From: Maarten B. <sou...@ds...> - 2009-07-29 20:31:04
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Dear developers, Has anyone already seen and reacted to this? If not which wiki should we migrate to? I'm afraid that if we do not react our wiki will just be removed. Maarten ------------------------- Oorspronkelijk bericht ------------------------- Onderwerp: Wikispaces being removed from SourceForge.net 2009-07-30 Van: "SourceForge.net Team" <no...@so...> Datum: Wo, juli 29, 2009 21:45 Aan: sou...@ds... -------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thursday July 30, 2009 at 8:00 AM Pacific Time, the SourceForge.net staff will be removing the Wikispaces facility that has been available to project teams since 2007. Project teams who have not yet migrated to one of the Hosted Apps wiki facilities, Trac or MediaWiki, may opt for one of two choices on SourceForge.net; Migration to Trac or MediaWiki. To migrate to one of these facilities, the project admin who is also an admin for one of the facilities (MediaWiki or Trac), needs to log a support ticket (https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/newticket) and request migration to a specific facility. Be sure to specify your project UNIX name and to which facility you want your data imported (MediaWiki or Trac). The SourceForge.net team will use the dump of the project Wikispaces data in /home/groups/P/PR/PROJECT/wikispaces-dump.zip as an import source. It is critical that project teams do not move, rename, or otherwise manipulate this file prior to the import to the new facility. If you are importing data from Wikispaces to your existing Hosted App facility, like Trac, any data from Wikispaces will be additive to that structure. If there are pages of the same name, the new data will replace the existing data. Users may need to use the history facility to adjust the pages at that point. MediaWiki only supports image attachments, so any non-image attachments won't be imported to MediaWiki. Trac supports these, so this will work just fine for Trac implementations. Users will be able to access their zip files to recover any non-image attachments if they have selected MediaWiki as the new facility. Finally, we'd like to thank Wikispaces for their support of SourceForge.net and our users with this facility. Best regards, Daniel Hinojosa - Sr. Manager, SourceForge.net Support P.S., Be sure to monitor our Site Status page, https://sourceforge.net/sitestatus. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SourceForge.net has made this mailing to you as a registered user of the SourceForge.net site to convey important information regarding your SourceForge.net account or your use of SourceForge.net services. We make a small number of directed mailings to registered users each year regarding their account or data, to help preserve the security of their account or prevent loss of data or service access. If you have concerns about this mailing please contact our Support team per: http://sourceforge.net/support |
From: Raphael N. <rn...@we...> - 2009-07-29 23:13:55
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Hi, > Has anyone already seen and reacted to this? If not which wiki should we > migrate to? I'm afraid that if we do not react our wiki will just be > removed. I have not yet reacted, and I won't/cannot -- not being an admin of the project. >> To migrate to one of these facilities, the project admin who is also an >> admin for one of the facilities (MediaWiki or Trac), needs to log a >> support ticket (https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/newticket) >> and request migration to a specific facility. Be sure to specify your >> project UNIX name and to which facility you want your data imported >> (MediaWiki or Trac). I would vote for a migration to MediaWiki -- we already have the Bug Tracker in place and should probably not open up another bug tracking/ trouble ticket facility (if I recall correctly, we also voted to consolidate the mailing lists/fora/...?) >> MediaWiki only supports image attachments, so any non-image attachments >> won't be imported to MediaWiki. Trac supports these, so this will work >> just fine for Trac implementations. Users will be able to access their >> zip files to recover any non-image attachments if they have selected >> MediaWiki as the new facility. I am not sure but I doubt that there are any attachments other that images (if any) so this should not be a problem. Borut may know more about the Wiki ... Best regards, Raphael |
From: Frieder F. <fri...@we...> - 2009-07-30 15:04:38
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Hi Maarten, > ------------------------- Oorspronkelijk bericht ------------------------- > Onderwerp: Wikispaces being removed from SourceForge.net 2009-07-30 > Van: "SourceForge.net Team" <no...@so...> > Datum: Wo, juli 29, 2009 21:45 > Aan: sou...@ds... > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The SourceForge.net team will use the dump of the project Wikispaces data > in /home/groups/P/PR/PROJECT/wikispaces-dump.zip as an import source. It is do we have that dump? > MediaWiki only supports image attachments, so any non-image attachments > won't be imported to MediaWiki. ... So it's not MediaWiki? Greetings, Frieder |
From: Raphael N. <rn...@we...> - 2009-07-30 15:57:24
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Hi, >> ------------------------- Oorspronkelijk bericht Onderwerp: Wikispaces >> being removed from SourceForge.net 2009-07-30 >> Van: "SourceForge.net Team" <no...@so...> >> Datum: Wo, juli 29, 2009 21:45 >> Aan: sou...@ds... >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- > >> The SourceForge.net team will use the dump of the project Wikispaces >> data >> in /home/groups/P/PR/PROJECT/wikispaces-dump.zip as an import source. >> It is > > do we have that dump? I have acquired a sdcc_20090730.tgz (plain text dump of all Wiki pages) and a sdcc_20090730-html.tgz (html-export of the Wiki) tonight. This was possible after logging in to sf.net and requesting such archives from the Wiki directly. I do not know if that's what can be imported into MediaWiki/Trac, but at least the data is preserved (see attachment, removed unreferenced untitled.jpg due to size limitations on the list). >> MediaWiki only supports image attachments, so any non-image attachments >> won't be imported to MediaWiki. > > ... So it's not MediaWiki? After my previous post (while inspecting the archives) I found that Philipp (pkk) has in fact non-image attachments to the Wiki: sample programs (.c-files) for object size comparisons. So if it is not too late (the Wiki seems to be history by now), migrating to Trac seems to be the easier path to allow such usage in the future. Can one disable the TRACking facilities in trac? On does it integrate seemlessly into the svn without further magic (besides setting up a post-commit hook to notify trac of new commits)? Can trac take over the current bug tracker item?!? Does anyone have any insights into these systems?!? Best regards, Raphael |
From: Borut R. <bor...@si...> - 2009-07-30 18:41:35
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Raphael Neider wrote: >>> The SourceForge.net team will use the dump of the project Wikispaces >>> data >>> in /home/groups/P/PR/PROJECT/wikispaces-dump.zip as an import >>> source. It is >> >> do we have that dump? > > I have acquired a sdcc_20090730.tgz (plain text dump of all Wiki pages) > and a sdcc_20090730-html.tgz (html-export of the Wiki) tonight. This was > possible after logging in to sf.net and requesting such archives from > the Wiki directly. I do not know if that's what can be imported into > MediaWiki/Trac, but at least the data is preserved (see attachment, > removed unreferenced untitled.jpg due to size limitations on the list). > The dump is available at /home/groups/s/sd/sdcc/wikispaces-dump.zip >>> MediaWiki only supports image attachments, so any non-image attachments >>> won't be imported to MediaWiki. >> >> ... So it's not MediaWiki? > > After my previous post (while inspecting the archives) I found that > Philipp (pkk) has in fact non-image attachments to the Wiki: sample > programs (.c-files) for object size comparisons. So if it is not too > late (the Wiki seems to be history by now), migrating to Trac seems > to be the easier path to allow such usage in the future. Can one > disable the TRACking facilities in trac? On does it integrate > seemlessly into the svn without further magic (besides setting up a > post-commit hook to notify trac of new commits)? Can trac take over > the current bug tracker item?!? > > Does anyone have any insights into these systems?!? > I know MediaWiki quite well, I installed it and I'm using it at home and at work. There is really a problem to make attachments of non supported types. This can be configured in LocalSettings.php, but I don't know if SF will give us the access to it... I didn't know much about trac until now. I took a look on it and I have to say that I like it: it is "all in one". But we already have wed svn access and defect tracking system, so it seems to be an overhead and duplication of functionality. If we decide for track, it would be nice to migrate everything to it, but I'm afraid that this is not possible. Maybe we could ask SF maintainer to give us a little more info? P.S.: I'm surprised about such a quick decision to drop the Wikispaces support. Maybe they announced it some time ago, but I haven't noticed it? P.S.: I didn't like Wikispaces anyway... Borut |
From: Maarten B. <sou...@ds...> - 2009-07-30 19:58:35
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Hi again, I know practically nothing about wikis. I only inserted some some content from time to time. So I don't really have an opinion about which wiki replacement to choose. I too was surprised by the email about the discontinuation. I think I had seen it mentioned on SF somewhere, but I don't recall an earlier email like we had for the forum and even that is still not migrated. If the Trac tracker system isn't worse than what we use now on SF I don't mind switching, though we probably need help from SF for that too. Trac also seems to use subversion for version control, so that doesn't change I suppose. Borut, if possible, would you please take this upon yourself and submit the SF-tracker issue for migration as mentioned in the email from SF? Let's start with using the wiki and ask if they plan to help with migrating the tracker system too. I hope (assume) they can still perform the wiki migration from the archive. Greets, Maarten > Raphael Neider wrote: >>>> The SourceForge.net team will use the dump of the project Wikispaces >>>> data >>>> in /home/groups/P/PR/PROJECT/wikispaces-dump.zip as an import >>>> source. It is >>> >>> do we have that dump? >> >> I have acquired a sdcc_20090730.tgz (plain text dump of all Wiki pages) >> and a sdcc_20090730-html.tgz (html-export of the Wiki) tonight. This was >> possible after logging in to sf.net and requesting such archives from >> the Wiki directly. I do not know if that's what can be imported into >> MediaWiki/Trac, but at least the data is preserved (see attachment, >> removed unreferenced untitled.jpg due to size limitations on the list). >> > > The dump is available at /home/groups/s/sd/sdcc/wikispaces-dump.zip > >>>> MediaWiki only supports image attachments, so any non-image >>>> attachments >>>> won't be imported to MediaWiki. >>> >>> ... So it's not MediaWiki? >> >> After my previous post (while inspecting the archives) I found that >> Philipp (pkk) has in fact non-image attachments to the Wiki: sample >> programs (.c-files) for object size comparisons. So if it is not too >> late (the Wiki seems to be history by now), migrating to Trac seems >> to be the easier path to allow such usage in the future. Can one >> disable the TRACking facilities in trac? On does it integrate >> seemlessly into the svn without further magic (besides setting up a >> post-commit hook to notify trac of new commits)? Can trac take over >> the current bug tracker item?!? >> >> Does anyone have any insights into these systems?!? >> > > I know MediaWiki quite well, I installed it and I'm using it at home and > at work. There is really a problem to make attachments of non supported > types. This can be configured in LocalSettings.php, but I don't know if > SF will give us the access to it... > > I didn't know much about trac until now. I took a look on it and I have > to say that I like it: it is "all in one". But we already have wed svn > access and defect tracking system, so it seems to be an overhead and > duplication of functionality. If we decide for track, it would be nice > to migrate everything to it, but I'm afraid that this is not possible. > > > Maybe we could ask SF maintainer to give us a little more info? > > P.S.: I'm surprised about such a quick decision to drop the Wikispaces > support. Maybe they announced it some time ago, but I haven't noticed it? > > P.S.: I didn't like Wikispaces anyway... > > Borut |
From: Maarten B. <sou...@ds...> - 2009-07-30 20:08:42
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Some more on this. I said: > I too was surprised by the email about the discontinuation. I think I had > seen it mentioned on SF somewhere, but I don't recall an earlier email > like we had for the forum and even that is still not migrated. Now I looked again on the Site Status Page and browsed through the messages, but I did not see any mention of discontinuing the wikispaces. This really came falling out of a clear blue sky. Maarten |
From: Borut R. <bor...@si...> - 2009-07-30 21:03:53
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Maarten Brock wrote: > Borut, if possible, would you please take this upon yourself and submit > the SF-tracker issue for migration as mentioned in the email from SF? > Let's start with using the wiki and ask if they plan to help with > migrating the tracker system too. I hope (assume) they can still perform > the wiki migration from the archive. > Done, see https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/ticket/3249 Borut |
From: Borut R. <bor...@si...> - 2009-07-30 21:14:42
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sdcc Trac is at https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sdcc please don't touch it (make any modifications) until the wiki migration is performed. Borut Borut Razem wrote: > Maarten Brock wrote: >> Borut, if possible, would you please take this upon yourself and submit >> the SF-tracker issue for migration as mentioned in the email from SF? >> Let's start with using the wiki and ask if they plan to help with >> migrating the tracker system too. I hope (assume) they can still perform >> the wiki migration from the archive. >> > > Done, see https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/ticket/3249 > > Borut > |
From: Borut R. <bor...@si...> - 2009-07-30 21:24:01
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Migration to Trac is a good opportunity to move the sdcc web to Trac wiki too. But I'm not sure if it is possible to protect some wiki pages from being modified by anyone, while allowing it for other pages. If this is not possible, we could use MediaWiki as replacement for sdcc web pages and Trac as replacement for the sdcc wiki... Borut Borut Razem wrote: > sdcc Trac is at https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sdcc > > please don't touch it (make any modifications) until the wiki migration > is performed. > > Borut > > |
From: Borut R. <bor...@si...> - 2009-07-30 22:02:17
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I did some research and found out that the Trac administrator (user with WIKI_ADMIN privileges) can create read-only pages. So we can move sdcc web to Trac wiki. Borut Borut Razem wrote: > Migration to Trac is a good opportunity to move the sdcc web to Trac > wiki too. But I'm not sure if it is possible to protect some wiki pages > from being modified by anyone, while allowing it for other pages. If > this is not possible, we could use MediaWiki as replacement for sdcc web > pages and Trac as replacement for the sdcc wiki... > > Borut > |
From: Raphael N. <rn...@we...> - 2009-07-31 16:55:25
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Nice work so far - the Wiki seems to have been migrated to Trac. Thank you, Borut! |