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From: Sylvain L. <syl...@un...> - 2023-10-24 10:26:03
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Dear All, Thanks you very much for your answers and reactions. I do agree with the two suggestions below: mention Bernard work on the Alpha page and trying to maintain the current Alpha App. I hope that other people will come along and fork Alpha to bring it to other incarnation, but the current Alpha app should at least maintain. When I remember how Bernard were patiently being tracking issues and how he was tracking difficult bugs in the arcane of the cocoa framework or in the changes introduced by new Apple equipment, I hope that we will found the competence to keep the Alpha App up and running in the long term. Best regards to all, Sylvain > Le 9 oct. 2023 à 17:32, Fischlin Andreas <and...@en...> a écrit : > > Dear all, > > I am very, very sorry to hear these sad news. I feared there might be something wrong as Bernard has responded in the past always so promptly and kindly. I indeed feared that Bernard might not be well as there was suddenly only silence from his side. This is a very great loss. > > I must say Bernard’s contribution is paramount and humungous and of a such outstanding quality, a quality that is rarely found in open source communities, and I mean that does apply not to just the core software, but is also true for the documentation, actually the entire environment or universe of Alpha. I fear it will be very challenging to pick up the baton where he left it. Of course, on the other hand, the very high quality of all the work he did would provide an excellent basis. > > Perhaps following ought to be done: First, Bernard ought to be properly honored within Alpha, sort of a monument in his name, so that all his contributions will also be remembered well. He was too modest for doing that himself. Secondly, I would argue that Alpha’s functionality should not be extended in any way but only maintained. This means a focus on bug fixing and minimally necessary adaptions to keep Alpha alive on newer systems. Otherwise we risk to erode the current high quality Alpha has reached thanks to Bernard. I hope a sufficient number of dedicated volunteers will come together to maintain Alpha in such a manner. > > These are just some thoughts that cross my mind with respect to Alpha and the sad news I had to learn about. > > What do YOU think? > > Andreas Fischlin > > > ETH Zurich > Prof. em. Dr. Andreas Fischlin > IPCC Vice-Chair WGII > Systems Ecology - Institute of Biogeochemistry and Pollutant Dynamics > CHN E 24 > Universitaetstrasse 16 > 8092 Zurich > SWITZERLAND > > and...@en... > www.sysecol.ethz.ch/people/andreas.fischlin.html > > +41 44 633-6090 phone > +41 44 633-1136 fax > +41 79 595-4050 mobile > > Make it as simple as possible, but distrust it! > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > >> On Mon, 09.10.23, at 02:36, Michel Tallon <mt...@ob...> wrote: >> >> Dear Sylvain, >> >> Thank you very much for your message. I'm very sorry to hear this sad news. I was just discovering the Cocoa version of Alpha, admiring how well designed and well done Bernard's code is. May he be thanked for this exemplary work. >> I really hope someone can continue this work. >> >> Best regards, >> Michel Tallon >> >> On 07/10/2023 12:25, Sylvain Loiseau wrote: >>> Dear all, >>> >>> I’m very sad to have to inform you that Bernard passed away some month ago, after a long illness. Despite his great discretion and modesty, we know how hard he worked and how willing he was to help everyone with the projects he was working on. >>> >>> Thanks to his very specific capabilities, he has made AlphaCocoa a mature software in just a few years. I'm afraid it won't be easy to continue updating Alpha without him. I hope that a discussion will emerge and that competent people will be able to maintain Alpha. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Sylvain >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> AlphaCocoa-devel mailing list >>> Alp...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alphacocoa-devel >> -- >> Michel Tallon, CRAL, Observatoire de Lyon >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> AlphaCocoa-devel mailing list >> Alp...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alphacocoa-devel > ----- Sylvain Loiseau syl...@un... Université Sorbonne Paris Nord 99 avenue Jean-Baptiste Clément F-93430 Villetaneuse Laboratoire « Langues et civilisations à tradition orale » (UMR 7107 CNRS) Campus CNRS 7, rue Guy Môquet (bât. D) F-94801 Villejuif Cedex http://lacito.cnrs.fr |
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From: Jonathan G. <jg...@hi...> - 2023-10-09 16:52:08
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Sylvain - Thank you very much for sharing this sad news. Bernard will be sorely missed. I greatly enjoyed the time I spent with Bernard in the "Alpha Cabal". I have fond memories of a spectacular lunch with him and Dominique on a visit to Paris many years ago. Bernard has been solely responsible for Alpha’s core development for many years. AlphaCocoa, in particular, is entirely his creation. I’m not sure that anybody that was not intimately familiar with the earlier incarnations of the Alpha source code can appreciate how monumental his effort was. Although I have not been active in Alpha development for a very long time, Bernard did graciously grant me admin rights to AlphaCocoa on SourceForge. If anybody in the community is interested in picking up maintenance of the project, I will be happy to facilitate. - Jon > On Oct 7, 2023, at 6:25 AM, Sylvain Loiseau <syl...@un...> wrote: > > Dear all, > > I’m very sad to have to inform you that Bernard passed away some month ago, after a long illness. Despite his great discretion and modesty, we know how hard he worked and how willing he was to help everyone with the projects he was working on. > > Thanks to his very specific capabilities, he has made AlphaCocoa a mature software in just a few years. I'm afraid it won't be easy to continue updating Alpha without him. I hope that a discussion will emerge and that competent people will be able to maintain Alpha. > > Best regards, > Sylvain > > > > _______________________________________________ > AlphaCocoa-devel mailing list > Alp...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alphacocoa-devel |
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From: Fischlin A. <and...@en...> - 2023-10-09 15:32:16
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Dear all, I am very, very sorry to hear these sad news. I feared there might be something wrong as Bernard has responded in the past always so promptly and kindly. I indeed feared that Bernard might not be well as there was suddenly only silence from his side. This is a very great loss. I must say Bernard’s contribution is paramount and humungous and of a such outstanding quality, a quality that is rarely found in open source communities, and I mean that does apply not to just the core software, but is also true for the documentation, actually the entire environment or universe of Alpha. I fear it will be very challenging to pick up the baton where he left it. Of course, on the other hand, the very high quality of all the work he did would provide an excellent basis. Perhaps following ought to be done: First, Bernard ought to be properly honored within Alpha, sort of a monument in his name, so that all his contributions will also be remembered well. He was too modest for doing that himself. Secondly, I would argue that Alpha’s functionality should not be extended in any way but only maintained. This means a focus on bug fixing and minimally necessary adaptions to keep Alpha alive on newer systems. Otherwise we risk to erode the current high quality Alpha has reached thanks to Bernard. I hope a sufficient number of dedicated volunteers will come together to maintain Alpha in such a manner. These are just some thoughts that cross my mind with respect to Alpha and the sad news I had to learn about. What do YOU think? Andreas Fischlin ETH Zurich Prof. em. Dr. Andreas Fischlin IPCC Vice-Chair WGII Systems Ecology - Institute of Biogeochemistry and Pollutant Dynamics CHN E 24 Universitaetstrasse 16 8092 Zurich SWITZERLAND and...@en... www.sysecol.ethz.ch/people/andreas.fischlin.html <http://www.sysecol.ethz.ch/people/andreas.fischlin.hml> +41 44 633-6090 phone +41 44 633-1136 fax +41 79 595-4050 mobile Make it as simple as possible, but distrust it! ________________________________________________________________________ > On Mon, 09.10.23, at 02:36, Michel Tallon <mt...@ob...> wrote: > > Dear Sylvain, > > Thank you very much for your message. I'm very sorry to hear this sad news. I was just discovering the Cocoa version of Alpha, admiring how well designed and well done Bernard's code is. May he be thanked for this exemplary work. > I really hope someone can continue this work. > > Best regards, > Michel Tallon > > On 07/10/2023 12:25, Sylvain Loiseau wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> I’m very sad to have to inform you that Bernard passed away some month ago, after a long illness. Despite his great discretion and modesty, we know how hard he worked and how willing he was to help everyone with the projects he was working on. >> >> Thanks to his very specific capabilities, he has made AlphaCocoa a mature software in just a few years. I'm afraid it won't be easy to continue updating Alpha without him. I hope that a discussion will emerge and that competent people will be able to maintain Alpha. >> >> Best regards, >> Sylvain >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> AlphaCocoa-devel mailing list >> Alp...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alphacocoa-devel > -- > Michel Tallon, CRAL, Observatoire de Lyon > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AlphaCocoa-devel mailing list > Alp...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alphacocoa-devel |
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From: Michel T. <mt...@ob...> - 2023-10-09 08:36:30
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Dear Sylvain, Thank you very much for your message. I'm very sorry to hear this sad news. I was just discovering the Cocoa version of Alpha, admiring how well designed and well done Bernard's code is. May he be thanked for this exemplary work. I really hope someone can continue this work. Best regards, Michel Tallon On 07/10/2023 12:25, Sylvain Loiseau wrote: > Dear all, > > I’m very sad to have to inform you that Bernard passed away some month ago, after a long illness. Despite his great discretion and modesty, we know how hard he worked and how willing he was to help everyone with the projects he was working on. > > Thanks to his very specific capabilities, he has made AlphaCocoa a mature software in just a few years. I'm afraid it won't be easy to continue updating Alpha without him. I hope that a discussion will emerge and that competent people will be able to maintain Alpha. > > Best regards, > Sylvain > > > _______________________________________________ > AlphaCocoa-devel mailing list > Alp...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alphacocoa-devel -- Michel Tallon, CRAL, Observatoire de Lyon |
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From: Dr E. W L. <el...@li...> - 2023-10-07 11:06:17
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Dear Sylvain, thank you so much for your note, it is said to hear this. Alpha is indeed a fantastic package, the only one that can do proper email formatting among many other things. I really hope someone can pick up the ball. greetings, el -- Sent from my iPhone On Oct 7, 2023 at 12:44 +0200, Sylvain Loiseau <syl...@un...>, wrote: > Dear all, > > I’m very sad to have to inform you that Bernard passed away some month ago, after a long illness. Despite his great discretion and modesty, we know how hard he worked and how willing he was to help everyone with the projects he was working on. > > Thanks to his very specific capabilities, he has made AlphaCocoa a mature software in just a few years. I'm afraid it won't be easy to continue updating Alpha without him. I hope that a discussion will emerge and that competent people will be able to maintain Alpha. > > Best regards, > Sylvain > > > > _______________________________________________ > AlphaCocoa-devel mailing list > Alp...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alphacocoa-devel |
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From: Sylvain L. <syl...@un...> - 2023-10-07 10:44:05
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Dear all, I’m very sad to have to inform you that Bernard passed away some month ago, after a long illness. Despite his great discretion and modesty, we know how hard he worked and how willing he was to help everyone with the projects he was working on. Thanks to his very specific capabilities, he has made AlphaCocoa a mature software in just a few years. I'm afraid it won't be easy to continue updating Alpha without him. I hope that a discussion will emerge and that competent people will be able to maintain Alpha. Best regards, Sylvain |
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From: Fischlin A. <and...@en...> - 2023-10-06 16:25:51
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Cher Bernard, Actually I encountered perhaps similar problems. More precisely: On Silicon Macs (M2, Mac Mini, MacBook Air) under macOS 13.6 (Ventura) I have not managed to get any keyboard shortcut working using simple tcl scripts. Despite all binding done correctly AFAIK no keyboard shortcut seems to be working. I tried also all the examples from the Alpha help pages for keyboard bindings, none works. Moreover, I can’t get Alpha to execute a tcl procedure using an AppleScript such as the following tell application "Alpha" activate DoScript "batchEndnoteToFilemaker" end tell It seems the called procedure is never executed. Alpha remains dead to such calls from the outside, either the keyboard or an apple event as the one above. Note, no alerts, no error messages are shown. Moreover I wish to emphasize that calling any of tcl procedures bound to a keyboard shortcut or wanted for execution in response to DoScript can be executed fine using the tcl shell. Of course on an Intel Mac using an older Mac OS all the wanted functionality of Alpha is here. BTW, I already observed the ignoring of DoScript under macOS 12.7 (Monterey). As many of my most critical workflows depend on an Alpha responding to keyboard shortcuts or the DoScript command, I would greatly appreciate to learn more what is latest Alpha supposed to be able to accomplish on Silicon Macs under macOS 12 or higher. Should keyboard shortcuts work? Should the DoScript command from an AppleScript work? All my observations sketched above were made with Alpha 9.2.3 (“Suhail”) (10153). Amicalement, Andreas ETH Zurich Prof. em. Dr. Andreas Fischlin IPCC Vice-Chair WGII Systems Ecology - Institute of Biogeochemistry and Pollutant Dynamics CHN E 24 Universitaetstrasse 16 8092 Zurich SWITZERLAND and...@en... www.sysecol.ethz.ch/people/andreas.fischlin.html <http://www.sysecol.ethz.ch/people/andreas.fischlin.hml> +41 44 633-6090 phone +41 44 633-1136 fax +41 79 595-4050 mobile Make it as simple as possible, but distrust it! ________________________________________________________________________ > On Fri, 06.10.23, at 06:29, Geir Ellingsrud <ell...@ma...> wrote: > > I updated my Mac to Sonoma 14.0 which seems to have caused some problems with alpha and how the menus function. The menu short cuts have disappeared and it impossible to reset them. Secondly, when opening a menu and scrolling down several items stay highlighted. > > Hope you can help me! > > Bests, Geir E > _______________________________________________ > AlphaCocoa-devel mailing list > Alp...@li... <mailto:Alp...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alphacocoa-devel <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alphacocoa-devel> |
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From: Geir E. <ell...@ma...> - 2023-10-06 13:05:38
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I updated my Mac to Sonoma 14.0 which seems to have caused some problems with alpha and how the menus function. The menu short cuts have disappeared and it impossible to reset them. Secondly, when opening a menu and scrolling down several items stay highlighted. Hope you can help me! Bests, Geir E |
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From: jwq <jw...@us...> - 2023-02-21 22:01:54
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--- ** [tickets:#260] Paste into Document also Copies to Clipboard** **Status:** open **Created:** Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:01 PM UTC by jwq **Last Updated:** Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:01 PM UTC **Owner:** nobody I use the Copy 'Em clipboard manager and for some time I've observed that pasting into Alpha also places another copy onto the clipboard. This rapidly degrades the usefulness of Copy 'Em. I've looked, but cant' find a setting in Alpha which would control this; neither the Clipboard Preferences nor the Copy Ring features were activated. Incidentally, I tried to activate the Clipboard Preferences feature but then could not find the settings anywhere in the preferences, so there may be a bug with the composition of the preferences too. --- Sent from sourceforge.net because alp...@li... is subscribed to https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/ To unsubscribe from further messages, a project admin can change settings at https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/admin/tickets/options. Or, if this is a mailing list, you can unsubscribe from the mailing list. |
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From: Crispin G. <cri...@xt...> - 2022-11-11 02:46:47
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Can the horizontal scroll bar be turned off? For me this would be very convenient. |
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From: Chris S. <cs...@us...> - 2022-09-15 01:04:51
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--- ** [tickets:#259] Printing from built-in PDF viewer** **Status:** open **Created:** Thu Sep 15, 2022 01:04 AM UTC by Chris Skeels **Last Updated:** Thu Sep 15, 2022 01:04 AM UTC **Owner:** nobody Hi Bernard, It would be great if printing from the built-in pdf viewer in TeX mode could be implemented. As things stand, printing the document will print the TeX source file rather than the compiled pdf. Cheers, Chris. --- Sent from sourceforge.net because alp...@li... is subscribed to https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/ To unsubscribe from further messages, a project admin can change settings at https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/admin/tickets/options. Or, if this is a mailing list, you can unsubscribe from the mailing list. |
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From: Chris S. <cs...@us...> - 2022-09-15 01:01:38
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Hi Bernard, I can't remember the last time that I saw this problem. I think that this ticket should be marked as fixed and closed. Another ticket can be opened if this problem ever raises its ugly head again. Cheers, Chris. --- ** [tickets:#251] Strange hang** **Status:** open **Created:** Thu Apr 22, 2021 06:00 AM UTC by Chris Skeels **Last Updated:** Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:05 AM UTC **Owner:** nobody **Attachments:** - [Problem Report.txt](https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/251/attachment/Problem%20Report.txt) (3.0 MB; text/plain) Every now and then, not often, I find that Alpha hangs for no apparent reason. This most recent time I caught the report that would have been sent to Apple, in case this is of any benefit at all. It doesn't happen so often that it is a major event, but it is always annoying when it does happen. Like as not it is interaction with something else on my machine rather than Alpha itself. --- Sent from sourceforge.net because alp...@li... is subscribed to https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/ To unsubscribe from further messages, a project admin can change settings at https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/admin/tickets/options. Or, if this is a mailing list, you can unsubscribe from the mailing list. |
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From: Dr E. W L. <el...@li...> - 2022-07-21 06:05:56
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Is TeX installed? el -- Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse \ / Obstetrician & Gynaecologist el...@li... / * | Telephone: +264 81 124 6733 (cell) PO Box 8421 Bachbrecht \ / If this email is signed with GPG/PGP 10007, Namibia ;____/ Sect 20 of Act No. 4 of 2019 may apply On 21. Jul 2022, 00:36 +0200, Geir Ellingsrud <ell...@ma...>, wrote: > I have just got a new Mac and try to install Alpha, but I have run into a serious problem as Alpha does no typesetting; the console returns: > > /bin/sh: line 1: pdflatex: command not found > TeX returned non zero exit status > > Warning: no log file found > > I have tried every thing I can think of, but to no avail. > My Mac runs macOS Big Sur 11.6.8 and Alpha 9.2.3 > > Help!! > > Geir > _______________________________________________ > AlphaCocoa-devel mailing list > Alp...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alphacocoa-devel |
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From: Geir E. <ell...@ma...> - 2022-07-20 21:48:07
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I have just got a new Mac and try to install Alpha, but I have run into a serious problem as Alpha does no typesetting; the console returns: /bin/sh: line 1: pdflatex: command not found TeX returned non zero exit status Warning: no log file found I have tried every thing I can think of, but to no avail. My Mac runs macOS Big Sur 11.6.8 and Alpha 9.2.3 Help!! Geir |
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From: Greg D. <gre...@in...> - 2022-04-12 05:24:10
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Hi, folks - some time ago I reported a situation with Alpha on my Mojave Intel-based machine which could not be reproduced by the dev team. To recap: after a document is open for a day or thereabouts, selecting a portion of the text and then clicking on the selection results in a noticeable delay before the cursor switches to the arrow and allows dragging of the text. The longer Alpha is running, the worse the delay gets, until it is actually several seconds before the cursor changes. Until the cursor changes, of course, dragging the text is not possible. Worse, I could not reproduce this on my other very similar Mac running Mojave. Opening a second document reveals that the delay is still there; in fact, closing all documents and opening a fresh one behaves the same; so the issue is related to how long Alpha has been running. Quitting Alpha and restarting it resets the delay but does not fix the problem. After trying several unsuccessful remedies, I assumed it must have been some kind of preference or background task which was misbehaving, so I let it be for a while. When I purchased a new M1 Mini, I installed Alpha and proceeded to test it again. Note: new machine, new OS (Monterey), fresh download of Alpha from the website. I did NOT transfer my user info from any other machine; this Mini is as delivered from the factory. I opened Alpha and left a document idle while I essentially left the machine alone for a day. I came back this morning, and lo - there was a noticeable delay in the cursor switch. Came back again this evening, and it is even longer. Behavior is the same as before, in all respects. Sorry to bring it up again, but it's pretty clear that this is not an issue with my one machine, the OS, or an old installation of Alpha. In fact, since the applications on the new machine (as delivered) are pretty much all M1-based and freshly installed, it's very unlikely that it's related to an old app installation on the machine. I'm totally out of ideas here. I don't expect a "eureka" moment here, but I felt obligated to report this because it's one of the strangest issues I've ever had with an application. If anyone feels like looking into it further, I'll be glad to help in any way I can. Obviously it will be a slow journey, because it takes about a day for the problem to manifest perceptibly, after launching Alpha and opening a document. As a workaround, I quit Alpha every time I am going to be away from the machine - if I remember. The launch is fast enough on the M1 that this is not an intolerable burden. ;-) -- | Greg Dunn | You take, Zathras die; you leave, | | gre...@in... | Zathras die. Either way, is bad | | The Sultan of Slack(tm) | for Zathras. | | http://www.indy.net/~gregdunn/ | Zathras | |
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From: L. P. <lau...@us...> - 2022-02-15 08:30:55
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** [tickets:#257] Error Domain=NSCocoaErrorDomain ... Permission denied**
**Status:** open
**Created:** Tue Feb 15, 2022 08:12 AM UTC by Laurent PRALY
**Last Updated:** Tue Feb 15, 2022 08:12 AM UTC
**Owner:** nobody
After intsalling Alpha 9.2.3 with osx Monterey, I am getting the following error message in system.log
Feb 14 22:03:47 iMac-de-Odile Alpha[1824]: error: Error Domain=NSCocoaErrorDomain Code=513 "Vous n’êtes pas autorisé à enregistrer le fichier « Alpha » dans le dossier « Application Support »." UserInfo={NSFilePath=/Library/Application Support/Alpha, NSUnderlyingError=0x600001d81170 {Error Domain=NSPOSIXErrorDomain Code=13 "Permission denied"}}
Is there something I can do ?
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From: Dr E. W L. <el...@li...> - 2021-11-30 21:05:47
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Bernard,
did you get this?
el
On 2021-11-23 12:39 , Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> Bernard,
>
> I can not recall whether this has been raised before, is there a native
> M1 version of Alpha (for Monterey)? My Airbook M1 BtO has arrived :-)-O
>
> el
>
> On 21/05/2021 15:34, bde...@or... wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm pleased to announce the release of a new version of Alpha. This
>> is Alpha 9.2.3 ("Suhail
>> <https://alphacocoa.sourceforge.io/AlphaStar.html>") for Mac OS X
>> 10.11 or greater (El Capitan, Sierra, High Sierra, Mojave, Catalina,
>> Big Sur).
> [...]
>
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el...@li... / * | Telephone: +264 81 124 6733 (cell)
PO Box 8421 Bachbrecht \ / If this email is signed with GPG/PGP
10007, Namibia ;____/ Sect 20 of Act No. 4 of 2019 may apply
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From: Dr E. W L. <el...@li...> - 2021-11-23 10:56:51
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Bernard,
I can not recall whether this has been raised before, is there a native
M1 version of Alpha (for Monterey)? My Airbook M1 BtO has arrived :-)-O
el
On 21/05/2021 15:34, bde...@or... wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm pleased to announce the release of a new version of Alpha. This
> is Alpha 9.2.3 ("Suhail
> <https://alphacocoa.sourceforge.io/AlphaStar.html>") for Mac OS X
> 10.11 or greater (El Capitan, Sierra, High Sierra, Mojave, Catalina,
> Big Sur).
[...]
--
Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse \ / Obstetrician & Gynaecologist
el...@li... / * | Telephone: +264 81 124 6733 (cell)
PO Box 8421 Bachbrecht \ / If this email is signed with GPG/PGP
10007, Namibia ;____/ Sect 20 of Act No. 4 of 2019 may apply
Book your Covid-19 Vaccination at https://c19.idtoday.com.na
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From: Bernard D. <bde...@us...> - 2021-06-25 15:15:55
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Hi John, thank you for reporting. I'll look into this. --- ** [tickets:#255] Window Woes** **Status:** open **Created:** Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:52 PM UTC by John **Last Updated:** Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:52 PM UTC **Owner:** nobody I've noticed a problem with the window handling recently. I can't say if this arose in the latest version or a slightly older version. There are two seeminly related issues here. 1. When I press Cmd-H or select Hide from the Alpha menu to hide Alpha, it flashes and switches to the background, but then reappears behind the front window of the newly fronted application, regardless of what application I switch to. This happens regardless of which window is frontmost in Alpha. 2. When I Cmd-Tab from Alpha to Finder, the frontmost Finder window comes forward, but the other windows just flash and then fall behind Alpha's frontmost document window. Interestingly, the TeX console window remains behind all the Finder windows. Also, if the console window is frontmost when I initiate the Cmd-Tab, the switch happens correctly: All the Finder windows jump in front of all the Alpha windows. Another issue that may be related is that when I process a TeX file (Cmd-T), the TeX console window jumps forward, as expected. Then, Alpha passes the PDF to Skim and falls to the background, as expected, and the Alpha main document window jumps in front of the console window. However, if I then Cmd-Tab back to Alpha, the TeX console jumps in front of the document window. It's all very strange. Thanks for thinking about this, John --- Sent from sourceforge.net because alp...@li... is subscribed to https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/ To unsubscribe from further messages, a project admin can change settings at https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/admin/tickets/options. Or, if this is a mailing list, you can unsubscribe from the mailing list. |
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From: John <uni...@us...> - 2021-06-22 23:52:50
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--- ** [tickets:#255] Window Woes** **Status:** open **Created:** Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:52 PM UTC by John **Last Updated:** Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:52 PM UTC **Owner:** nobody I've noticed a problem with the window handling recently. I can't say if this arose in the latest version or a slightly older version. There are two seeminly related issues here. 1. When I press Cmd-H or select Hide from the Alpha menu to hide Alpha, it flashes and switches to the background, but then reappears behind the front window of the newly fronted application, regardless of what application I switch to. This happens regardless of which window is frontmost in Alpha. 2. When I Cmd-Tab from Alpha to Finder, the frontmost Finder window comes forward, but the other windows just flash and then fall behind Alpha's frontmost document window. Interestingly, the TeX console window remains behind all the Finder windows. Also, if the console window is frontmost when I initiate the Cmd-Tab, the switch happens correctly: All the Finder windows jump in front of all the Alpha windows. Another issue that may be related is that when I process a TeX file (Cmd-T), the TeX console window jumps forward, as expected. Then, Alpha passes the PDF to Skim and falls to the background, as expected, and the Alpha main document window jumps in front of the console window. However, if I then Cmd-Tab back to Alpha, the TeX console jumps in front of the document window. It's all very strange. Thanks for thinking about this, John --- Sent from sourceforge.net because alp...@li... is subscribed to https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/ To unsubscribe from further messages, a project admin can change settings at https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/admin/tickets/options. Or, if this is a mailing list, you can unsubscribe from the mailing list. |
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From: Chris S. <cs...@us...> - 2021-06-02 10:49:28
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Not on the machine I am using the most at the moment. I will upgrade. On 2 Jun 2021, at 8:05 pm, Bernard Desgraupes via AlphaCocoa-devel <alp...@li...<mailto:alp...@li...>> wrote: External email: Please exercise caution ________________________________ Hi Chris, are you using the new Alpha 9.2.3 ? ________________________________ [tickets:#251]<https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/251> Strange hang Status: open Created: Thu Apr 22, 2021 06:00 AM UTC by Chris Skeels Last Updated: Wed Jun 02, 2021 07:08 AM UTC Owner: nobody Attachments: * Problem Report.txt<https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/251/attachment/Problem%20Report.txt> (3.0 MB; text/plain) Every now and then, not often, I find that Alpha hangs for no apparent reason. This most recent time I caught the report that would have been sent to Apple, in case this is of any benefit at all. It doesn't happen so often that it is a major event, but it is always annoying when it does happen. Like as not it is interaction with something else on my machine rather than Alpha itself. ________________________________ Sent from sourceforge.net<http://sourceforge.net> because alp...@li...<mailto:alp...@li...> is subscribed to https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/<https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/> To unsubscribe from further messages, a project admin can change settings at https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/admin/tickets/options.<https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/admin/tickets/options.> Or, if this is a mailing list, you can unsubscribe from the mailing list. _______________________________________________ AlphaCocoa-devel mailing list Alp...@li...<mailto:Alp...@li...> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alphacocoa-devel --- ** [tickets:#251] Strange hang** **Status:** open **Created:** Thu Apr 22, 2021 06:00 AM UTC by Chris Skeels **Last Updated:** Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:05 AM UTC **Owner:** nobody **Attachments:** - [Problem Report.txt](https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/251/attachment/Problem%20Report.txt) (3.0 MB; text/plain) Every now and then, not often, I find that Alpha hangs for no apparent reason. This most recent time I caught the report that would have been sent to Apple, in case this is of any benefit at all. It doesn't happen so often that it is a major event, but it is always annoying when it does happen. Like as not it is interaction with something else on my machine rather than Alpha itself. --- Sent from sourceforge.net because alp...@li... is subscribed to https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/ To unsubscribe from further messages, a project admin can change settings at https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/admin/tickets/options. Or, if this is a mailing list, you can unsubscribe from the mailing list. |
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From: Bernard D. <bde...@us...> - 2021-06-02 10:05:00
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Hi Chris, are you using the new Alpha 9.2.3 ? --- ** [tickets:#251] Strange hang** **Status:** open **Created:** Thu Apr 22, 2021 06:00 AM UTC by Chris Skeels **Last Updated:** Wed Jun 02, 2021 07:08 AM UTC **Owner:** nobody **Attachments:** - [Problem Report.txt](https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/251/attachment/Problem%20Report.txt) (3.0 MB; text/plain) Every now and then, not often, I find that Alpha hangs for no apparent reason. This most recent time I caught the report that would have been sent to Apple, in case this is of any benefit at all. It doesn't happen so often that it is a major event, but it is always annoying when it does happen. Like as not it is interaction with something else on my machine rather than Alpha itself. --- Sent from sourceforge.net because alp...@li... is subscribed to https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/ To unsubscribe from further messages, a project admin can change settings at https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/admin/tickets/options. Or, if this is a mailing list, you can unsubscribe from the mailing list. |
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From: Chris S. <cs...@us...> - 2021-06-02 07:36:38
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Hi Bernard, The % character has certainly been there on occasion, as does the notion of automatic line breaking (which I do have turned on). That said, it is one of those things that was infrequent and not something that I was ever thinking about until it started happening, whereupon it was a bugger to get rid of. Anyway, what you describe has that ring of familiarity to it. I would be happy if my bug was marked as a duplicate of the earlier ones and, if it persists after the next upgrade, it can always be re-opened. Cheers, Chris. On 2 Jun 2021, at 5:08 pm, Bernard Desgraupes <bde...@us...<mailto:bde...@us...>> wrote: External email: Please exercise caution ________________________________ Hi Chris, Bugs #246 and #249 have been explicitly fixed. I don't know if this is the same problem as the one you encounter but here are the circumstances that triggered the apparent freeze: it occurred potentially in any mode provided the current document had Automatic Line Breaking turned on and there was an escaped comment character in the current line. For instance, in TeX mode (where the comment symbol is %), a line like Optimus pretosius corrumperet ossifragi \% catelli... triggered the freeze when the cursor's position reached the maximum line length (usually position 70 on the line) and also during a reflow with cmd-I. A quoted comment character (like "%" in TeX mode) had the same effect. In Tcl mode, \# or "#" would cause the problem etc. Explanation: when deciding to break a line or not, Alpha checks whether the current line is a comment or not, so it looks for a true comment symbol (that would not be escaped or enclosed in quotes). There was unfortunately a mistake in the code: the start position of the search was not properly updated so Alpha kept looking from the same position again, and again, and again... This has been fixed in Alpha 9.2.3. Do you observe the same or similar circumstances ? ________________________________ [tickets:#251]<https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/251> Strange hang Status: open Created: Thu Apr 22, 2021 06:00 AM UTC by Chris Skeels Last Updated: Tue Jun 01, 2021 08:37 PM UTC Owner: nobody Attachments: * Problem Report.txt<https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/251/attachment/Problem%20Report.txt> (3.0 MB; text/plain) Every now and then, not often, I find that Alpha hangs for no apparent reason. This most recent time I caught the report that would have been sent to Apple, in case this is of any benefit at all. It doesn't happen so often that it is a major event, but it is always annoying when it does happen. Like as not it is interaction with something else on my machine rather than Alpha itself. ________________________________ Sent from sourceforge.net<http://sourceforge.net> because you indicated interest in https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/251/<https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/251/> To unsubscribe from further messages, please visit https://sourceforge.net/auth/subscriptions/<https://sourceforge.net/auth/subscriptions> --- ** [tickets:#251] Strange hang** **Status:** open **Created:** Thu Apr 22, 2021 06:00 AM UTC by Chris Skeels **Last Updated:** Wed Jun 02, 2021 07:08 AM UTC **Owner:** nobody **Attachments:** - [Problem Report.txt](https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/251/attachment/Problem%20Report.txt) (3.0 MB; text/plain) Every now and then, not often, I find that Alpha hangs for no apparent reason. This most recent time I caught the report that would have been sent to Apple, in case this is of any benefit at all. It doesn't happen so often that it is a major event, but it is always annoying when it does happen. Like as not it is interaction with something else on my machine rather than Alpha itself. --- Sent from sourceforge.net because alp...@li... is subscribed to https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/ To unsubscribe from further messages, a project admin can change settings at https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/admin/tickets/options. Or, if this is a mailing list, you can unsubscribe from the mailing list. |
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From: Bernard D. <bde...@us...> - 2021-06-02 07:08:51
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Hi Chris, Bugs #246 and #249 have been explicitly fixed. I don't know if this is the same problem as the one you encounter but here are the circumstances that triggered the apparent freeze: it occurred potentially in any mode provided the current document had *Automatic Line Breaking* turned on and there was an *escaped* comment character in the current line. For instance, in TeX mode (where the comment symbol is `%`), a line like ``` Optimus pretosius corrumperet ossifragi \% catelli... ``` triggered the freeze when the cursor's position reached the maximum line length (usually position 70 on the line) and also during a reflow with cmd-I. A quoted comment character (like "%" in TeX mode) had the same effect. In Tcl mode, `\#` or `"#"` would cause the problem etc. Explanation: when deciding to break a line or not, Alpha checks whether the current line is a comment or not, so it looks for a true comment symbol (that would not be escaped or enclosed in quotes). There was unfortunately a mistake in the code: the start position of the search was not properly updated so Alpha kept looking from the same position again, and again, and again... This has been fixed in Alpha 9.2.3. Do you observe the same or similar circumstances ? --- ** [tickets:#251] Strange hang** **Status:** open **Created:** Thu Apr 22, 2021 06:00 AM UTC by Chris Skeels **Last Updated:** Tue Jun 01, 2021 08:37 PM UTC **Owner:** nobody **Attachments:** - [Problem Report.txt](https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/251/attachment/Problem%20Report.txt) (3.0 MB; text/plain) Every now and then, not often, I find that Alpha hangs for no apparent reason. This most recent time I caught the report that would have been sent to Apple, in case this is of any benefit at all. It doesn't happen so often that it is a major event, but it is always annoying when it does happen. Like as not it is interaction with something else on my machine rather than Alpha itself. --- Sent from sourceforge.net because alp...@li... is subscribed to https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/ To unsubscribe from further messages, a project admin can change settings at https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/admin/tickets/options. Or, if this is a mailing list, you can unsubscribe from the mailing list. |
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From: Chris S. <cs...@us...> - 2021-06-01 20:37:16
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That previous post should have said TeX mode not text. This, I believe ,is just a repeat of Bug #249, which I notice that you have just closed. Has something happened for it to be resolved? It continues to happen for me, although I am still yet to find the cause. That said, it is a tenacious problem once it occurs. It will continually happen at a particular point in the text, no obvious pattern as to which point, although always towards where a line break should ordinarily occur. Once it happens then simply adding further text to the line, even a carriage return will freeze Alpha, it does not require cmd-I to induce the problem. The same problem will not necessarily occur elsewhere in the file and sometimes you can get around it (adding text to the next line will sometimes enable the paragraph to be re-flowed, but not always. I wish I had something more useful to contribute. Cheers, Chris --- ** [tickets:#251] Strange hang** **Status:** open **Created:** Thu Apr 22, 2021 06:00 AM UTC by Chris Skeels **Last Updated:** Tue Jun 01, 2021 08:28 PM UTC **Owner:** nobody **Attachments:** - [Problem Report.txt](https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/251/attachment/Problem%20Report.txt) (3.0 MB; text/plain) Every now and then, not often, I find that Alpha hangs for no apparent reason. This most recent time I caught the report that would have been sent to Apple, in case this is of any benefit at all. It doesn't happen so often that it is a major event, but it is always annoying when it does happen. Like as not it is interaction with something else on my machine rather than Alpha itself. --- Sent from sourceforge.net because alp...@li... is subscribed to https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/ To unsubscribe from further messages, a project admin can change settings at https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/admin/tickets/options. Or, if this is a mailing list, you can unsubscribe from the mailing list. |
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