Re: [Cdk-devel] Some thoughts on JChemPaint-2.1.5

[Gemma L. H. <ge...@eb...>]

This is something that I too find somewaht clunky. There are many things I 
don't like about ISIS/Draw, but the ease with which one can add atoms not 
carbon is is good. Personally, it would be most intuitive for me as a user 
to click on the "A" button and then wherever I clicked on the diagram 
would then allow me to add whatever i typed on teh keyboard.

Gemma

On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Rich Apodaca wrote:

> On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 10:50:45 +0100, Stefan Kuhn wrote
>> Couldn't we make this much clearer just by changing the graphic on
>> the A  button, e. g. to Symbols linked by arrows like C->O->N...? Stefan
>
> That would make it clearer. But the problem would still remain. I'm an end
> user. I don't want to memorize the sequence to get to S so I can make
> thiomorpholine. Was that C->O->N->H->S or C->O->S? The keyboard is much faster.
>
> One way to combine both approaches would be to let the user select what will
> appear when the A button is deployed by using the keyboard. User draws
> cyclohexane. User presses "S" on keyboard. User pushes "A" button. User clicks
> on node where sulfur goes. Still this is indirect - there is a lot of clicking
> and moving.
>
> Compare this with: User draws cyclohexane. User presses "S" key. User clicks
> on node. done. There are even faster approaches.
>
> This may sound like a minor improvement. But consider that the average user
> will do this hundreds of times. Any bit of time you can save them is
> multiplied by an enormous factor.
>
>> Am Monday 05 December 2005 20:32 schrieb Christoph Steinbeck:
>>> Rich Apodaca wrote:
>>>> Heteroatom labels. I've drawn cyclohexane and I want to make it
>>>> piperazine. I need to put in the two nitrogen atoms. As far as I can
>>>> tell, the only way for me to do this is right click on node->Common
>>>> Elements...->N. In my experience,
>>>
>>> If you choose the "A" button, which puts you into Element Symbol mode, you
>>> can toggle throught the most common element symbols by just clicking on the
>>> respective atoms.
>>> I admit that this is not obvious :-)
>>> I have had various complaint about this issue already, and people suggested
>>> to have the 10 most common symbols as buttons, like all other editors :-)
>
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