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From: Luke M. <ml...@ea...> - 2005-07-11 02:03:53
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List,
I'm glad to see that everything went well while I was gone. I
returned from San Jose on the 6th. I thank you for all of your comments
and emails over those ten days. Tonight, I officially retake control
over the ConjuGNU project (isn't it nice to have some time off?). Be on
the lookout for information on elections and other exciting things in
the near future.
Regards,
Luke
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From: TJ S. <tjs...@ya...> - 2005-06-27 01:48:52
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Luke, Don't know if you will get this before you leave. Hope you do. Good luck with everything and have fun. I thought you already went, but I couldn't remember. If you would, please let me know how everything went. I just got done with most of my shopping; 4 suits (one of which I had), 11 shirts (4 of which I had), 3 pairs of slacks, and a pair of shoes. Not to mention a couple of ties, and I still have to get new socks. Anyway, have a safe and enjoyable trip. Hope you have fun and that you learn lots and meet neat people. Talk to you soon. Regards, T.J. P.S. Hope that your summer is going well so far. My trip to NC was good and the day after the Forum (7-27) I am going back for a week. Hope all is well. Luke Myers <ml...@ea...> wrote: The Youth Forum on Technology (in San Jose) runs from tomorrow (27 June) to the 6th of July. I will be unavailable for email during this time. For details on the presentation I am making, please visit http://conjugnu.sourceforge.net/nylf.html/ In my absence, I leave TJ in charge because I trust him not to burn down the place. Don't do anything I wouldn't do. Regards, Luke ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click _______________________________________________ Conjugnu-devl mailing list Con...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/conjugnu-devl --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. |
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From: Luke M. <ml...@ea...> - 2005-06-26 18:56:45
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The Youth Forum on Technology (in San Jose) runs from tomorrow (27 June) to the 6th of July. I will be unavailable for email during this time. For details on the presentation I am making, please visit http://conjugnu.sourceforge.net/nylf.html/ In my absence, I leave TJ in charge because I trust him not to burn down the place. Don't do anything I wouldn't do. Regards, Luke |
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From: Luke M. <ml...@ea...> - 2005-06-14 13:12:22
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Hello List,
There is much that I have to say after so many months of silence on
the list, but now is not the right time to say it. Just remember that
it is OK to post your own questions to the list. Please? I have not
been keeping up with posting the news to the list, but you can find it
on the project's main page (http://conjugnu.sourceforge.net/), with
links leading to older news. Keep looking in the future for
announcements on a release candidate of 4.0 and elections. Feel free to
start any rumors you want. As far as I know, I'm the only one who can
decide things like that, but I'm open to any suggestions.
As many of you know, I have been looking forward to the release of
Fedora Core 4 for the past six months. It incorporates many of the
changes that I am not able to do on my own. The upgrade process is very
easy to do. Only an idiot could screw it up, but as you may know I had
some issues with the FC3 install. Wish me luck.
Regards,
Luke
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From: Luke M. <ml...@ea...> - 2005-04-23 16:23:22
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I feel like there is no right operating system out there. Windows is proprietary, slow, and insecure. My RHL 9 is now a dinosaur and way too dependent on RPM, but Fedora Core is not the best fix. SuSE is too big a download and not necessarily as "open" or free as I would like. The Gentoo installation failed because of an unexpected error on the CD. I'm going to try OpenDarwin (the base for Mac OS X), but I have a feeling that it won't fit exactly the way I want either. So, it would appear that I have three choices: pick a second best, make my own distribution, or write ConjuGNU on paper and ask someone else to compile it. I'm going to try to make my own distribution of the GNU/Linux system. Wish me luck. Details will be forthcoming as to specifications and possible releases. Regards, Luke |
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From: Luke M. <ml...@ea...> - 2005-04-22 13:23:16
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Earlier this week I installed the software that powers Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/), on the ConjuGNU website. There is a link to it from the main page but you can also access it at (http://conjugnu.sourceforge.net/wiki/). It has to pull all of its information from a database, so it may be a little slow. Anyone can post or edit articles on this site. I would prefer that all of the articles stay on the topics of the program itself (history, etc) and language (especially grammar). Hopefully this will encourage growth in our little "community", which is having a little trouble getting off its feet. Cheers, Luke |
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From: Luke M. <ml...@ea...> - 2005-04-09 01:57:36
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Added "Press any key to continue..." to the end of the program so that users who don't start from the command line (everyone but me, that's why I didn't fix it sooner) can actually see the output. Switched to 0.4b, which begins the structure for the final tenses. Once these tenses are finished there is a little polishing to do, but not much. 4.0 will be available soon, if I stay on track and these last tenses (antefuturo, presente condicional, perfecto condicional, perfecto, pluscamperfecto and a few others). A few of these last ones will give me trouble because they are compound tenses, not a big deal. I also have to work on the SDK (which is what you will want for Italian and French). In other news, Gilbert is "officially" in charge of the website. Regards, Luke |
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From: Luke M. <ml...@ea...> - 2005-04-06 23:57:21
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The release that I put out today took almost three weeks of work (I planned for two days, but that's okay). I'm behind schedule, but am not planning to cut back features, opting instead to delay the release (_again_). I hope you understand. Today's long-awaited release (for DOS/Windows, Unix, and available as source) implements the 0.4a format in XML. That means that it will be extremely easy to add new tenses in the future. If anyone wants to start writing their language's file by hand (not recommended, but I've been doing it) it will work as long as you add it to the conju.lst following the format presented. I have also made some bug fixes that no one but the programmers (me and me) will notice, they do not affect end users. With all that said, those of you with less technical ability should try out today's release (see links below). I would say it's the best look to date at what arpeggios will look like. I have added the participle and modified the progressive. More things in the works. All users: Follow the links below to the folder and download the file with the latest date (example: 06Apr2005 for today's release) Windows users: http://conjugnu.sourceforge.net/download/nightly/4.0/dos/ Unix(Linux,BSD,etc): http://conjugnu.sourceforge.net/download/nightly/4.0/unix/ Source: http://conjugnu.sourceforge.net/download/nightly/4.0/src/ Mac: Not yet available* -Luke *More on this later ------------------------------------------------ This mail encrypted with ROT-26. ------------------------------------------------ |
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From: Luke M. <ml...@ea...> - 2005-04-01 14:21:45
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The intentions of ConjuGNU (especially arpeggios as it is
transitioning to this new paradigm) include maintaining a FOSS
(Free/Open Source Software) grammar checker program that will easily
integrate into office suites and other applications and can be compiled
on any platform.
Conju has always been open source. Currently, there are test
releases available for Linux (x86) and DOS/Win32 (x86). I'm looking
into a cross-compiler for Linux that would allow me to make builds for
Darwin/Mac OS X. Fink (http://fink.sourceforge.net) could be exactly
what I'm looking for. If that is the case, those of you running Mac OS
(or any other Unix for PowerPC) will be able to test ConjuGNU without
emulators for the first time.
As I have stated, we're getting really close to the release of
arpeggios. That's when the hard work starts. At that point, I will
begin taking volunteers to make language files for Italian, French,
English, Portuguese, or any other language that you want to see. The
process will be automated by a program to be released with 4.0; you will
just have to answer some questions (not a small number of questions,
although you can choose not to answer some of them).
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From: Luke M. <ml...@ea...> - 2005-04-01 00:10:25
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Hello List, If you've ventured out to the project's website (http://conjugnu.sourceforge.net) lately you probably noticed that it's lacking a little in style. I think it would be good if we had a clean, user-friendly interface for the site. Gilbert Sanchez (mailto:gso...@ya...) has offered to create such a design using PHP (aka PHP Hypertext Protocol -- I'm a sucker for recursive acronyms, they're almost as exciting as grammar). Anyone wishing to collaborate on this effort should contact Gilbert or post directly to the list. Honestly, I'm too focused on the coding and have too little experience in this area to do it myself. It would be best if the site was completed for the release of arpeggios (which still has no concrete release date). I've made a lot of progress on 4.0 and am planning a build for this weekend when I finalize the 0.4x format (which I believe should carry over to 1.0x with little or no changes). In any case, any and all suggestions for what should be available web-wise should be sent to Gilbert and not myself. Good luck. Cheers, Luke |
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From: Luke M. <ml...@ea...> - 2005-03-26 02:16:25
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Trying to figure out XML parsing was driving me insane. I just made a real breakthrough and I'm planning a release (nightly, not official) sometime in the first or second week of April. When this occurs, I need some volunteers to test it extensively. It's easy, just play around with it and tell me what could be better. Remember, all future versions that I can imagine at this point will be based on the 4.0 code. That means that if I make a mistake now and don't correct it, I'll have to rewrite everything after it to fix it later. I don't want to do that. In other news, today I submitted the project's website to the Open Directory Project (http://dmoz.org/). It should be accepted as it is a site with unique content. That means it will appear on Google, Yahoo!, or whatever search engine you use within the next six months. Feature requests are always accepted. I need to know what you want! Regards, Luke |
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From: Luke M. <ml...@ea...> - 2005-03-22 23:33:29
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Okay, I was wrong. There was one other language file format before the 0.4x, but no one pays attention anyway. Transitioning to XML is complete as far as the file itself is concerned and I'm almost done coding in the XML reader, which means almost anyone will be able to understand what the file says. I thought I would get a lot of work in with some time off, but I'm taking a little time off from this project too to make sure that no one checks me into a room with padded wallpaper. I've also put some time into an SDK for Conju. This will eventually be used to create language files automatically. Any questions on how this will work or when you can test it should be posted on the list. |
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From: Luke M. <ml...@ea...> - 2005-03-15 23:56:08
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Today's build was the last of the 0.3x series of language files. If you take the time to open it up, you'll notice it's starting to look a little like web page format. Following leads from OOo and Daniel Naber's grammar project (danielnaber.de), I have decided that our language files will be in the new XML format. The file in today's release (0.3c) is a transition from 0.3x to 0.4x, it contains only one grammatical change. The new names for the tenses as suggested by Mrs. Diaz have been implemented in both the grammar header file and the language input file. The main benefit of the XML format will be ease of use. For example, I won't have to change the code every time I add a new tense - it will read the headers. This also means languages can have any number of verb endings needed. For example, Spanish has three endings (ar, er, ir) while English has only one (any letter). Instead of having two separate codes or blank lines, it will run automatically. The unknown stuff (tenses that the file's creator may not know) will not be affected at all. Also, for those of you who remember the old listing for unavailable options (see screen shot https://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=128869&ssid=5698), I have restored this listing method. Cheers, Luke |
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From: Luke M. <ml...@ea...> - 2005-03-15 01:38:47
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I have just fixed a small issue with the code that prevented the DOS/Windows version from working properly. ; - ) I have moved the nightly builds to the website from the main page. Yes, now they are both nightly and builds. Before they were just source and not nightly. Please visit http://conjugnu.sourceforge.net/download/nightly/4.0/ to download a copy. It is available for Linux, DOS/Win32, and, of course, in source. Please note that the source does not include executables as the executables do not include source. There is a Mac folder but no Mac build as of yet. Please download the latest release for your own convenience. Cheers, Luke |
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From: gilbert s. <gso...@ya...> - 2005-03-14 02:14:45
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Hi, My name is Gilbert, I have used windows for 7 years, 98, which was not so bad, but it was still microsoft, and recently xp, now I am on linux and no longer in denial, it has been 6 months since I've last used windows of my own free will, so the healing can begin. I am a fluent spanish speaker, and I am pretty good at French, (I would like to think) I took 3 years of French, skipping level 3 to go to 4. My programming abilities include a little bit of C++, VB.net, .php and actionscript.(not that it'll do much good here) pleased to be part of the group, Gilbert __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com |
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From: Nicolas D. <lu...@ea...> - 2005-03-13 20:44:33
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Hi, again! I was told that my introduction message did not go through found the source of the problem and I have corrected it. So here it goes, I am Mrs. Maria E. Diaz, Spanish teacher at New River Middle school. I am a "grammarnut" (crazy about grammar) and love linguistic challenges in any language (not that I have full command of many!!). I can help quite a bit with any Spanish issues and to some extent with Latin and Italian. I am somehow literate in computers but not as good as I would like to. I know nothing about programming except basic concepts about generative grammar - which I should also try to refresh in my brain since it has been so long from the time I first learned about it. I'm happy to help you all with anything I can, and you know where to reach me! Best regards! Mrs. Diaz --- Maria Diaz --- lu...@ea... --- EarthLink: It's your Internet. |
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From: Nicolas D. <lu...@ea...> - 2005-03-13 20:22:24
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Luke, Check if it may say "antefuturo"(which may be confused with the denomination "futuro anterior")If it is "antefuturo", that is the futuro perfecto (the verb tenses have gone through various name changes ). It is also a compound tense which is used to express the past of the future; when you want to express a future time as "previous" to the future time you are talking about. e.g. Manana (as in tomorrow - I can't make the letter n with the wiggly line on top with my husband note book) ya "habran pintado" el comedor. I am not sure of the accurate translation in English "Tomorrow they would have painted the dinning room already" (Does this sound OK in English?). It also uses HABER plus the participle. Full conjugation goes as follows: yo habre, tu habras, el (et all) habra, nos.habremos, vos. habreis, ellos (et all)habran (the forms for yo, tu, el and ellos take the mark of the accent on the last vowel, the form for vosotros takes the mark on the "e"; the form for nosotros does not take an accent mark - I can't make the accent marks with this computer either!) I hope this solves the puzzle! > [Original Message] > From: Luke Myers <ml...@ea...> > To: <lu...@ea...> > Date: 3/13/05 2:03:37 PM > Subject: Re: conjugnulist > > I'm sorry that I didn't respond to your fist message. Yes, > you are right: the introduction did not go through. The other email > on the other hand was very helpful. I'll make the changes as soon as > I get some free time. I did, however, change your subscription to > your home email. I'm a little surprised that a website claiming to > be a reliable source would make up a name for the tense. I guess > going to have to double-check stuff in the future. > > Sra. Diaz wrote: > I just sent to the list the answer to the question about the verb > tenses, but I don't know if it will get there. I got a message from > my server that says that the previous message I sent to that address > (my introduction) couldn't be delivered. Please let me know if you > were able to read it. --- Nicolas Diaz --- lu...@ea... --- EarthLink: It's your Internet. |
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From: Nicolas D. <lu...@ea...> - 2005-03-13 18:46:36
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HI, Everybody: Well, I will try to crack the questions about the verb tenses. First, there is no such a thing as futuro anterior: could it be futuro perfecto? As for the preterito anterior is one of the compound tenses: it's build with haber plus the participle as in Yo hube comprado. It presents a past event as "previous" to the past time you are talking about. e.g. Cuando todos se hubieron ido, yo pude limpiar la casa.(IRSE as in "leave," is reflexive thus the reflexive pronoun "se") It translates roughly as "Once everyone had left, I was able to clean the house." It's a way to express the order of events in the past - even in the past some things happened before others. Gee, language is so linear, isn't it? No idea what the name in English is, but has other denomination in Spanish: antepreterito. Whole conjugation of HABER in antepreterito: yo hube, tu hubiste, el/ella/Ud hubo,nos.hubimos,vos.hubisteis,ellos/ellas/Uds. hubieron Hope this helps. Bye Mrs. Diaz > [Original Message] > From: Luke Myers <ml...@ea...> > To: ConjuGNU Devl List <con...@li...> > Date: 3/11/05 9:39:52 AM > Subject: [Conjugnu-devl] Grammatical and other questions > > 1) Leading up to the 4.0 release (codenamed arpeggios) I am trying to > finalize the class structure that keeps track of the tenses and their > conjugations. Can anyone explain to what these two tenses do and tell > me what they are called in English? Please respond to the list and not > to me directly. > > preterito-anterior > futuro-anterior > > 2) Does anyone who is any good at web design have free time to clean up > my attempt at a web page (http://conjugnu.sourceforge.net)? This person > might also design a replacement logo. > > For everyone: take a look at the web page. It gives an insight into > where I want to take development. I would appreciate the input. > > 3) Distribution and compiling: This applies to the entire list as > well. Input on these issues would be nice. I'm thinking of community > distribution on CDs similar to what I do with Red Hat, OpenOffice.org, > and Gnoppix, only on a larger scale. Everyone on the list will receive > an "official" 4.0 CD with binaries for Linux (x86 only, sorry), Mac OS > X, and Windows as well as the source. Don't worry, I'll get one to you > somehow. I'm also going to make up about 15 other 'cheap' copies (same > content, no fancy label) for distribution at school. > > Michael, we really ought to work out getting you to install glib C and > gcc or helping me to find a cross-compiler. It might be easier for me > to get a cross-compiler because I already have glib C installed, but > you'll need to test my binaries. > > Does anyone here understand Windows development? I've tried compiling > the source with a gcc cross-compiler for DOS, DJGPP, MinGW, Visual C++, > and Dev-Cpp, all with the same problems. The code is in ANSI-compliant > C, so I don't understand why compiling should be an issue on another OS. > > Cheers, > Luke > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Conjugnu-devl mailing list > Con...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/conjugnu-devl --- Maria Diaz --- lu...@ea... --- EarthLink: It's your Internet. |
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From: Luke M. <ml...@ea...> - 2005-03-13 00:34:19
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List: Those of you running Windows will be glad to know that ConjuGNU 4.0 will ship with a version for Windows. The compiler for Windows is a little bit picky and I just now realized what it wants. I've just been told that it works correctly. Those of you who are a little behind as far as upgrades go, don't worry: ConjuGNU is compatible with every OS from DOS 4 to Windows XP. Cheers, Luke |
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From: Luke M. <ml...@ea...> - 2005-03-11 14:37:05
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1) Leading up to the 4.0 release (codenamed arpeggios) I am trying to finalize the class structure that keeps track of the tenses and their conjugations. Can anyone explain to what these two tenses do and tell me what they are called in English? Please respond to the list and not to me directly. preterito-anterior futuro-anterior 2) Does anyone who is any good at web design have free time to clean up my attempt at a web page (http://conjugnu.sourceforge.net)? This person might also design a replacement logo. For everyone: take a look at the web page. It gives an insight into where I want to take development. I would appreciate the input. 3) Distribution and compiling: This applies to the entire list as well. Input on these issues would be nice. I'm thinking of community distribution on CDs similar to what I do with Red Hat, OpenOffice.org, and Gnoppix, only on a larger scale. Everyone on the list will receive an "official" 4.0 CD with binaries for Linux (x86 only, sorry), Mac OS X, and Windows as well as the source. Don't worry, I'll get one to you somehow. I'm also going to make up about 15 other 'cheap' copies (same content, no fancy label) for distribution at school. Michael, we really ought to work out getting you to install glib C and gcc or helping me to find a cross-compiler. It might be easier for me to get a cross-compiler because I already have glib C installed, but you'll need to test my binaries. Does anyone here understand Windows development? I've tried compiling the source with a gcc cross-compiler for DOS, DJGPP, MinGW, Visual C++, and Dev-Cpp, all with the same problems. The code is in ANSI-compliant C, so I don't understand why compiling should be an issue on another OS. Cheers, Luke |
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From: Luke M. <ml...@ea...> - 2005-03-11 13:45:47
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This morning I released today's "nightly" build (the first in a little over a week). Because this is a new list I want to assure you that I won't send out one of these notices every night that I do a release. Today's is a very significant build because it signals a little maturity in this very young program. Yesterday was the first time I read Linus Torvalds call his 13+ year-old Linux kernel "mature". Most of the hacking for the 4.0 release is done. Everything from here on out is more or less bug fixes and adding new tenses. Today's release begins the 0.3a language file format (previous formats included 0.1a, 0.1b, 0.1c, 0.1d, and 0.2a). The language file contains information such as the name of the language, the names of the moods and tenses, and all of the conjugations for the verbs. I have discussed the 0.3a format with several of you. The main difference is readability. Older formats listed conjugations straight down, but 0.3a separates them into tenses and verb endings using commas. Tenses that used to take up 18 lines now only take up 3. The only reason for not having a "readable" file format before this was mainly a programming issue. I have written two new functions which can be found in the new listmunch.c: one to separate lists with commas, and one to put that new list into the class structure. In theory these functions will be more efficient and faster. The only problem is it loaded so fast before that I couldn't measure the speed. The good news is new tenses will only require three new lines of code whereas a new tense in the old format would require rewriting the whole 'load' function. Any questions about using these new functions should be directed to me. I'm not going to write a manual unless there is a real demand for it. Cheers, Luke |
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From: <no...@ad...> - 2005-03-09 23:37:05
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Here I am. ---- Luke Myers <ml...@ea...> wrote: > Hello List, > > This is the first mailing ever on conju-devl, the developers list for > the ConjuGNU grammar checking project. I am proud to announce that > version 4.0 will be released soon -- maybe even within this month. > Today I have reached the same functionality as I had in version 3.1. > There are a few more things I want to work out, but we're on the right > track. I am going to begin work on the grammar portion of it around the > same time as the 4.0 release. All of you have been selected because you > have expressed an interest in helping with the programming or grammar > aspects of the program. Please introduce yourself to the list soon. I > look forward to your suggestions and help. > > Cheers, > Luke > Project Head / List Administrator > > By the way, no HTML on the list. > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Conjugnu-devl mailing list > Con...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/conjugnu-devl |
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From: Luke M. <ml...@ea...> - 2005-03-04 01:39:05
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Hello List, This is the first mailing ever on conju-devl, the developers list for the ConjuGNU grammar checking project. I am proud to announce that version 4.0 will be released soon -- maybe even within this month. Today I have reached the same functionality as I had in version 3.1. There are a few more things I want to work out, but we're on the right track. I am going to begin work on the grammar portion of it around the same time as the 4.0 release. All of you have been selected because you have expressed an interest in helping with the programming or grammar aspects of the program. Please introduce yourself to the list soon. I look forward to your suggestions and help. Cheers, Luke Project Head / List Administrator By the way, no HTML on the list. |