107&aid=3540409&group_id=21935 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: DocBook XML Group: v5.1 Status: Open >Resolution: Accepted Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Thomas Schraitle (tom_schr) Assigned to: Norman Walsh (nwalsh) Summary: Extending function Attribute for keycap Element Initial Comment: According to the TDG[1], keycap contains some values to markup "special" keys. For example, function="control" maps to the control key (written as "Ctrl" for an English keyboard[2]). However, there is no distinction between "Alt" (left alt key) and "Alt Gr" (right alt key). Furthermore, there is also no difference between "return" and "enter". Here are some reasons why I think the schema should be extended to support these values: * Consistency: It is much more consistent to write <keycap function="alt"/> or <keycap function="altgr"/> and rely on the DocBook stylesheets to do the right thing. * Language Support: Some keyboards could name the "Alt Gr" key differently than in English. * Translation: Translators doesn't have to know how to translate a key (although I would assume a translator e.g. from English to German would know the German key names, but I think, it safer to bother them with this minor details and improve consistency.) * Layout: "Exotic" keys can be mapped to a image during processing. * Validation: Having a list of possible values makes it easier to spot errors. I know, there is the “other” value in function and the otherfunction attribute to markup even more exotic keys. However, I think, the above distinction is such a basic thing that it should be included in DocBook. Maybe the committee thinks about adding this feature not only to DocBook v5.x but also to version 4.5. Thanks. ---- References [1] http://www.docbook.org/tdg5/en/html/keycap.html [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Qwerty.svg ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Norman Walsh (nwalsh) Date: 2012-11-14 09:27 Message: Fixed for 5.1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=384107&aid=3540409&group_id=21935 |
From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2012-11-14 19:20:26
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RFEs item #3540409, was opened at 2012-07-05 02:47 Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by nwalsh You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=384107&aid=3540409&group_id=21935 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: DocBook XML Group: v5.1 Status: Open >Resolution: Fixed Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Thomas Schraitle (tom_schr) Assigned to: Norman Walsh (nwalsh) Summary: Extending function Attribute for keycap Element Initial Comment: According to the TDG[1], keycap contains some values to markup "special" keys. For example, function="control" maps to the control key (written as "Ctrl" for an English keyboard[2]). However, there is no distinction between "Alt" (left alt key) and "Alt Gr" (right alt key). Furthermore, there is also no difference between "return" and "enter". Here are some reasons why I think the schema should be extended to support these values: * Consistency: It is much more consistent to write <keycap function="alt"/> or <keycap function="altgr"/> and rely on the DocBook stylesheets to do the right thing. * Language Support: Some keyboards could name the "Alt Gr" key differently than in English. * Translation: Translators doesn't have to know how to translate a key (although I would assume a translator e.g. from English to German would know the German key names, but I think, it safer to bother them with this minor details and improve consistency.) * Layout: "Exotic" keys can be mapped to a image during processing. * Validation: Having a list of possible values makes it easier to spot errors. I know, there is the “other” value in function and the otherfunction attribute to markup even more exotic keys. However, I think, the above distinction is such a basic thing that it should be included in DocBook. Maybe the committee thinks about adding this feature not only to DocBook v5.x but also to version 4.5. Thanks. ---- References [1] http://www.docbook.org/tdg5/en/html/keycap.html [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Qwerty.svg ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Norman Walsh (nwalsh) Date: 2012-11-14 09:27 Message: Fixed for 5.1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=384107&aid=3540409&group_id=21935 |
From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2013-02-19 00:36:41
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RFEs item #3540409, was opened at 2012-07-05 02:47 Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by bobstayton You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=384107&aid=3540409&group_id=21935 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: DocBook XML Group: v5.1 >Status: Closed Resolution: Fixed Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Thomas Schraitle (tom_schr) Assigned to: Norman Walsh (nwalsh) Summary: Extending function Attribute for keycap Element Initial Comment: According to the TDG[1], keycap contains some values to markup "special" keys. For example, function="control" maps to the control key (written as "Ctrl" for an English keyboard[2]). However, there is no distinction between "Alt" (left alt key) and "Alt Gr" (right alt key). Furthermore, there is also no difference between "return" and "enter". Here are some reasons why I think the schema should be extended to support these values: * Consistency: It is much more consistent to write <keycap function="alt"/> or <keycap function="altgr"/> and rely on the DocBook stylesheets to do the right thing. * Language Support: Some keyboards could name the "Alt Gr" key differently than in English. * Translation: Translators doesn't have to know how to translate a key (although I would assume a translator e.g. from English to German would know the German key names, but I think, it safer to bother them with this minor details and improve consistency.) * Layout: "Exotic" keys can be mapped to a image during processing. * Validation: Having a list of possible values makes it easier to spot errors. I know, there is the “other” value in function and the otherfunction attribute to markup even more exotic keys. However, I think, the above distinction is such a basic thing that it should be included in DocBook. Maybe the committee thinks about adding this feature not only to DocBook v5.x but also to version 4.5. Thanks. ---- References [1] http://www.docbook.org/tdg5/en/html/keycap.html [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Qwerty.svg ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Norman Walsh (nwalsh) Date: 2012-11-14 09:27 Message: Fixed for 5.1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=384107&aid=3540409&group_id=21935 |