Re: [cclan-list] asdf to cl.net; cvs to git

[Robert G. <rpg...@si...>]

Gary King wrote:
> As discussed previously, I'd like to move asdf from sourceforge to  
> cl.net. I'd also like to move from CVS to git. I also want to make  
> things as simple as possible for all the stakeholders (i.e., the lisp  
> community, the cCLan creators and maintainers, me (!)).
> 
> I'm not a VCS-maven and haven't found any brain-dead simple cvs to git  
> converters that are come with only praise. The easiest thing (for me)  
> to do would be to checkout the head of the ASDF repository and start a  
> fresh git image from there.
> 
> # Pros
> 
> * it's easy
> * requires no research into software tools
> * it could be done today!
> 
> # Cons
> 
> * we lose easy access to the history of the repository
> 
> I personally don't mind losing the history but if there are those that  
> do, speak up! Also, if there are those that have experience  
> transitioning from CVS to git and can tell me how to do it easily, let  
> me know!
> 
> If I don't hear any protests, I'll move ASDF into git without its  
> history by Tuesday.

Protest!  ;-)

I like the move from ASDF into git, all things considered.  For one
thing my import of Marco's clean-op is pretty much derailed by my
inability to create a branch....

Two points:

1.  I really would prefer that we not lose the history.  I can't imagine
that this is really that hard.  My company has had great success dumping
cvs with full history into SVN, so I can't believe that passing from cvs
to git is impossible.  I *have* heard that the cvs->git tools are not
bulletproof and read at least one web article claiming that
cvs->svn->git is a better path; that the two links in that path are
better than the single link in the direct one.  I have no way of
evaluating this hearsay.

2.  Please explain to us the working pattern for ASDF + git.  E.g., I
occasionally submit a small patch or two to Carsten Dominik's org-mode,
and I am happy that he has clearly explained the git-usage pattern.  For
that project, you pull from Carsten, branch, develop new code, create a
patch, submit to Carsten and, if all goes well, it goes into Carsten's
master repo.  Is this a workable pattern for ASDF?  If not, do you have
something different in mind?  git is such a flexible tool that (at least
to me) saying we're going to move to git doesn't tell me how we're going
to work as a community.

Thanks,
R