From: Elliot S. <el...@ja...> - 2004-11-28 19:29:25
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It sounded as if it was closing down because it was a business he couldnt sell. But its an interesting idea, i 'll contact him today, see if there is any chance. Elliot ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Eden" <rm...@ya...> To: "Elliot Shepherd" <ell...@ja...>; <xml...@li...> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 3:23 AM Subject: Re: [Xmltv-devel] Re: Re: Australian tv grabber > Why not ask for his contacts and see if you can take over as > consolidator? > > Robert > > --- Elliot Shepherd <ell...@ja...> wrote: > >> I just got in contact with the man who runs the TV I was grabbing >> from, to >> see if he could output in XML. Sadly however he told me that the site >> is >> closing down within weeks! >> >> Oh well. At least i learnt a bit =) >> >> Elliot >> "rohbags" <ro...@on...> wrote in message >> news:110...@wx...... >> > Hi Elliot, >> > >> > if, *IF*, the data you obtain is legal, I'd be happy to slap >> together a >> > grabber for your site (I currently maintain the tv_grab_au, which I >> > never get around to making it 100% so it hasn made it into an >> offical >> > release yet). >> > >> > Ive been in close contact with the major tv guide suppliers, and >> > currently its the TV stations here who impose the restrictions, and >> > until they (the stations) budge a little, no one in Australia can >> have a >> > legal source of data. >> > >> > Only one company here has been able to secure an agreement to >> > redistribute their data, and thats d1.com.au, I have no idea how >> they >> > did it, but they did and good on 'em for doing so, they have been >> kind >> > enough to allow Aussie xmltv users to obtain their data directly >> from >> > their database server, not just their customers who brought their >> Home >> > Media Center product. >> > >> > Until we have something better (which i dont see happening for a >> long >> > time), i think Aussie xmltv users should stick with D1;s legal >> source. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Rohan M. >> > (ro...@on...) >> > >> > PS: Seriously dude - be careful with your site if your just >> scraping the >> > data from other sites. I can assure you that the legal teams for >> most >> > major tv guide sites are very active at the moment and will not >> hesitate >> > to drag you through the courts just to prove their point. Just ask >> the >> > OzTivo guys or ask me to see the legal letters from companies like >> > yahoo.com.au or ebroadcast.com.au. >> > Be careful dude. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sat, 2004-11-27 at 15:51, Elliot Shepherd wrote: >> >> Distribution rights? Short answer : no. >> >> >> >> If it the site i am grabbing from says it is a "Community Service" >> and no >> >> copyright message is given anywhere on the site. >> >> >> >> >From your point of view though, you would only be providing a >> script >> >> >that >> >> downloads from my server. There can't be any legal problems with >> that can >> >> there? >> >> >> >> Elliot >> >> >> >> "Robert Eden" <rm...@ya...> wrote in message >> >> news:200...@we...... >> >> > This is the right place. >> >> > >> >> > I don't know if this is a issue Down Under or not, but do you >> have the >> >> > legal right to redistribute the data? >> >> > >> >> > Most of the commerical web sites allow access for personal use >> with the >> >> > restriction of not redistributing it. That's a major reason why >> the >> >> > XMLTV project distributes grabbers, not data. >> >> > >> >> > If you do have distribution rights, someone with an interest >> (i.e. >> >> > "itch to scratch") could write a grabber and I don't see a >> problem >> >> > with including it in the XMLTV distribution. >> >> > >> >> > Robert >> >> > >> >> > --- Elliot Shepherd <ell...@ja...> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Hi all. =) >> >> >> >> >> >> Apologies in advance for this post if it is in the wrong area. >> >> >> >> >> >> I am developing a site which grabs tv listings for about 40 >> regions >> >> >> in >> >> >> australia and spits it out xmltv format. It already works in >> fact, i >> >> >> am just >> >> >> trying to make it a bit more bulletproof. >> >> >> >> >> >> I just wanted to know once it's online for everyone, if a >> simple >> >> >> plugin for >> >> >> xmltv can be made to just grab the data from my server. >> >> >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> Elliot >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide >> >> >> Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from >> real >> >> >> users. >> >> >> Discover which products truly live up to the hype. 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