Re: rawsock documentation, make-stream

[Sam S. <sd...@gn...>]

> * Don Cohen <qba...@vf...3-vap.pbz> [2005-10-01 23:22:09 -0700]:
>
> In the mean while I've sent another message to the list and begin to
> wonder whether I should forward that to you as well, though in that
> case you might not be the one who would have answered it anyway.

things seem better now...

>  > yes, but these uses are far from mainstream lisp application.
>
> I don't understand the reasoning that leads to this conclusion.

a mainstream lisp application is to flatten a list.
lisp is not good for anything but lists, right? :-)

> What are the mainstream applications of TCP ?
> What makes them mainstream?
> Is a web server more main stream than a DNS server?  If so, Why?
> The only argument I see is that (until now) the web server could
> be implemented and the DNS server couldn't, which is true but circular.
> If we leave out the standard applications that are already widely
> implemented and concentrate on things that are done just for a single
> project, again I don't see why one is more mainstream than another.

what are we arguing here about?
you get whatever functionality you want.
if you want a more encouraging language for the docs, please send a
patch.

>   32.13.5. High-Level Functions
> In what sense are the functions in this section higher level than
> those above?

they do not map directly to a single syscall.

> checksums - mention that these not only compute the checksum but
> store it in the buffer.  Also, looking at the code, these seem
> to assume the buffer holds a raw ethernet packet of the expected
> type.  In fact, that type seems more seem than you might expect,
> e.g. the won't work with such things as vlan tagged packets, even
> though you might think of those as IP packets.  In hind sight I
> think these should have been written in lisp.

I don't know what those functions do.
I have no idea what they compute.
I would appreciate a doc for them:
like: what is the buffer size? (max? min?)
are they destructive?
how?
where are they checksums specified? (rfc?)

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