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[xmlvm-users] Android to iphone with external jar library

[Elie H. <eli...@gm...>]

Hello All,

I have a project in android that is using external jar files added to my eclipse how can i use xmlvm to include those jar file in cross compilation to iphone since in the folder containg the .class files there is no reference to the classes included in the jar files imported.
Thank you very much.
Elie

Re: [xmlvm-users] Java Resources

[Sascha H. <sa...@xm...>]

Hi John.

You basically asked two things: How to add arbitrary resources that are not
processed by XMLVM to your project, and how to load that resources later
one.

The two answers are:

   - '--resource' is the parameter that lets you include arbitrary files
   - getResourceAsStream is not currently supported.

// Sascha

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 7:21 PM, John Bester <joh...@so...>wrote:

> I have a SQL script in my Android source structure and access it using
>
> the standard Java
> e.g.
> InputStream in = DbHelper.class.getResourceAsStream(path);
>
> When I process my source using xmlvm, it seems that these files are
> ignored (I read in the manual that only .class files are processed).
> Also, I searched for keywords in the script to verify that this script
> was in fact excluded. Would it be possible to have a mechanism to enable
> use of resources files which would otherwise be included in a apk (or
> jar) to be accessed in some other way? In other words wrapping the
> Class.getResourceAsStream(path) method?
>
>
>
>
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Re: [xmlvm-users] Suggestions

[Sascha H. <sa...@xm...>]

Hi John,

absolutely good suggestions and I agree with what you say. The current
problem is that we are focusing on some more fundamental changes that will
make XMLVM better in the long term. The things you mentioned can me mildly
annoying, but are not a huge problem right now.

But hey, we accept patches *huge wink* ;) Otherwise, I definitely have it on
the lists of things to improve in the future.

// Sascha

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 7:22 PM, John Bester <joh...@so...>wrote:

>
> For my first xmlvm test I pointed the input folder to an Android
> (Eclipse) project root folder. This caused warnings for all .java files
> and .svn folders to be printed. This can easily be rectified by simply
> point the input folder to the bin folder in the project. My suggestion
> is that, since .java files and .svn files should not be included in any
> case, why are these warning messages displayed? Would it not be better
> to simply skip these files? Or better even, if a ".classpath" file is
> found in the input folder specified in the command line, it can simply
> be parsed and the<classpathentry kind="output" path="bin"/>  XML element
> can be used to determine which folder to use for input. Similarly, if
> there is a ".project" file, you could parse it for a default value for
> the "--app-name" parameter.
>
> Also, it seems like the following warnings will always be displayed,
> even though it seems they are not used:
> WARNING: Unable to create InputProcesses for input: .../classes.dex
> WARNING: Unable to create InputProcesses for input: .../someProject.apk
> WARNING: Unable to create InputProcesses for input: .../resources.ap_
>
> Should you not hide warnings of files that you expect but which you are
> not going to process anyway?
>
> If you process a folder as an Eclipse project folder (like I described),
> it makes it very easy to simply write a Eclipse plugin whereby you can
> easily export an Android application to another platform.
>
> In any case, these are just suggestions. Keep up the good work - the
> project opens up many doors for me.
>
>
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[xmlvm-users] Suggestions

[John B. <joh...@so...>]

For my first xmlvm test I pointed the input folder to an Android
(Eclipse) project root folder. This caused warnings for all .java files
and .svn folders to be printed. This can easily be rectified by simply
point the input folder to the bin folder in the project. My suggestion
is that, since .java files and .svn files should not be included in any
case, why are these warning messages displayed? Would it not be better
to simply skip these files? Or better even, if a ".classpath" file is
found in the input folder specified in the command line, it can simply
be parsed and the<classpathentry kind="output" path="bin"/>  XML element
can be used to determine which folder to use for input. Similarly, if
there is a ".project" file, you could parse it for a default value for
the "--app-name" parameter.

Also, it seems like the following warnings will always be displayed,
even though it seems they are not used:
WARNING: Unable to create InputProcesses for input: .../classes.dex
WARNING: Unable to create InputProcesses for input: .../someProject.apk
WARNING: Unable to create InputProcesses for input: .../resources.ap_

Should you not hide warnings of files that you expect but which you are
not going to process anyway?

If you process a folder as an Eclipse project folder (like I described),
it makes it very easy to simply write a Eclipse plugin whereby you can
easily export an Android application to another platform.

In any case, these are just suggestions. Keep up the good work - the
project opens up many doors for me.

[xmlvm-users] Java Resources

[John B. <joh...@so...>]

I have a SQL script in my Android source structure and access it using

the standard Java
e.g.
InputStream in = DbHelper.class.getResourceAsStream(path);

When I process my source using xmlvm, it seems that these files are
ignored (I read in the manual that only .class files are processed).
Also, I searched for keywords in the script to verify that this script
was in fact excluded. Would it be possible to have a mechanism to enable
use of resources files which would otherwise be included in a apk (or
jar) to be accessed in some other way? In other words wrapping the
Class.getResourceAsStream(path) method?

Re: [xmlvm-users] JDK Libraries

[Panayotis K. <pan...@pa...>]

On Oct 21, 2010, at 12:20 AM, Troy Gaines wrote:

> So, are you saying that the current back-end may not be sufficient to support cross compiling this particular class until the new back-end is finished?  Currently, I'm more worried about the functionality more than extra dependencies.
> 
> Thanks again!  

I believe it is easier to just create a wrapper (like the other java.*.* objects) in Obj-C and simulate more or less the functionality. A simple way to do this, if you really don't care about accuracy, is use a double (or long long) number to do the mathematics in the Obj-C world.

Re: [xmlvm-users] JDK Libraries

[Troy G. <tro...@gm...>]

So, are you saying that the current back-end may not be sufficient to
support cross compiling this particular class until the new back-end is
finished?  Currently, I'm more worried about the functionality more than
extra dependencies.

Thanks again!

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Arno Puder <ar...@pu...> wrote:

>
> You can try, but my fear is that "transitive closure" will result in half
> of the JDK. At that point you will most likely run into deficiencies with
> the Objective C backend as well (which we don't have with the new C
> backend). Right now I am stalled with the C backend until we have sorted
> out the dependency problem.
>
> Arno
>
>
> On Oct 20, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Troy Gaines <tro...@gm...> wrote:
>
> Would it be sufficient in the meantime to just try to cross-compile
> BigInteger and all of it's transitive dependencies?  I'm using a library
> that has this dependency on BigInteger among other things.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Arno Puder < <ar...@pu...>
> ar...@pu...> wrote:
>
>> We pursue the idea of cross-compiling the JDK to achieve better API
>> coverage. One problem you will encounter is the dependencies within
>> JDK: if you reference one class (such as BigInteger) you inadvertently
>> pull in half the JDK because of all the dependencies. I know I have
>> saying that we are working on this for the past three months without
>> anything happening, but I hope we will make progress real soon.
>>
>> Arno
>>
>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 5:26 AM, Troy Gaines < <tro...@gm...>
>> tro...@gm...> wrote:
>>
>> I'm trying to cross-compile some code to the iPhone.  One of the classes I
>> need among others is java.math.BigInteger.  I see there is a subset of the
>> Java standard libraries already cross-compiled to Objective C.  Is the
>> recommended approach just to take the java.math.BigInteger class and
>> cross-compile it manually.  I'm trying to understand what is included vs.
>> what I need to do manually?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
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Re: [xmlvm-users] JDK Libraries

[Arno P. <ar...@pu...>]

We pursue the idea of cross-compiling the JDK to achieve better API
coverage. One problem you will encounter is the dependencies within
JDK: if you reference one class (such as BigInteger) you inadvertently
pull in half the JDK because of all the dependencies. I know I have
saying that we are working on this for the past three months without
anything happening, but I hope we will make progress real soon.

Arno

On Oct 20, 2010, at 5:26 AM, Troy Gaines <tro...@gm...> wrote:

I'm trying to cross-compile some code to the iPhone.  One of the classes I
need among others is java.math.BigInteger.  I see there is a subset of the
Java standard libraries already cross-compiled to Objective C.  Is the
recommended approach just to take the java.math.BigInteger class and
cross-compile it manually.  I'm trying to understand what is included vs.
what I need to do manually?

Thanks!

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Re: [xmlvm-users] JDK Libraries

[Arno P. <ar...@pu...>]

You can try, but my fear is that "transitive closure" will result in half of
the JDK. At that point you will most likely run into deficiencies with the
Objective C backend as well (which we don't have with the new C backend).
Right now I am stalled with the C backend until we have sorted out the
dependency problem.

Arno

On Oct 20, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Troy Gaines <tro...@gm...> wrote:

Would it be sufficient in the meantime to just try to cross-compile
BigInteger and all of it's transitive dependencies?  I'm using a library
that has this dependency on BigInteger among other things.

Thanks.


On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Arno Puder <ar...@pu...> wrote:

> We pursue the idea of cross-compiling the JDK to achieve better API
> coverage. One problem you will encounter is the dependencies within
> JDK: if you reference one class (such as BigInteger) you inadvertently
> pull in half the JDK because of all the dependencies. I know I have
> saying that we are working on this for the past three months without
> anything happening, but I hope we will make progress real soon.
>
> Arno
>
> On Oct 20, 2010, at 5:26 AM, Troy Gaines <tro...@gm...> wrote:
>
> I'm trying to cross-compile some code to the iPhone.  One of the classes I
> need among others is java.math.BigInteger.  I see there is a subset of the
> Java standard libraries already cross-compiled to Objective C.  Is the
> recommended approach just to take the java.math.BigInteger class and
> cross-compile it manually.  I'm trying to understand what is included vs.
> what I need to do manually?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
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Re: [xmlvm-users] JDK Libraries

[Troy G. <tro...@gm...>]

Would it be sufficient in the meantime to just try to cross-compile
BigInteger and all of it's transitive dependencies?  I'm using a library
that has this dependency on BigInteger among other things.

Thanks.


On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Arno Puder <ar...@pu...> wrote:

> We pursue the idea of cross-compiling the JDK to achieve better API
> coverage. One problem you will encounter is the dependencies within
> JDK: if you reference one class (such as BigInteger) you inadvertently
> pull in half the JDK because of all the dependencies. I know I have
> saying that we are working on this for the past three months without
> anything happening, but I hope we will make progress real soon.
>
> Arno
>
> On Oct 20, 2010, at 5:26 AM, Troy Gaines <tro...@gm...> wrote:
>
> I'm trying to cross-compile some code to the iPhone.  One of the classes I
> need among others is java.math.BigInteger.  I see there is a subset of the
> Java standard libraries already cross-compiled to Objective C.  Is the
> recommended approach just to take the java.math.BigInteger class and
> cross-compile it manually.  I'm trying to understand what is included vs.
> what I need to do manually?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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[xmlvm-users] JDK Libraries

[Troy G. <tro...@gm...>]

I'm trying to cross-compile some code to the iPhone.  One of the classes I
need among others is java.math.BigInteger.  I see there is a subset of the
Java standard libraries already cross-compiled to Objective C.  Is the
recommended approach just to take the java.math.BigInteger class and
cross-compile it manually.  I'm trying to understand what is included vs.
what I need to do manually?

Thanks!

[xmlvm-users] Web XMLVM Experiment (Demo link inside)

[Sascha H. <sa...@gm...>]

Hi guys,

I just did a little experiment that I was wanting to do for quite a while
now and finally did it: XMLVM as a webservice. This is really just a small
hacked-together prototype as I wanted to see whether I could deploy XMLVM on
AppEngine. Turns out, I can.

Before I send you off to try out the prototype, let me get the intentions
straight: I would like to see and hear from you, whether you think such an
application would actually be useful. For those of that you don't want to
download, compile and run XMLVM, this would offer a way to compile your app
without installing or downloading anything. This prototype doesn't do much,
so it will not be useful for your now, but if there is interest, I would try
to explore this a bit further to see how far we could go.

Alright, alright here is the small demo:
http://webxmlvm.appspot.com/

What you can do there: In the form, choose a class file (a compiled Java
file) from your machine and hit "Send". What you should then see on the
screen is the output you would get when you had chosen to compile your class
file to Objective-C. You should see a .h file as well as a .m file on the
screen in front of you. Of course there is also the chance that you see a
big stack trace, as it's just a prototype :)

If this could be interesting for people, here is something you might be able
to do if we invest more time in it:
You have your Android project (or whatever project you have), you zip it up
and upload it to our Web Service. XMLVM cross-compiles it and gives you a
ZIP file back for download, which then contains e.g. an iPhone project or
whatever you selected as the output.

I know AppEngine very well and know that it has a lot of limitations. But I
could imagine that they can be worked around. For now this is just a nice
playground for me, but if you think it could be useful, I would go ahead and
explore the idea a bit more. But maybe downloading and compiling XMLVM is
not a big issue for you and a webservice would not be useful for you, in
which case, it will remain just a toy project :)

// Sascha

Re: [xmlvm-users] [dev] extending xmlvm

[Hansi R. <su...@su...>]

hey!

> So if I understand you correct you would like to develop plugins that are
> not directly baked into XMLVM but that can be put onto the classpath and
> then loaded through reflection?
>
> It would certainly be doable, but I am wondering, if this usecase makes
> sense. Ideally you would just submit your target and all the code into
> XMLVM. But granted, it could make it easier for people to develop plugins
> for XMLVM as they don't have to submit directly to XMLVM.
>
yep, exactly.

>
>
However, such a plugin API would need to be somewhat stable and therefore
> needs to be designed careful. And I am not sure if we are at a stage right
> now were it makes sense to make that kind of investment.
>
> Getting to the elephant in the room: Would you have an issue with
> submitting your changes to XMLVM again?
>

not at all, it's more the other way round: i'm not sure if you'd like to
have my mess in the official repositories :)


as i said... i don't have anything meaningful at this point, but as soon as
i do i'll obviously post a link here!


best,
hansi.

Re: [xmlvm-users] [dev] extending xmlvm

[Sascha H. <sa...@xm...>]

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Hansi Raber <su...@su...> wrote:

> hello!
>
>
>>
>> The whole pipeline is actually very extensible. Check out the
>> OutputProcessFactory, which allows you to specify an a target process. You
>> just need to implement your own, specify the supported input processes and
>> make sure that your target process is created in the OutputProcessFactory.
>>
>> Let me know if you have any question about this.
>>
>
> yes, the OutputProcessFactory is exactly were i made my modifications.
> currently this factory is "static", meaning that i can't specify 3rd party
> output targets, without recompiling xmlvm.
>

So if I understand you correct you would like to develop plugins that are
not directly baked into XMLVM but that can be put onto the classpath and
then loaded through reflection?

It would certainly be doable, but I am wondering, if this usecase makes
sense. Ideally you would just submit your target and all the code into
XMLVM. But granted, it could make it easier for people to develop plugins
for XMLVM as they don't have to submit directly to XMLVM.

However, such a plugin API would need to be somewhat stable and therefore
needs to be designed careful. And I am not sure if we are at a stage right
now were it makes sense to make that kind of investment.

Getting to the elephant in the room: Would you have an issue with submitting
your changes to XMLVM again?


>
> my question would be if you have thought about opening this part up, for
> instance by allowing users to specify other targets (e.g. js-jqueryui)
> from the command line. those could then be developed independently of
> xmlvm.
>
>
> at this point it is really more a hypothetical question, um... i'll ask
> again about this when i have a working
> prototype of what i'm trying to do....
>
>
>
> best,
> hansi.
>
>

Re: [xmlvm-users] [dev] extending xmlvm

[Hansi R. <su...@su...>]

hello!


>
> The whole pipeline is actually very extensible. Check out the
> OutputProcessFactory, which allows you to specify an a target process. You
> just need to implement your own, specify the supported input processes and
> make sure that your target process is created in the OutputProcessFactory.
>
> Let me know if you have any question about this.
>

yes, the OutputProcessFactory is exactly were i made my modifications.
currently this factory is "static", meaning that i can't specify 3rd party
output targets, without recompiling xmlvm.

my question would be if you have thought about opening this part up, for
instance by allowing users to specify other targets (e.g. js-jqueryui)
from the command line. those could then be developed independently of xmlvm.



at this point it is really more a hypothetical question, um... i'll ask
again about this when i have a working
prototype of what i'm trying to do....



best,
hansi.

Re: [xmlvm-users] [dev] extending xmlvm

[Sascha H. <sa...@xm...>]

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Hansi Raber <su...@su...> wrote:

> hey all!
>
> i just got my hands on xmlvm for the first time the other, so i guess i
> should say hello mailinglist - hello!
> and also ... it's a really promising project, very fun to play with.
>

Hi Hansi! Welcome to the list :)


>
> i currently playing with support for custom target languages (e.g.
> javascript output with a different ui library than qooxdoo).
>

Sounds very interesting. Keep me in the loop as I am also working on the JS
part right now and wonder if there might be some better alternative to
qooxdoo.
Keep in mind however, that qooxdoo is not "just" used for the UI. It's main
purpose is actually to allow the usage of its object-oriented paradigms and
the ability to compile the whole code into one JS "binary".


> i'm not finished, but i'd want it to be invoked along the lines of:
> java -classpath mycrazyownoutputtargetFolderOrJar -jar xmlvm.jar --in=...
> --out=... --target=org.test.MyOwnOutputThingie
> --whatever-other-arguments-this-thing-needs
>

Preferably you should try getting your code into the xmlvm.jar. Depending on
what you have in your crazyOwnStuff you can either put it as a jar into the
lib directory, or put the code itself into the repository and make it part
of XMLVM. What exactly is in this package?


>
> this might or might not be the route to take, but my question is if there
> are plans to make the "target part" of xmlvm extensible with recompiling the
> whole thing.
>

The whole pipeline is actually very extensible. Check out the
OutputProcessFactory, which allows you to specify an a target process. You
just need to implement your own, specify the supported input processes and
make sure that your target process is created in the OutputProcessFactory.

Let me know if you have any question about this.



>
> another question would be: is there an official git repository online
> somewhere? currently i'm updating from svn, but i'd prefer git... a lot...
>

Sorry, we use SVN for now and we would like to have everything in there if
possible for now.


> best, hansi.
>
>
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[xmlvm-users] [dev] extending xmlvm

[Hansi R. <su...@su...>]

hey all!

i just got my hands on xmlvm for the first time the other, so i guess i
should say hello mailinglist - hello!
and also ... it's a really promising project, very fun to play with.

i currently playing with support for custom target languages (e.g.
javascript output with a different ui library than qooxdoo).
i'm not finished, but i'd want it to be invoked along the lines of:
java -classpath mycrazyownoutputtargetFolderOrJar -jar xmlvm.jar --in=...
--out=... --target=org.test.MyOwnOutputThingie
--whatever-other-arguments-this-thing-needs

this might or might not be the route to take, but my question is if there
are plans to make the "target part" of xmlvm extensible with recompiling the
whole thing.

another question would be: is there an official git repository online
somewhere? currently i'm updating from svn, but i'd prefer git... a lot...



best, hansi.

[xmlvm-users] [dev] extending xmlvm

[Hansi R. <su...@su...>]

hey all!

i just got my hands on xmlvm for the first time the other, so i guess i
should say hello mailinglist - hello!
and also ... it's a really promising project, very fun to play with.

i currently playing with support for custom target languages (e.g.
javascript output with a different ui library than qooxdoo).
i'm not finished, but i'd want it to be invoked along the lines of:
java -classpath mycrazyownoutputtargetFolderOrJar -jar xmlvm.jar --in=...
--out=... --target=org.test.MyOwnOutputThingie
--whatever-other-arguments-this-thing-needs

this might or might not be the route to take, but my question is if there
are plans to make the "target part" of xmlvm extensible with recompiling the
whole thing.

another question would be: is there an official git repository online
somewhere? currently i'm updating from svn, but i'd prefer git... a lot...



best, hansi.

[xmlvm-users] Project: transcompiling Java to Objective-C

[<jk...@at...>]

Hello. I have a digital/educational plaything/toy written using Java. I am looking for a person who is able to transcompile the Java using "XMLVM" to Objective-C (I believe) so my product may be playable on Apple's iPad.

Please let me know if you may be able to do this and might be interested in this project.

Thank you very much,
Jeff Klamer
www.jeffklamerdesign.com

[xmlvm-users] my email address

[elias r. <eli...@gm...>]

hi there,
i am sending my email address to be able to post in the mailing list

regards

Re: [xmlvm-users] Using OpenJDK classes instead of built-in stubs

[Arno P. <ar...@pu...>]

the plan is to support the standard JDK.

Arno


On 9/30/10 12:39 PM, Leo Izen wrote:
> Will you be making obscure classes such as java.util.Stack, which is
> better replaced with things such as java.util.Deque? (ArrayDeque or
> LinkedList)? Or are you only making the recommended use classes? I'd
> prefer everything, because I kinda like java.util.Vector and
> java.util.Stack!
>
> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Barry Linsdau <bar...@ao...
> <mailto:bar...@ao...>> wrote:
>
>
>     Is the modularization work taking place on a branch somewhere? If
>     you let me know the areas that are problematic, I'd be interested in
>     trying to help out.
>
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Arno Puder <ar...@pu... <mailto:ar...@pu...>>
>     To: Barry Linsdau <bar...@ao... <mailto:bar...@ao...>>
>     Cc: xmlvm-users <xml...@li...
>     <mailto:xml...@li...>>
>     Sent: Thu, Sep 30, 2010 8:47 am
>     Subject: Re: [xmlvm-users] Using OpenJDK classes instead of built-in
>     stubs
>
>
>     We are still struggling modularizing OpenJDK in order to reduce
>     dependencies. Those hand-written classes you see will eventually be
>     replaced. Note that the C backend is still work in progress.
>
>     Arno
>
>     On Sep 30, 2010, at 12:50 AM, Barry Linsdau <bar...@ao...
>     <mailto:bar...@ao...>> wrote:
>
>>
>>     When I run:
>>
>>       java -jar xmlvm.jar --in=myapp.jar --target=iphone-c
>>     --app-name=MyApp
>>
>>     I wind up with with my nicely converted code, but there's only the
>>     minimal set of core java classes, all of which appear to be
>>     hand-written. One thing my app uses that is completely missing
>>     from the generated code is java.util.TreeMap.
>>
>>     Should these missing classes be automatically converted from the
>>     classes in openjdk6-build.jar? I read something on the mailing
>>     list that suggested that this was going to happen, but it doesn't
>>     seem to be happening now.
>>
>>     If not, is there a way I can generate the classes from
>>     openjdk6-build.jar as part of my project? If not, is this a
>>     planned feature for the near future? Or is this something that is
>>     supported by the "iphone" target but not the "iphone-c" target yet?
>>
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Re: [xmlvm-users] Using OpenJDK classes instead of built-in stubs

[Leo I. <leo...@gm...>]

Will you be making obscure classes such as java.util.Stack, which is better
replaced with things such as java.util.Deque? (ArrayDeque or LinkedList)? Or
are you only making the recommended use classes? I'd prefer everything,
because I kinda like java.util.Vector and java.util.Stack!

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Barry Linsdau <bar...@ao...> wrote:

>
> Is the modularization work taking place on a branch somewhere? If you let
> me know the areas that are problematic, I'd be interested in trying to help
> out.
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Arno Puder <ar...@pu...>
> To: Barry Linsdau <bar...@ao...>
> Cc: xmlvm-users <xml...@li...>
> Sent: Thu, Sep 30, 2010 8:47 am
> Subject: Re: [xmlvm-users] Using OpenJDK classes instead of built-in stubs
>
>
>  We are still struggling modularizing OpenJDK in order to reduce
> dependencies. Those hand-written classes you see will eventually be
> replaced. Note that the C backend is still work in progress.
>
>  Arno
>
> On Sep 30, 2010, at 12:50 AM, Barry Linsdau <bar...@ao...> wrote:
>
>
>  When I run:
>
>   java -jar xmlvm.jar --in=myapp.jar --target=iphone-c --app-name=MyApp
>
> I wind up with with my nicely converted code, but there's only the minimal
> set of core java classes, all of which appear to be hand-written. One thing
> my app uses that is completely missing from the generated code is
> java.util.TreeMap.
>
> Should these missing classes be automatically converted from the classes in
> openjdk6-build.jar? I read something on the mailing list that suggested that
> this was going to happen, but it doesn't seem to be happening now.
>
> If not, is there a way I can generate the classes from openjdk6-build.jar
> as part of my project? If not, is this a planned feature for the near
> future? Or is this something that is supported by the "iphone" target but
> not the "iphone-c" target yet?
>
>
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Re: [xmlvm-users] Using OpenJDK classes instead of built-in stubs

[Barry L. <bar...@ao...>]

Is the modularization work taking place on a branch somewhere? If you let me know the areas that are problematic, I'd be interested in trying to help out.


 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Arno Puder <ar...@pu...>
To: Barry Linsdau <bar...@ao...>
Cc: xmlvm-users <xml...@li...>
Sent: Thu, Sep 30, 2010 8:47 am
Subject: Re: [xmlvm-users] Using OpenJDK classes instead of built-in stubs




We are still struggling modularizing OpenJDK in order to reduce dependencies. Those hand-written classes you see will eventually be replaced. Note that the C backend is still work in progress.


Arno

On Sep 30, 2010, at 12:50 AM, Barry Linsdau <bar...@ao...> wrote:




 

When I run:

  java -jar xmlvm.jar --in=myapp.jar --target=iphone-c --app-name=MyApp

I wind up with with my nicely converted code, but there's only the minimal set of core java classes, all of which appear to be hand-written. One thing my app uses that is completely missing from the generated code is java.util.TreeMap.

Should these missing classes be automatically converted from the classes in openjdk6-build.jar? I read something on the mailing list that suggested that this was going to happen, but it doesn't seem to be happening now.

If not, is there a way I can generate the classes from openjdk6-build.jar as part of my project? If not, is this a planned feature for the near future? Or is this something that is supported by the "iphone" target but not the "iphone-c" target yet?





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Re: [xmlvm-users] Using OpenJDK classes instead of built-in stubs

[Sascha H. <sa...@xm...>]

Yes, using target-iphone gives you a broader coverage, so you might want to
try it. It will be replaced with the c backend at some point. Then, as you
rightly assumed, we will be cross-compiling most of the JDK classes you use.

// Sascha

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Arno Puder <ar...@pu...> wrote:

>
> We are still struggling modularizing OpenJDK in order to reduce
> dependencies. Those hand-written classes you see will eventually be
> replaced. Note that the C backend is still work in progress.
>
> Arno
>
>
> On Sep 30, 2010, at 12:50 AM, Barry Linsdau <bar...@ao...> wrote:
>
>
>  When I run:
>
>   java -jar xmlvm.jar --in=myapp.jar --target=iphone-c --app-name=MyApp
>
> I wind up with with my nicely converted code, but there's only the minimal
> set of core java classes, all of which appear to be hand-written. One thing
> my app uses that is completely missing from the generated code is
> java.util.TreeMap.
>
> Should these missing classes be automatically converted from the classes in
> openjdk6-build.jar? I read something on the mailing list that suggested that
> this was going to happen, but it doesn't seem to be happening now.
>
> If not, is there a way I can generate the classes from openjdk6-build.jar
> as part of my project? If not, is this a planned feature for the near
> future? Or is this something that is supported by the "iphone" target but
> not the "iphone-c" target yet?
>
>
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Re: [xmlvm-users] Using OpenJDK classes instead of built-in stubs

[Arno P. <ar...@pu...>]

We are still struggling modularizing OpenJDK in order to reduce
dependencies. Those hand-written classes you see will eventually be
replaced. Note that the C backend is still work in progress.

Arno

On Sep 30, 2010, at 12:50 AM, Barry Linsdau <bar...@ao...> wrote:


 When I run:

  java -jar xmlvm.jar --in=myapp.jar --target=iphone-c --app-name=MyApp

I wind up with with my nicely converted code, but there's only the minimal
set of core java classes, all of which appear to be hand-written. One thing
my app uses that is completely missing from the generated code is
java.util.TreeMap.

Should these missing classes be automatically converted from the classes in
openjdk6-build.jar? I read something on the mailing list that suggested that
this was going to happen, but it doesn't seem to be happening now.

If not, is there a way I can generate the classes from openjdk6-build.jar as
part of my project? If not, is this a planned feature for the near future?
Or is this something that is supported by the "iphone" target but not the
"iphone-c" target yet?


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