Re: [Zabbix-translators] problems with brazilian portuguese translation

[Adail H. <the...@gm...>]

Hi Jan,

   I´m cheking now.

I will add a comment on words with "singular / plural" translation to "Plural
Form 0 / Plural Form 1"

  I think this is a bug ?

Adail Horst
OCA/OCP - Oracle Application Server
ZABBIX Certified Specialist
http://www.spinola.net.br/blog (Blog sobre Zabbix e tecnologia)


On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Jan Garaj <jan...@gm...> wrote:

> Hi Adail,
> congratulation, you are on 2nd place at the moment :-). My Slovak is 1st.
> I think that 100% China translation was 1st a few days ago.
> BTW: check also standard translation mistakes (newlines, end dot, ....):
> https://www.zabbix.org/pootle/pt_BR/Zabbix-trunk/review.html
>
> *Jan Garaj*
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>
>
> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Adail Horst <the...@gm...> wrote:
>
>> DOOOOOONE !
>> Brazilian translation is 100% done... BUT... i will review many words
>> (because i translate a lot of words heheheehh)...
>>
>> Is the frist one ?
>>
>> Adail Horst
>> OCA/OCP - Oracle Application Server
>> ZABBIX Certified Specialist
>> http://www.spinola.net.br/blog (Blog sobre Zabbix e tecnologia)
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Adail Horst <the...@gm...> wrote:
>>
>>> Whell... 2 plural forms ? Is not a singular and a plural ???
>>>
>>>
>>> Adail Horst
>>> OCA/OCP - Oracle Application Server
>>> ZABBIX Certified Specialist
>>> http://www.spinola.net.br/blog (Blog sobre Zabbix e tecnologia)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Oleksiy Zagorskyi <zalex_ua@i.ua>wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Jan, the orphaned "hassuggestion" entries it's a bug (I believe) of
>>>> pootle.
>>>> I observed them once, then I prepared a SQL to delete them from
>>>> pootle's DB, Rich did it, but later they have appeared again.
>>>>
>>>> Looks like I fount some part of SQL related to the case, or it's a full
>>>> SQL - I'm not sure:
>>>> SELECT s.unit, s.creation_time, s.translation_project_id, s.state,
>>>> u.username, t.id, t.pootle_path
>>>> FROM pootle_app_suggestion s, auth_user u,
>>>> pootle_app_translationproject t
>>>> WHERE u.username like 'admin'
>>>> AND s.state like 'pending'
>>>> AND t.id=s.translation_project_id
>>>>
>>>> Probably Rich could try it now (he has an access for SQLs).
>>>>
>>>>  Yes, we both with Dotneft intensively used the "suggestions feature"
>>>> in the Pootle.
>>>> I guess it might happen for example when some string having a
>>>> suggestion and it being deleted from pootle during sync etc.
>>>>
>>>> It was on a Russian translation where I'm and Dotneft are working on.
>>>> Now I gust ignore it.
>>>> For example https://www.zabbix.org/pootle/ru/Zabbix-2.0/review.htmlsays that there are 25 such strings, but if you will try you will see
>>>> suggestions only for two strings.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Oleksiy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 28/08/13 15:11, Jan Garaj wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It's weird, but you (we) don't translate singular form, but only plural
>>>> (see my attachment).
>>>> For pt_BR "Plural Form 0" is when count is =1, otherwise is used
>>>> "Plural Form 1". So Pootle is validating your translation with Plural
>>>> original form. And if Pootle don't match count of printf variable, it raise
>>>> printf issue.
>>>> My workaround for my Slovak translation is using all printf variables
>>>> in translation (also in "Plural fForm 0"). Maybe it's not good solution, I
>>>> didn't check my translation on live Zabbix at the moment. I didn't find any
>>>> related docs about Pootle - only
>>>> http://docs.translatehouse.org/projects/localization-guide/en/latest/l10n/pluralforms.html
>>>>
>>>>  BTW: Pootle has also another issue (or feature). I have some
>>>> "hassuggestion" issues, which are not available (I cannot filter it)
>>>> https://www.zabbix.org/pootle/sk/Zabbix-trunk/review.html (Slovak
>>>> translation of 2.0 and also trunk project has this issue).
>>>>
>>>>  *Jan Garaj*
>>>> Email/IM: jan...@gm...
>>>>    Mobile: *+44 79 234 69004* (*+421 949 113 911*)
>>>>      Web: http://www.jangaraj.com
>>>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/jangaraj
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Rihards <rih...@za...>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 08/28/2013 02:41 PM, Adail Horst wrote:
>>>>> > Jan,
>>>>> >
>>>>> >   Thanks for replay... but...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Look the ORIGINAL words:
>>>>> > Singular
>>>>> > At %2$s:%3$s on every %4$s of every week
>>>>> > My Singular
>>>>> > Às %2$s:%3$s de toda %4$s de cada semana
>>>>> >
>>>>> >   The original words dont have %1$s ... so... I not insert the %1$s
>>>>> > because in original version this "%1$s" not exists...
>>>>>
>>>>>  yes, current version looks ok to me. let's skip it for now, i'll look
>>>>> into it after we have pootle upgraded ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> > In plural form I have "%1$s" and insert like original:
>>>>> > Plural
>>>>> > At %2$s:%3$s on every %4$s of every %1$s weeks
>>>>> > My Plural
>>>>> > Às %2$s:%3$s de toda %4$s a cada %1$s semanas
>>>>> >
>>>>> >    I think I use the same structure with all "tags" ?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Best Regards,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Adail Horst
>>>>> > OCA/OCP - Oracle Application Server
>>>>> > ZABBIX Certified Specialist
>>>>> > http://www.spinola.net.br/blog (Blog sobre Zabbix e tecnologia)
>>>>>  ...
>>>>> --
>>>>>  Rihards
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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