Re: [Apcupsd-users] APCUPSD and Mac Pro power on after reset

[<jer...@ma...>]

Thanks Adam,

Sorry for the delay, it has been a holiday here in UK!

Thank you for the pointers, I will look at this as soon as I can.  
Unfortunately, the unit is on a remote site, so will have to wait  
until I am there next. I will do some investigation on a test server  
as I can get time. You may be right about that (not having tested  
after a complete shutdown), I thought I have tested it before, but  
may not have done a full shutdown and then restore power.

 From searching on internet, I have found that calling shutdown -hu  
instead of -h should mark it as an unclean shutdown even if it fully  
shuts down. Not sure if that is how the shutdown is initiated, I will  
look at this when I get time! (But thought it might be useful info  
for someone else before I get there...)

Thanks again, and thanks for a great project...

Regards,

Jerry

On 24 Aug 2007, at 20:23, Adam Kropelin wrote:

> jer...@ma... wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Sorry if this has been asked before, I have only just joined this
>> list.
>
> That's what they make list archives for :)
>
>> I am running apcupsd version 3.14.1 (installed from the binary
>> installer package) on a Mac Pro running Mac OS X Server (10.4.7) This
>> is connected via USB to an APC Smart-UPS 3000 XL.
>
> Glad to hear the binary installer and usb support are working for you.
>
>> In System Preferences > Energy Saver > Options, the option "Restart
>> Automatically after a power failure" is checked.
>
> I believe that means the machine will restart if power is cut  
> *while the
> OS is running*...i.e, an unclean shutdown.
>
>> Before installing
>> apcupsd, the unit would correctly power on when the power is switched
>> off and back on.
>
> I presume you left off "...as long as the OS was running." I  
> believe if
> you do a clean shutdown and then cut/restore power, the machine  
> will not
> restart, apcupsd or not.
>
>> Since installing apcupsd, the unit will not power on
>> after power is turned back on.
>
> ...because now your machine is being shut down cleanly.
>
>> A separate issue (related?) is that the UPS does not appear to
>> actually power off after a power outage, so the server would not
>> actually be restarted anyway. To test, I set apcupsd to initiate
>> shutdown after the power had been off for 60 seconds. This
>> successfully shut everything down, but the UPS did not kill the power
>> (the power was still on for the tape library and Xserve RAID). I
>> waited over 5 minutes for the kill power to occur.
>
> The killpower function is not enabled by default when apcupsd is  
> running
> on OS X. This is because Apple's shutdown scripts will power off the
> machine before the killpower will take effect, leaving you in a  
> similar
> situation as you are in now: With the machine self-powered off,  
> cutting
> and restoring utility power is not sufficient to trigger a restart.  
> This
> is a frustration on nearly all OSes these days where the designers  
> have
> seen fit to make "power off" a default (and in many cases unavoidable)
> behavior of shutdown.
>
> That said, I *think* OS X may have a hook for dealing with this
> scenario. I recall reading a blog posting about it somewhere.
>
>> Again, another issue, not sure if it related, when attempting to run
>> apctest I get the following:
>>
>> [...]
>> You are using a USB cable type, so I'm entering USB test mode
>> mode.type = USB_UPS
>> Setting up the port ...
>> apctest FATAL ERROR in generic-usb.c at line 613
>> Cannot find UPS device --
>> For a link to detailed USB trouble shooting information,
>> please see <http://www.apcupsd.com/support.html>.
>> apctest error termination completed
>>
>> What does this mean?
>
> You need to stop apcupsd before running apctest.
>
> --Adam
>
>
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