From: Karel D. <kar...@gm...> - 2007-05-31 21:44:54
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2007/5/31, Youness Alaoui <kak...@ka...>: > I know that I kind of flooded the list with all the mails (it's still better than one huge mail, right ?) > But anyone can comment on the three reasons I gave below as to whether or not a DM should be created ? > > On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 12:31:16AM -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote: > > Yes, but I still think it would be an advantage for many reasons : > > 1 - everyone has it, so if we don't, it's a -1 for us (I know it's not a real/good reason but from the end-user > > perspective, it is) If every german were to kill jews, it doesn't make me kill jews (no pilitics involved here, I don't dislike germans at all, it's just a statement). In other words: this is such a bad arguement > > 2 - if we save the FT list in the config, it would be useful to open the FT manager and see which file, which > > person sent you a month ago.. easier than ls -lt on amsn_received, and having to use a plugin to sort our > > received folder... You just said it's "so unintuitive to have to search for FT's in the chat history"; though, in IM, a file transfer is part of a chat. so it's kind of logical. It could be made easier to find FT's in a history by having some filters in the history viewer though (like "show only FT's") or having 'm easily searchable by find-while-typing > > 3 - if you download many files, it IS important.. I don't use voice clips, you don't, I don't use webcam, vivia > > does, we don't use a lot of FTs but other users do. I mean, even ME, I do have sometimes (from time to time) 20 > > FTs or more in an hour from one or two people.. If you have 1 FT in a month or 20 in a minute, they could still be found in the history, and then you still don't need a "manager" for it. The term "manager" makes me always think about bureaucrazy (intended) ... the question is if you need it, not if it sounds well or if it looks great on a release note like "0.98 has a FT manager, hooray !" > > > > I hope it's convincing.. For me it's not, but as I'm more democratic then you possibly think, I await other's reply > > > > KaKaRoTo > > > > > > On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 10:00:00PM +0300, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote: > > > On Wed, 30 May 2007, Karel Demeyer wrote: > > > > > > > Again, I'd like the question(s) to rise: Do we really need an "FT > > > > manager"? Isn't this a bit over-engineering ? Is it needed for an IM > > > > program where file transfers are a nice feature but not the main > > > > activity ? Do you think our users will transfer so many files at once > > > > they need a manager because they can't manage 'm themselves ? > > > > > > +1 from here. It would just clutter imho. :) When transferring a file with > > > an IM program, you usually associate it with the sender/receiver and not > > > with other downloads, so a download manager would be yet another desktop > > > clutter... OK, better than the many transfer windows we have now, but > > > still a nuisance. I think that the status bar is quite appropriate for FT > > > info. > > > > > > Oh, and +1 from Alvaro - we just discussed it. :) > > > > > > Vivia > > > > > > > > > > > Karel. > > > > > > > > 2007/5/30, NoWhereMan <now...@fl...>: > > > > > Harry Vennik wrote: > > > > > > Btw. keep in mind that closing a CW should not stop any FT. So, there > > > > > > should be another way of opening the FT window than only through > > > > > > clicking an FT in a CW. Also when a conversation with the same > > > > > > contact is openend again, while the FT is still going on, that FT > > > > > > should appear in the CW again!!! > > > > > > > > > > yeeech! that sounds a bit complex. I would just go with the wlm-like message > > > > > "if you leave the conversation now all transfers will be closed" or > > > > > something along the lines. 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