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From: Joris V. <jbv...@gm...> - 2010-04-08 18:32:16
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CGFont.createFromDataProider should be renamed to type in CGFont.createFromDataProvider |
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From: Björn C. <bj...@ca...> - 2010-04-09 15:07:21
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http://daringfireball.net/2010/04/iphone_agreement_bans_flash_compiler |
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From: Sascha H. <sa...@xm...> - 2010-04-09 15:47:43
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Björn, we are aware of this and are currently investigating the situation. We don't feel confident at this point to say XMLVM is safe or not. We know that this affects most people in the XMLVM community, so we will update you as soon as we know more. Thanks // Sascha On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Björn Caroll <bj...@ca...>wrote: > http://daringfireball.net/2010/04/iphone_agreement_bans_flash_compiler > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > _______________________________________________ > xmlvm-users mailing list > xml...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users > |
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From: Arno P. <ar...@pu...> - 2010-04-09 16:18:59
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Guys, we have certainly noticed this change in the iPhone SDK license agreement. With the way the new agreement is formulated, Apple pretty much bars any cross-platform technology, including XMLVM, MonoTouch, and Adobe's planned offering to cross-compile Flash applications to the iPhone. Let give it some time and see what the final language will look like. In particular I'm looking forward to Adobe's and Novell's response to this. I'm just waiting for the license agreement to bar for-loops in Objective-C because Steve Jobs doesn't like them (ok, that's a German trying to be funny). From our side it is business as usual for now. Arno On 4/9/10 4:49 PM, Björn Caroll wrote: > http://daringfireball.net/2010/04/iphone_agreement_bans_flash_compiler > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > _______________________________________________ > xmlvm-users mailing list > xml...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users |
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From: William W. <wo...@al...> - 2010-04-09 21:26:20
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This may be of interest: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/04/09/apples_prohibition_of_flash_built_apps_in_iphone_4_0_related_to_multitasking.html On Apr 9, 2010, at 2:14 PM, Sascha Haeberling wrote: > Well, it's all about what Apple mean with "originally written". > > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Joris Verschoor <jbv...@gm... > > wrote: > But the code compiled is aobjective c and c++ code. There's nothing in > the license agreement about code generators > > 2010/4/9 Jürgen Jatzkowski <jj...@pa...>: > > Arno Puder schrieb: > > > > > I'm just waiting for the license agreement to bar for-loops in > > > Objective-C because Steve Jobs doesn't like them (ok, that's a > German > > > trying to be funny). > > > > ... let's wait for next iPhone SDK - hopefully Steve doesn't reads > this > > mailing list ;) > > > >> Guys, > >> > >> we have certainly noticed this change in the iPhone SDK license > >> agreement. With the way the new agreement is formulated, Apple > pretty > >> much bars any cross-platform technology, including XMLVM, > MonoTouch, and > >> Adobe's planned offering to cross-compile Flash applications to the > >> iPhone. Let give it some time and see what the final language > will look > >> like. In particular I'm looking forward to Adobe's and Novell's > response > >> to this. > >> > >> I'm just waiting for the license agreement to bar for-loops in > >> Objective-C because Steve Jobs doesn't like them (ok, that's a > German > >> trying to be funny). > >> > >> From our side it is business as usual for now. > >> > >> Arno > >> > >> > >> > >> On 4/9/10 4:49 PM, Björn Caroll wrote: > >> > >>> http://daringfireball.net/2010/04/iphone_agreement_bans_flash_compiler > >>> > >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > >>> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find > bugs > >>> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > >>> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> xmlvm-users mailing list > >>> xml...@li... > >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users > >>> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > >> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > >> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > >> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > >> _______________________________________________ > >> xmlvm-users mailing list > >> xml...@li... > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users > >> > > > > > > -- > > juergen jatzkowski > > jj...@pa... > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > > _______________________________________________ > > xmlvm-users mailing list > > xml...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > _______________________________________________ > xmlvm-users mailing list > xml...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev_______________________________________________ > xmlvm-users mailing list > xml...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users |
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From: Arno P. <ar...@pu...> - 2010-04-10 09:23:47
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I really don't understand what the author of this article is trying to say. What does multitasking have to do with the language you wrote the application in? Apple has taken a somewhat awkward approach to "multitasking". They only allow it for certain API. This API can easily be exposed in any programming language, be it Objective-C, Java, or C#. This is a mood point. No, I personally believe they want to go after Adobe and killed any cross-compilation approach in the process. It will be interesting to see the discussions around "originally written" and "compatibility layer" as mentioned in the new SDK license agreement. "Originally written": what does that mean? If you first write an Android app and then manually write an Objective-C version, is this still 'original'? "Compatibility layer": it is a very common approach in computer science to create abstractions through layers. If Electronic Arts for example created wrapper functions for the OpenGL API so they can more easily port it to other devices, you might call this a compatibility layer. Well, lets see where this leads to. I'm still looking forward to Adobe's and Novell's response to all of this. Arno On 4/9/10 11:26 PM, William Woody wrote: > This may be of interest: > > http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/04/09/apples_prohibition_of_flash_built_apps_in_iphone_4_0_related_to_multitasking.html > > > On Apr 9, 2010, at 2:14 PM, Sascha Haeberling wrote: > >> Well, it's all about what Apple mean with "originally written". >> >> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Joris Verschoor<jbv...@gm... >>> wrote: >> But the code compiled is aobjective c and c++ code. There's nothing in >> the license agreement about code generators >> >> 2010/4/9 Jürgen Jatzkowski<jj...@pa...>: >>> Arno Puder schrieb: >>> >>> > I'm just waiting for the license agreement to bar for-loops in >>> > Objective-C because Steve Jobs doesn't like them (ok, that's a >> German >>> > trying to be funny). >>> >>> ... let's wait for next iPhone SDK - hopefully Steve doesn't reads >> this >>> mailing list ;) >>> >>>> Guys, >>>> >>>> we have certainly noticed this change in the iPhone SDK license >>>> agreement. With the way the new agreement is formulated, Apple >> pretty >>>> much bars any cross-platform technology, including XMLVM, >> MonoTouch, and >>>> Adobe's planned offering to cross-compile Flash applications to the >>>> iPhone. Let give it some time and see what the final language >> will look >>>> like. In particular I'm looking forward to Adobe's and Novell's >> response >>>> to this. >>>> >>>> I'm just waiting for the license agreement to bar for-loops in >>>> Objective-C because Steve Jobs doesn't like them (ok, that's a >> German >>>> trying to be funny). >>>> >>>> From our side it is business as usual for now. >>>> >>>> Arno >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4/9/10 4:49 PM, Björn Caroll wrote: >>>> >>>>> http://daringfireball.net/2010/04/iphone_agreement_bans_flash_compiler >>>>> >>>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >>>>> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find >> bugs >>>>> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >>>>> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> xmlvm-users mailing list >>>>> xml...@li... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users >>>>> >>>> >>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >>>> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >>>> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >>>> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> xmlvm-users mailing list >>>> xml...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> juergen jatzkowski >>> jj...@pa... >>> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >>> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >>> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >>> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> xmlvm-users mailing list >>> xml...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users >>> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >> _______________________________________________ >> xmlvm-users mailing list >> xml...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev_______________________________________________ >> xmlvm-users mailing list >> xml...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > _______________________________________________ > xmlvm-users mailing list > xml...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users |
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From: William W. <wo...@al...> - 2010-04-10 17:52:18
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On Apr 10, 2010, at 2:23 AM, Arno Puder wrote: > I really don't understand what the author of this article is trying to > say. What does multitasking have to do with the language you wrote the > application in? It sounded to me like the article was complaining about the possibility of writing an iPhone application using a JVM style kernel or interpreter. We do know that part of the multitasking model allows the application to specify a thread that continues to run after the rest of the application shuts down--and if you're emulating threading in a JVM style kernel, there is no way for the iPhone OS to do anything with that. But I agree; it raised more questions than it answered, and it'll be worth to see how things shake out. - Bill |
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From: Arno P. <ar...@pu...> - 2010-04-09 16:19:58
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little follow-up, as more and more blogs are picking up on this subject. Here is an interesting article that makes some good points: http://joeberkovitz.com/blog/2010/04/08/apple-takes-stance-on-consciousness/ It will really be interesting to see how Adobe and Novell react to this. Arno On 4/9/10 4:49 PM, Björn Caroll wrote: > http://daringfireball.net/2010/04/iphone_agreement_bans_flash_compiler > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > _______________________________________________ > xmlvm-users mailing list > xml...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users |
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From: Gergely K. <ger...@ma...> - 2010-04-09 16:55:57
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Hi, Not to mention Unity. It would be nice to know how much money Apple may loose if all the games written if Unity or similar frameworks would be banned from the App Store. Best Regards, Gergely 2010/4/9 Arno Puder <ar...@pu...> > > little follow-up, as more and more blogs are picking up on this subject. > Here is an interesting article that makes some good points: > > > http://joeberkovitz.com/blog/2010/04/08/apple-takes-stance-on-consciousness/ > > It will really be interesting to see how Adobe and Novell react to this. > > Arno > > > On 4/9/10 4:49 PM, Björn Caroll wrote: > > http://daringfireball.net/2010/04/iphone_agreement_bans_flash_compiler > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > > _______________________________________________ > > xmlvm-users mailing list > > xml...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > _______________________________________________ > xmlvm-users mailing list > xml...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users > -- Kis Gergely MattaKis Consulting Email: ger...@ma... Web: http://www.mattakis.com Phone: +36 70 408 1723 Fax: +36 27 998 622 |
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From: Jürgen J. <jj...@pa...> - 2010-04-09 17:09:13
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Arno Puder schrieb: > I'm just waiting for the license agreement to bar for-loops in > Objective-C because Steve Jobs doesn't like them (ok, that's a German > trying to be funny). ... let's wait for next iPhone SDK - hopefully Steve doesn't reads this mailing list ;) > Guys, > > we have certainly noticed this change in the iPhone SDK license > agreement. With the way the new agreement is formulated, Apple pretty > much bars any cross-platform technology, including XMLVM, MonoTouch, and > Adobe's planned offering to cross-compile Flash applications to the > iPhone. Let give it some time and see what the final language will look > like. In particular I'm looking forward to Adobe's and Novell's response > to this. > > I'm just waiting for the license agreement to bar for-loops in > Objective-C because Steve Jobs doesn't like them (ok, that's a German > trying to be funny). > > From our side it is business as usual for now. > > Arno > > > > On 4/9/10 4:49 PM, Björn Caroll wrote: > >> http://daringfireball.net/2010/04/iphone_agreement_bans_flash_compiler >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >> _______________________________________________ >> xmlvm-users mailing list >> xml...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > _______________________________________________ > xmlvm-users mailing list > xml...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users > -- juergen jatzkowski jj...@pa... |
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From: Joris V. <jbv...@gm...> - 2010-04-09 21:00:35
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But the code compiled is aobjective c and c++ code. There's nothing in the license agreement about code generators 2010/4/9 Jürgen Jatzkowski <jj...@pa...>: > Arno Puder schrieb: > > > I'm just waiting for the license agreement to bar for-loops in > > Objective-C because Steve Jobs doesn't like them (ok, that's a German > > trying to be funny). > > ... let's wait for next iPhone SDK - hopefully Steve doesn't reads this > mailing list ;) > >> Guys, >> >> we have certainly noticed this change in the iPhone SDK license >> agreement. With the way the new agreement is formulated, Apple pretty >> much bars any cross-platform technology, including XMLVM, MonoTouch, and >> Adobe's planned offering to cross-compile Flash applications to the >> iPhone. Let give it some time and see what the final language will look >> like. In particular I'm looking forward to Adobe's and Novell's response >> to this. >> >> I'm just waiting for the license agreement to bar for-loops in >> Objective-C because Steve Jobs doesn't like them (ok, that's a German >> trying to be funny). >> >> From our side it is business as usual for now. >> >> Arno >> >> >> >> On 4/9/10 4:49 PM, Björn Caroll wrote: >> >>> http://daringfireball.net/2010/04/iphone_agreement_bans_flash_compiler >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >>> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >>> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >>> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> xmlvm-users mailing list >>> xml...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users >>> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >> _______________________________________________ >> xmlvm-users mailing list >> xml...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users >> > > > -- > juergen jatzkowski > jj...@pa... > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > _______________________________________________ > xmlvm-users mailing list > xml...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users > |
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From: Sascha H. <sa...@xm...> - 2010-04-09 21:14:31
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Well, it's all about what Apple mean with "originally written". On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Joris Verschoor <jbv...@gm...>wrote: > But the code compiled is aobjective c and c++ code. There's nothing in > the license agreement about code generators > > 2010/4/9 Jürgen Jatzkowski <jj...@pa...>: > > Arno Puder schrieb: > > > > > I'm just waiting for the license agreement to bar for-loops in > > > Objective-C because Steve Jobs doesn't like them (ok, that's a German > > > trying to be funny). > > > > ... let's wait for next iPhone SDK - hopefully Steve doesn't reads this > > mailing list ;) > > > >> Guys, > >> > >> we have certainly noticed this change in the iPhone SDK license > >> agreement. With the way the new agreement is formulated, Apple pretty > >> much bars any cross-platform technology, including XMLVM, MonoTouch, and > >> Adobe's planned offering to cross-compile Flash applications to the > >> iPhone. Let give it some time and see what the final language will look > >> like. In particular I'm looking forward to Adobe's and Novell's response > >> to this. > >> > >> I'm just waiting for the license agreement to bar for-loops in > >> Objective-C because Steve Jobs doesn't like them (ok, that's a German > >> trying to be funny). > >> > >> From our side it is business as usual for now. > >> > >> Arno > >> > >> > >> > >> On 4/9/10 4:49 PM, Björn Caroll wrote: > >> > >>> http://daringfireball.net/2010/04/iphone_agreement_bans_flash_compiler > >>> > >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > >>> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > >>> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > >>> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> xmlvm-users mailing list > >>> xml...@li... > >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users > >>> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > >> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > >> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > >> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > >> _______________________________________________ > >> xmlvm-users mailing list > >> xml...@li... > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users > >> > > > > > > -- > > juergen jatzkowski > > jj...@pa... > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > > _______________________________________________ > > xmlvm-users mailing list > > xml...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > _______________________________________________ > xmlvm-users mailing list > xml...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users > |
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From: Joris V. <jbv...@gm...> - 2010-04-10 07:51:33
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I don't really see why that would be a problem, because the kind of apps allowed for multitasking is limited. Also, we ARE allowed to use javascript.. So if we convert from javascript -> xmlvm (or with an intermediate step js->java->xmlvm), we should be safe... for now On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 23:26, William Woody <wo...@al...> wrote: > This may be of interest: > > http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/04/09/apples_prohibition_of_flash_built_apps_in_iphone_4_0_related_to_multitasking.html > > > On Apr 9, 2010, at 2:14 PM, Sascha Haeberling wrote: > >> Well, it's all about what Apple mean with "originally written". >> >> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Joris Verschoor <jbv...@gm... >> > wrote: >> But the code compiled is aobjective c and c++ code. There's nothing in >> the license agreement about code generators >> >> 2010/4/9 Jürgen Jatzkowski <jj...@pa...>: >> > Arno Puder schrieb: >> > >> > > I'm just waiting for the license agreement to bar for-loops in >> > > Objective-C because Steve Jobs doesn't like them (ok, that's a >> German >> > > trying to be funny). >> > >> > ... let's wait for next iPhone SDK - hopefully Steve doesn't reads >> this >> > mailing list ;) >> > >> >> Guys, >> >> >> >> we have certainly noticed this change in the iPhone SDK license >> >> agreement. With the way the new agreement is formulated, Apple >> pretty >> >> much bars any cross-platform technology, including XMLVM, >> MonoTouch, and >> >> Adobe's planned offering to cross-compile Flash applications to the >> >> iPhone. Let give it some time and see what the final language >> will look >> >> like. In particular I'm looking forward to Adobe's and Novell's >> response >> >> to this. >> >> >> >> I'm just waiting for the license agreement to bar for-loops in >> >> Objective-C because Steve Jobs doesn't like them (ok, that's a >> German >> >> trying to be funny). >> >> >> >> From our side it is business as usual for now. >> >> >> >> Arno >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 4/9/10 4:49 PM, Björn Caroll wrote: >> >> >> >>> http://daringfireball.net/2010/04/iphone_agreement_bans_flash_compiler >> >>> >> >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >> >>> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find >> bugs >> >>> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >> >>> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >> >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> xmlvm-users mailing list >> >>> xml...@li... >> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >> >> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >> >> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >> >> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> xmlvm-users mailing list >> >> xml...@li... >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > juergen jatzkowski >> > jj...@pa... >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >> > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >> > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >> > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >> > _______________________________________________ >> > xmlvm-users mailing list >> > xml...@li... >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users >> > >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >> _______________________________________________ >> xmlvm-users mailing list >> xml...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev_______________________________________________ >> xmlvm-users mailing list >> xml...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > _______________________________________________ > xmlvm-users mailing list > xml...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users > |
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From: Joris V. <jbv...@gm...> - 2010-04-10 07:52:34
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Sorry, misread the javascript part... On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 09:51, Joris Verschoor <jbv...@gm...> wrote: > I don't really see why that would be a problem, because the kind of > apps allowed for multitasking is limited. > Also, we ARE allowed to use javascript.. So if we convert from > javascript -> xmlvm (or with an intermediate step js->java->xmlvm), we > should be safe... for now > > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 23:26, William Woody <wo...@al...> wrote: >> This may be of interest: >> >> http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/04/09/apples_prohibition_of_flash_built_apps_in_iphone_4_0_related_to_multitasking.html >> >> >> On Apr 9, 2010, at 2:14 PM, Sascha Haeberling wrote: >> >>> Well, it's all about what Apple mean with "originally written". >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Joris Verschoor <jbv...@gm... >>> > wrote: >>> But the code compiled is aobjective c and c++ code. There's nothing in >>> the license agreement about code generators >>> >>> 2010/4/9 Jürgen Jatzkowski <jj...@pa...>: >>> > Arno Puder schrieb: >>> > >>> > > I'm just waiting for the license agreement to bar for-loops in >>> > > Objective-C because Steve Jobs doesn't like them (ok, that's a >>> German >>> > > trying to be funny). >>> > >>> > ... let's wait for next iPhone SDK - hopefully Steve doesn't reads >>> this >>> > mailing list ;) >>> > >>> >> Guys, >>> >> >>> >> we have certainly noticed this change in the iPhone SDK license >>> >> agreement. With the way the new agreement is formulated, Apple >>> pretty >>> >> much bars any cross-platform technology, including XMLVM, >>> MonoTouch, and >>> >> Adobe's planned offering to cross-compile Flash applications to the >>> >> iPhone. Let give it some time and see what the final language >>> will look >>> >> like. In particular I'm looking forward to Adobe's and Novell's >>> response >>> >> to this. >>> >> >>> >> I'm just waiting for the license agreement to bar for-loops in >>> >> Objective-C because Steve Jobs doesn't like them (ok, that's a >>> German >>> >> trying to be funny). >>> >> >>> >> From our side it is business as usual for now. >>> >> >>> >> Arno >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On 4/9/10 4:49 PM, Björn Caroll wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> http://daringfireball.net/2010/04/iphone_agreement_bans_flash_compiler >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >>> >>> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find >>> bugs >>> >>> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >>> >>> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >>> >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> xmlvm-users mailing list >>> >>> xml...@li... >>> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >>> >> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >>> >> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >>> >> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >>> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> xmlvm-users mailing list >>> >> xml...@li... >>> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > juergen jatzkowski >>> > jj...@pa... >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >>> > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >>> > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >>> > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >>> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > xmlvm-users mailing list >>> > xml...@li... >>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users >>> > >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >>> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >>> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >>> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> xmlvm-users mailing list >>> xml...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >>> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >>> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >>> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev_______________________________________________ >>> xmlvm-users mailing list >>> xml...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >> _______________________________________________ >> xmlvm-users mailing list >> xml...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xmlvm-users >> > |
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