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[Xcircuit-dev] xcircuit 3.3.30 build error

[Nicolas N. <nno...@ti...>]

Sorry, I am new at this.
I did see a message alot like mine....

I did :

./configure
make

and get

make lib/tcl/xcircuit.so
make[2]: Entering directory `/nbn/src/xcircuit/xcircuit-3.3.30'
Makefile:918: warning: overriding commands for target `all-recursive'
Makefile:419: warning: ignoring old commands for target `all-recursive'
Makefile:921: warning: overriding commands for target `install-recursive'
Makefile:419: warning: ignoring old commands for target `install-recursive'
rm -f lib/xcircuit.so
gcc -g -O2 -fPIC -fPIC -o lib/tcl/xcircuit.so -shared 
-Wl,-soname,lib/tcl/xcircuit.so -Wl,--version-script=symbol.map xcwrap.o \
        elements.o events.o filelist.o files.o fontfile.o formats.o 
functions.o graphic.o help.o keybindings.o libraries.o menucalls.o 
netlist.o ngspice.o opengl.o parameter.o python.o rcfile.o render.o 
schema.o selection.o text.o undo.o tclxcircuit.o tkSimple.o tkPixmap.o 
xcircuit.o  -L/usr/X11R6/lib \
          -lc -lXt  -lSM -lICE -lm  -lX11 -lXpm -ldl  -lieee -lm
/usr/bin/ld: lib/tcl/xcircuit.so: undefined versioned symbol name 
_LIB_VERSION@@GLIBC_2.0
/usr/bin/ld: failed to set dynamic section sizes: Bad value
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [lib/tcl/xcircuit.so] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/nbn/src/xcircuit/xcircuit-3.3.30'
make[1]: *** [tcl] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/nbn/src/xcircuit/xcircuit-3.3.30'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 2

I don't know what it means except that it's an error.

does the ./configure command require some option?
I am using redhat 8.
this is my first version of xcircuit.

I tried the

nm lib/tcl/xcircuit.so | grep LIB_VERSION

but xcircuit.so does not exist (yet)

thanks

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Re: [Xcircuit-dev] problem building latest versions of xcircuit

[R. T. E. <tim...@mu...>]

Dear Richard,

> I have been unable to build either of the versions 3.3.29 and 3.3.30 - 
> any help would be appreciated:
> 
>   ./configure --with-tcl --prefix=/home/moose2/rgf/xcircuit_3.3.30
> 
>   (... stuff ...)
> 
>   /usr/bin/ld: lib/tcl/xcircuit.so: undefined versioned symbol name 
> _LIB_VERSION@@GLIBC_2.0
>   /usr/bin/ld: failed to set dynamic section sizes: Bad value
>   collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
>   make[1]: *** [lib/tcl/xcircuit.so] Error 1
>   make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/moose2/rgf/xcircuit-3.3.30'
>   make: *** [tcl] Error 2
> 
> (I have also not been able to successfully build with asg enabled for 
> many versions. I assumed the code was not ready ...)

What operating system are you compiling under?  Were you able to
successfully compile previous revisions successfully in the same
environment?

This is possibly an OS error, or due to flags passed to the linker.
I know that if I do "nm lib/tcl/xcircuit.so | grep LIB_VERSION" I
get back "00072684 d _LIB_VERSION", *not* _LIB_VERSION@@GLIBC_2.0
(i.e., in my compiled file, the variable is not tied to a specific
version of GLIBC).

That the ASG code does not compile does not surprise me;  it has
always been in a pretty much unusable state.

						---Tim

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[Xcircuit-dev] Tcl error on startup.

[Roland R. <ro...@as...>]

I've just download xcircuit 3.3.29; the last time I used xcircuit was a
couple of years ago at rev 3.1.x.

On startup, I get a Tcl error:

    loading history file ... 48 events added
    error in slave eval:
    missing colon on line 13

I removed my .tkcon_history thinking it was at fault, but with no
effect.  If I attempt to launch xcircexec directly, I get a similar
error, just the "missing colon on line 13" part.

I'm running on a Fedora Core 3 system, Tcl/Tk is at release 8.4.

Any clue on what I'm missing?

TIA,

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Re: [Xcircuit-dev] Problem gunzipping latest distribution

[Uwe Z. <uwe...@sc...>]

3.3.25?
The current version is 3.3.29...

Did you download the complete file, or was your download aborted half
way through? The complete file should be about 1.3 MByte large - check
with the download page for the correct file size...

   Uwe.

> I just downloaded the 3.3.25 distribution from Sourceforge and tried to
> gunzip it.  I got an error message of "unexpected end of file".

> I'm using a completely new installation of FreeBSD 5.4 and downloaded
> the file from gnome with their epiphany browser, which I've never used
> before, and then moved the file to an appropriate place 
> (/usr/src/xcircuit).  I logged in as root, made the file permissions
> 755 and changed the owner to root.

> Suggestions??

> Thanks!

> -Phyllis Nelson


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[Xcircuit-dev] Problem gunzipping latest distribution

[Phyllis N. <prn...@ui...>]

I just downloaded the 3.3.25 distribution from Sourceforge and tried to 
gunzip it.  I got an error message of "unexpected end of file".

I'm using a completely new installation of FreeBSD 5.4 and downloaded 
the file from gnome with their epiphany browser, which I've never used 
before, and then moved the file to an appropriate place 
(/usr/src/xcircuit).  I logged in as root, made the file permissions 
755 and changed the owner to root.

Suggestions??

Thanks!

-Phyllis Nelson


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Electrical and Computer Engineering
California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
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Pomona, CA 91768

Re: [Xcircuit-dev] Re: Still Not Compiling With tcl Under cygwin

[R. T. E. <tim...@mu...>]

The Lightning Stalker wrote:

> Can't find tcl library
> Reverting to non-Tcl compile
> 
> I tried all those things.  Tcl and Tk were
> compiled according to the instructions at
> http://xcircuit.ece.jhu.edu/windows.html yet the above error
> is produced.
> 
> I won't reopen the bug tracker since some people find that annoying, but I feel this issue deserves some attention since at least
> one other person seems to be experiencing it.

If you typed the option "--with-tcl=<DIR>" on the "configure" command-line,
then the configure script expects to see the file "tclConfig.sh" in the
directory <DIR>.

The default compilation of Tcl/Tk should normally install in /usr/local/.
After installation of Tcl/Tk, there should be files /usr/local/lib/tclConfig.sh
and /usr/local/lib/tkConfig.sh.  If "configure" can't find them, then
the correct command-line should be "./configure --with-tcl=/usr/local/lib
--with-tk=/usr/local/lib".

If all of this seems to be failing, then please send me your "config.log"
file, as I may be able to tell more about the problem from it.

					Regards,
					Tim

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Re: [Xcircuit-dev] scaling pages to fit print media

[R. T. E. <tim...@mu...>]

Dear Phil,

> If anyone has a tip on how I can directly get xcircuit
> to scale my schematic properly I'd like to hear from
> you.

In the Tcl/Tk version of XCircuit, you should be able to
set Mode="Full Page" in the output dialog, then select
"Tabloid" from the Sizes menu to get an 11x17 page size,
then click on the "Auto-fit" button to get the scale
correct.

If you want margins other than 1" on all sides, you
should still select full-page/tabloid, then adjust
width and height directly from the dialog.  Be sure to
click on the "Apply" button or hit <Return> after typing
a change into the text field, since any of "Scale", "Width",
and "Height" may be inconsitent, and xcircuit needs to
update the others in response to a change in any one of the
fields.  If it just re-scans the fields before writing the
output file, it will just see inconsistent fields and not
know which ones are intended.

					Regards,
					Tim

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[Xcircuit-dev] scaling pages to fit print media

[Robert O. <phi...@ya...>]

I'm not sure how the experienced xcircuit users do the
scaling to make schematics fit the print media.     I
have tried to manipulate the postscript output
properties using the xcircuit dialog but I find that
very often my output does not fit the page very well
(i.e. is not scaled to take maximum advantage of the
available page width/height) or that the output is
cutoff.   

So my workaround, which I thought I'd share, is to use
this poster program.    http://printing.kde.org/

What I do is write the xcircuit .ps file as EPS
Portrait and then post process it with the poster
program to arrive at a nicely scaled drawing to my
11x17 media.  

If anyone has a tip on how I can directly get xcircuit
to scale my schematic properly I'd like to hear from
you.

Thanks.
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[Xcircuit-dev] Re: Still Not Compiling With tcl Under cygwin

[The L. S. <lig...@rd...>]

Can't find tcl library
Reverting to non-Tcl compile

I tried all those things.  Tcl and Tk were
compiled according to the instructions at
http://xcircuit.ece.jhu.edu/windows.html yet the above error
is produced.

I won't reopen the bug tracker since some people find that annoying, but I feel this issue deserves some attention since at least
one other person seems to be experiencing it.

Thanks

> This depends on which version of Tcl is installed in
> Cygwin.  The default version is not compatible with
> X11 calls.  If you compile your own versions of Tcl
> and Tk from http://www.tcl.tk/, the default install location
> is /usr/local/.  The xcircuit "configure" script should be
> able to find it there.  If there is an X11-capable version
> of Tcl in a non-standard location, you will need to use
> "--with-tcl=" and "--with-tk=" on the "configure" command
> line.  The README file in the xcircuit distribution has more
> details.

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[Xcircuit-dev] Still Not Compiling With tcl Under cygwin

[The L. S. <lig...@rd...>]

Just tried the latest version and it still doesn=92t recognize tcl.  I =
added a bug to the bug tracker.


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[Xcircuit-dev] A couple of issues with Mac OS X and xcircuit-3.3.20

[Alexander H. <ak...@co...>]

Hi.

I've been the new xcircuit maintainer for the Fink project on Mac OS  
X through most of the 3.3.x series, and I found a problem with 3.3.20  
and building on OSX (at least through Fink).

The offending line in ./configure is:

       LDFLAGS="${LDFLAGS} ${LIB_SPEC} -bind_at_load"

This causes a link failure on both 10.3.x and 10.4.x. By patching out  
the -bind_at_load reference, I was able to get it to build.

Also, I found this line:

          SHLIB_CFLAGS="-I/sw/include -fno-common"

Putting /sw in such a flag is an extremely bad idea--it's only used  
for Fink, and even people who use Fink don't necessarily install it  
in /sw.

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Re: [Xcircuit-dev] compiling 3.3.19 not working out

[R. T. E. <tim...@mu...>]

Dear Robert,

> I do a configure and make which produces an
> 'xcircexec' executable but when I invoke ./xcircexec I
> don't see the familiar blank xcircuit graph paper GUI.
>   Instead a small grey window opens and then nothing
> else.

Do "setenv XCIRCUIT_LIB_DIR ./lib" (for csh/tcsh environments,
"export XCIRCUIT_LIB_DIR=./lib" for sh/bash) before running
"xcircexec". Otherwise, it fails to find the startup script
that generates the window, menus, etc., or the actual program,
which is a shared library loaded into TCL.

					Regards,
					Tim

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[Xcircuit-dev] compiling 3.3.19 not working out

[Robert O. <phi...@ya...>]

I do a configure and make which produces an
'xcircexec' executable but when I invoke ./xcircexec I
don't see the familiar blank xcircuit graph paper GUI.
  Instead a small grey window opens and then nothing
else.

Am I doing something wrong to invoke xcircuit?     I
am thinking maybe I did something wrong on the
configure step but I didn't get any errors on my
configure or make.
I did a ./configure --with-tcl 

My old version of xcircuit was v3.2 and I don't want
to do a make install until I can be assured 3.3.19 is
stable so I'm trying to run it from the build
directory.

Any thoughts welcome.



		
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[Xcircuit-dev] Re: Xcircuit user object editing bug

[R. T. E. <tim...@mu...>]

Dear Bliss,

> 	Yesterday I tried your latest version, 3.3.19, of xcircuit and found
> that when I create a User Object and try to push it into the editor,
> i.e. using ">", I get the meassage "no object selected".  Did you change
> something about how user objects are edited?

Since a few revisions back, I changed the way objects are selected, not
how they are edited.  The selection mechanism avoids the clunky "click
button1/3 to accept/reject" mechanism.  But, to avoid that, I had to
make the selection mechanism "smarter", which I did with a number of
heuristics.  One of them is a recursive search on elements, so that
an object is selected only if some element inside the object (line,
box, text, etc.) would be selected.  This lets one create an object
such as a page frame or boundary and not have xcircuit think you're
selecting in any time you click on something in the middle.  But,
heuristics are heuristics, and so it is sometimes true that what looks
to you like a single object looks to xcircuit like a frame with an
empty space in the middle, so if you are trying to select the object
with the cursor in the middle, xcircuit thinks there's nothing there.
Instead, try to select it near the edge.  I'll try to think of some
way to improve the heuristic.

					Regards,
					Tim

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Re: [Xcircuit-dev] spice netlist

[Benoit B. <ben...@gm...>]

Dear Mr. Edwards,
sorry for the late.

> I just updated xcircuit to revision 3.3.14, which does what you want.
> An "info label" on the top-level schematic will get its contents
> written verbatim into the netlist output.

Many thanks.

>=20
> Let me know if it is or is not working the way you want.

I have just quickly tried your last version: when I open
the xcircuit file I was working on, it crashes with a segmentation
fault. Other files seem to work correctly.

I haven't tried the "info label" yet. I will do it in a short time.

>=20
>                                         Regards,
>                                         Tim

Thank you very much again,
best regards.
Benoit

[Xcircuit-dev] spice netlist

[Benoit B. <ben...@gm...>]

Dear everybody,

I'm studying electrical engineering in Padua, Italy; I'm doing
my master thesis work in power electronics and I want to do
my whole work using only opensource software.
So I'm using xcircuit and this is the problem: how can I insert
spice directives in an xcircuit drawing, like the declarations of
the models, the option definitions and so?

eg:
.model diode d
.model switch1 sw
...

These directives must obviously be put at the top of the netlist file.

Thank you very much, this is very important for me.
Best regards,
Benoit Bidoggia
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[Xcircuit-dev] Co-ordinate units

[Rick J. <ri...@ha...>]

I seem to be having some difficulty setting co-ordinates to metric.

I have a .xcircuitrc in my home directory with:

set coordstyle cm

but xcircuit comes up with inch co-ordinates. If I open the TCL console it 
responds with:

loading history file ... 1 events added
Starting xcircuit under Tcl interpreter
Main console display active (Tcl8.4.6 / Tk8.4.6)
(rick) 2 % set coordstyle cm
cm
(rick) 3 % 

which looks as if it has recognised the command, but co-ordinates are still 
in inches. Have I missed something here?

System is Gentoo Linux, kernel 2.6.11.7, Athlon processor, xcircuit 3.1.31.

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Re: [Xcircuit-dev] running xcircuit 3.3.13 fails with

[Svenn A. B. <sv...@bj...>]

On Saturday 30 April 2005 19:09, Hans J. Albertsson wrote:
> /usr/local/lib/xcircuit-3.3/tkcon.tcl: wish: Not found

have you installed tcl/tk on your machine? 
If you have and the name of the executable is wish8.4, then edit the 
file above and modify the exec wish command at the beginning to exec 
wish8.4

I have to do this on a TWW distribution every time Tim makes a new 
tarball.
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[Xcircuit-dev] running xcircuit 3.3.13 fails with

[Hans J. A. <han...@br...>]

/usr/local/lib/xcircuit-3.3/tkcon.tcl: wish: Not found
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[Xcircuit-dev] Windows Install Problem

[Peter K. O. <pes...@sb...>]

I followed the instructions to install xcircuity for windows from your 
website, but I am having some problems.

I have attached a screen shot of the cygwin from when I typed xcircuit 
in. I think I installed cygwin properly, but the oclock program wouldn't 
  load.

Any thoughts or changes in install procedure?

In the event that attachments are stripped, I have posted a copy here: 
http://www.peschtra.com/xcircuit_setup.png.

Please cc any answers as I do not know how to subscribe.

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[Xcircuit-dev] RE: incorrect bounding boxes on text

[R. T. E. <ti...@op...>]

Dear Graham,

> I find that the bounding box of an xcircuit symbol can be
> truncated on the right and upper sides.

I'm possibly seeing what you're seeing, but I'm not sure.
I turned on the checkbox "Options->Show Bounding Box" so I
can track what xcircuit thinks the bounding box is.  What
I found is that 1) XCircuit properly tracks all justifications
properly, through flips, rotations, etc.; however, 2) if you
simply rejustify a label but don't otherwise change anything
in the symbol, XCircuit fails to recalculate the bounding
box, and the erroneous bounding box will be saved when the
file is written.  3) If the file is reloaded, this forces
a bounding box computation, and the bounding box becomes
correct again.

This is trivial to fix, but I'm suspicious that there's more
to it than that.
					Regards,
					Tim

[Xcircuit-dev] Bounding box for symbols is truncated

[Graham P. <gra...@vl...>]

Hallo Tim,
   I find that the bounding box of an xcircuit symbol
can be truncated on the right and upper sides. I think
this is caused by text with a justification that is
not bottom left. If for example text on the right is
justified bottom right, the bounding box is set to the
text left co-ord leaving anything to the right
truncated.
   Something similar happens if text at the top of the
symbol is justified top left instead of bottom left.
It seems that the text justification is not considered
when calculating the bounding box co-ords.
   I have been fixing this my manually editing the
bounding box co-ords.
   I am using 3.2.24, but the problem has been around
ever since I started using xcircuit. It's only now
that I think I know why the bounding box is too small!
Best regards, Graham Petley

[Xcircuit-dev] Re: XCircuit 3.3.12

[Richard F. {x. C. <rg...@sg...>]

Hi!

Just thought I'd let you know I have not been able to compile the last 
three versions with ASG enabled ... I get the following message after 
configuration:

  ...
  make tcl
  ...
  make[1]: *** No rule to make target `asg/libasg.a', needed by 
`lib/tcl/xcircuit.so'.  Stop.

so I'm compiling it witthout ASG, which seems to work fine.

Dick

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