Re: [Xmltv-devel] new channels/programme combo dtd

[Edward A. <ep...@do...>]

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On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Jerry Veldhuis wrote:

>Are you requiring that the channels get declared before any programs in
>the dtd ?

Yes.  All the stuff in the DTD has a defined order, and in this case I
put channels first.

>I don't think makes life any harder for the grabbers.

A bit harder: getlistings_uk_ananova doesn't know the channel details
until _after_ grabbing programmes.  I had to fix it to keep a backlog of
programmes, after grabbing one full day write the channels, then write
the backlog of programmes, then continue grabbing and writing as normal.

But I think this is worth it; the point of the grabber after all is to
hide all this sort of cruftiness in a single place and present a nice
shiny-looking XML data file as output.

>>Actually, could I just state this as a new coding standard: do not
>>commit stuff to CVS unless it works, or is at least less broken than
>>what came before.
>
>I think that's an unlikely thing to expect. I don't think it has to be
>stated anywhere. It should be implied. There is always problems when
>you're playing with a moving target. That's what testing is about.

Hence the 'less broken than before' exception.  You have to take a
reasonable guess about whether the new stuff is an improvement.  Some
risk of brokenness is acceptable as part of a move towards the latest
and greatest (eg the DTD changes I'm working on now).  But I would like
people to be able to check out CVS and have something that 80% works.

>Although if you want to add it to the 'coding standards' doc.

Nah, I think it is implicit.  Only a few people have CVS access anyhow.
I think it is just you and me in fact.  Can we delete that old
'xmltv_admin' user?

>Hah, we could use branch tags for releases. They make it a lot easier
>to make patches without holding back development.

We are not a big enough or important enough project to do that.  Just
tell the users to grab the latest released version.

For example: are you still interested in making bugfixes to the 'stable,
trusted' getlistings_ca?

>What we have now works just fine.

Yup.  I am frightened of CVS, I can just about cope with checkout,
update and commit but I really don't want to get involved in the murky
stuff.

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Ed Avis <ep...@do...>
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