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From: <mic...@sw...> - 2006-02-21 08:21:06
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OK, Thanks. I corrected my local source tree (and updated the available package).
Michael.
Dear Michael,> BTW, the Shift+Button1 trick to emulate Button2, mentionned in a > previous thread, doesn't seem to work with the current Win32 version. > The fact is that I don't see in the code where this is achieved. Is this > recent addition or am I blind?Hmmm, it wasn't that recent, but it apparently was (unintentionally)temporary. The Shift + Button1 bindings can be added tokeybindings.c to duplicate all of the Button2 bindings, at line 698: /* 2-button vs. 3-button mouse bindings (set with -2 */ /* commandline option; 3-button bindings default) */ if (pressmode) { add_binding(BUTTON3, XCF_Text_Return); add_binding(BUTTON3, XCF_Select); add_binding(HOLD | BUTTON3, XCF_SelectBox); add_binding(BUTTON3, XCF_Finish_Element); add_binding(BUTTON3, XCF_Finish_Copy); add_binding(XK_BackSpace, XCF_Cancel_Last); add_binding(XK_BackSpace, XCF_Cancel); } else { add_binding(BUTTON2, XCF_Text_Return); add_binding(SHIFT | BUTTON1, XCF_Text_Return); add_binding(BUTTON2, XCF_Select);
add_binding(SHIFT | BUTTON1, XCF_Select); add_binding(HOLD | BUTTON2, XCF_SelectBox); add_binding(SHIFT | HOLD | BUTTON1, XCF_Select); add_binding(BUTTON2, XCF_Finish_Element); add_binding(SHIFT | BUTTON1, XCF_Finish_Element); add_binding(BUTTON2, XCF_Finish_Copy); add_binding(SHIFT | BUTTON1, XCF_Finish_Copy); add_binding(BUTTON3, XCF_Cancel_Last); add_binding(BUTTON3, XCF_Cancel); } ---Tim+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+| Dr. R. Timothy Edwards (Tim) | email: ti...@op... || Open Circuit Design, Inc. | web: http://opencircuitdesign.com || 22815 Timber Creek Lane | phone: (301) 528-9364 || Clarksburg, MD 20871-4001 | cell: (240) 401-0616 |+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ |
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From: R. T. E. <ti...@mu...> - 2006-02-21 02:13:55
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Dear Michael,
> BTW, the Shift+Button1 trick to emulate Button2, mentionned in a
> previous thread, doesn't seem to work with the current Win32 version.
> The fact is that I don't see in the code where this is achieved. Is this
> recent addition or am I blind?
Hmmm, it wasn't that recent, but it apparently was (unintentionally)
temporary. The Shift + Button1 bindings can be added to
keybindings.c to duplicate all of the Button2 bindings, at line 698:
/* 2-button vs. 3-button mouse bindings (set with -2 */
/* commandline option; 3-button bindings default) */
if (pressmode) {
add_binding(BUTTON3, XCF_Text_Return);
add_binding(BUTTON3, XCF_Select);
add_binding(HOLD | BUTTON3, XCF_SelectBox);
add_binding(BUTTON3, XCF_Finish_Element);
add_binding(BUTTON3, XCF_Finish_Copy);
add_binding(XK_BackSpace, XCF_Cancel_Last);
add_binding(XK_BackSpace, XCF_Cancel);
}
else {
add_binding(BUTTON2, XCF_Text_Return);
add_binding(SHIFT | BUTTON1, XCF_Text_Return);
add_binding(BUTTON2, XCF_Select);
add_binding(SHIFT | BUTTON1, XCF_Select);
add_binding(HOLD | BUTTON2, XCF_SelectBox);
add_binding(SHIFT | HOLD | BUTTON1, XCF_Select);
add_binding(BUTTON2, XCF_Finish_Element);
add_binding(SHIFT | BUTTON1, XCF_Finish_Element);
add_binding(BUTTON2, XCF_Finish_Copy);
add_binding(SHIFT | BUTTON1, XCF_Finish_Copy);
add_binding(BUTTON3, XCF_Cancel_Last);
add_binding(BUTTON3, XCF_Cancel);
}
---Tim
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
| Dr. R. Timothy Edwards (Tim) | email: ti...@op... |
| Open Circuit Design, Inc. | web: http://opencircuitdesign.com |
| 22815 Timber Creek Lane | phone: (301) 528-9364 |
| Clarksburg, MD 20871-4001 | cell: (240) 401-0616 |
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
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From: <mic...@sw...> - 2006-02-20 14:17:37
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BTW, the Shift+Button1 trick to emulate Button2, mentionned in a previous thread, doesn't seem to work with the current Win32 version. The fact is that I don't see in the code where this is achieved. Is this recent addition or am I blind? Michael. Hi all, I updated the XCircuit/Win32 version available on http://www.geocities.com/sw286000/: this new package contains the current scripting capabilities in a very early stage. This feature consists of 2 parts: 1) JScript, 2) .NET plugins. Some info and an additional screenshot available at the address mentionned above. Have fun. Michael. |
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From: <mic...@sw...> - 2006-02-20 14:13:45
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Hi all, I updated the XCircuit/Win32 version available on http://www.geocities.com/sw286000/: this new package contains the current scripting capabilities in a very early stage. This feature consists of 2 parts: 1) JScript, 2) .NET plugins. Some info and an additional screenshot available at the address mentionned above. Have fun. Michael. |
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From: Yiming L. <yi...@kc...> - 2006-02-20 14:02:16
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The xcircuit worked great until recently. When I start it, xcircuit shows up briefly then a massage ' Segmentation fault <core dumped>' is displayed and xcircuit is shut off. Please help. Thanks a lot |
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From: Tim H. <tch...@so...> - 2006-02-19 16:05:00
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Hello, I just downloaded xcircuit-3.4.11.tgz and tried to compile, but it failed saying: xcwrap.c:12:16: tk.h: No such file or directory Configure says this: checking for tclConfig.sh... /usr/lib/tclConfig.sh checking for tkConfig.sh... /usr/lib/tkConfig.sh RedHat uses Tcl/Tk 8.4. Any ideas? Thanks, Tim |
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From: Matthew J. <jac...@co...> - 2006-02-11 19:09:33
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R. Timothy Edwards wrote:
> Dear M.,
>
>> First off, I LOVE this program. I use it for just about everything I
>> can because of the seamless transition from design / simulation to
>> publication quality figure insertion.
>
> I don't know how many published circuits I've seen containing drawing
> errors. Everyone knows that you always use the same source circuit
> file to simulate and do LVS, but there's no such consensus that you
> should always use the same source circuit file to simulate, do LVS,
> AND publish. It's like they treat it as clip art or something.
This is precisely what brought me to this tool to begin with. I was
absolutely shocked to discover that very high-dollar, high-profile EDA
tools (e.g. Cadence, Synopsys, etc.) produced awful graphical output
without some convoluted, ineffective process. Toss in the fact that you
can directly insert LaTeX into the schematic and it's a no-brainer. I
must admit that I didn't initially use XCircuit for schematic capture.
It was the most viable alternative to Dia, Visio, and Kivio. That being
said, once I discovered the capability to produce SPICE compatible
output, I haven't looked back. Again, I offer GREAT THANKS to those that
have put forth so much effort into this project.
>
>> I am currently trying to use XCircuit to do some mixed-signal
>> modeling and am having a difficult time generating the proper XSPICE
>> syntax from the 'spice' line.
>>
>> For XSPICE, I have to deal with behavioral nodes which are vectorized
>> [nodes must be in brackets] as shown below:
>>
>> XSPICE netlist -
>> ainv1 [logic_input] [logic_output] xspice_inverter
>> .model xspice_inverter inv1(blah blah blah)
>>
>> I have tried every possible permutation imaginable on the %p pin
>> designation to get the brackets included in the output. If this is
>> possible, I would be very thankful if someone would show me how.
>
> I take exception to your use of the phrase "every possible permutation",
> since you missed the one that works.
Dually noted ....
> Anyway, it is helpful to understand
> that the "usual" syntax, e.g., %pin %pout, is really just a shorthand
> notation that relies on there being expected whitespace after the pin
> name in the output file. In all other cases, the pin name should be
> enclosed in quotes so that xcircuit knows, for example in your case,
> that the pin name is "in" and not "in]". So, the correct xcircuit line
> is:
>
> spice:ainv%i [%p"in"] [%p"out"] xspice_inverter
>
> I admit that's a bit subtle.
>
> Regards,
> Tim
That works like a charm. And it's much more intuitive than my 'work
around' .... I did the following:
spice: xinv%i %plogic_input %plogic_output my_inverter
spice:.INCLUDE /some/directory/here/work_around.mod
*////////////////////////////////////////////
* work_around.mod contents:
*////////////////////////////////////////////
.subckt my_inverter input output
ainv [input] [output] xspice_inverter
.model xspice_inverter inv(blah blah blah)
.ends
Thanks again for the response. The 'correct' procedure is far more
intuitive than my convoluted work around. Consequently, the capability
to provide direct XSPICE compatible output allows for XCircuit to
function as an effective schematic capture front end to a true
mixed-mode simulation environment (I use ng-spice currently). That is
nothing short of amazing!
I don't fancy myself as a 'coder', but if ever I could offer a
contribution of time to this project, please let me know. Thanks again
for providing such a great tool!
Matthew Jackson
Hardware Design Engineer
JT3 LLC
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From: R. T. E. <ti...@mu...> - 2006-02-10 23:08:33
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Dear M., > First off, I LOVE this program. I use it for just about everything I can > because of the seamless transition from design / simulation to > publication quality figure insertion. I don't know how many published circuits I've seen containing drawing errors. Everyone knows that you always use the same source circuit file to simulate and do LVS, but there's no such consensus that you should always use the same source circuit file to simulate, do LVS, AND publish. It's like they treat it as clip art or something. > I am currently trying to use XCircuit to do some > mixed-signal modeling and am having a difficult time generating the > proper XSPICE syntax from the 'spice' line. > > For XSPICE, I have to deal with behavioral nodes which are vectorized > [nodes must be in brackets] as shown below: > > XSPICE netlist - > ainv1 [logic_input] [logic_output] xspice_inverter > .model xspice_inverter inv1(blah blah blah) > > I have tried every possible permutation imaginable on the %p pin > designation to get the brackets included in the output. If this is > possible, I would be very thankful if someone would show me how. I take exception to your use of the phrase "every possible permutation", since you missed the one that works. Anyway, it is helpful to understand that the "usual" syntax, e.g., %pin %pout, is really just a shorthand notation that relies on there being expected whitespace after the pin name in the output file. In all other cases, the pin name should be enclosed in quotes so that xcircuit knows, for example in your case, that the pin name is "in" and not "in]". So, the correct xcircuit line is: spice:ainv%i [%p"in"] [%p"out"] xspice_inverter I admit that's a bit subtle. Regards, Tim +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Dr. R. Timothy Edwards (Tim) | email: ti...@op... | | Open Circuit Design, Inc. | web: http://opencircuitdesign.com | | 22815 Timber Creek Lane | phone: (301) 528-9364 | | Clarksburg, MD 20871-4001 | cell: (240) 401-0616 | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ |
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From: Matthew J. <fbs...@gm...> - 2006-02-09 00:16:06
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First off, I LOVE this program. I use it for just about everything I can because of the seamless transition from design / simulation to publication quality figure insertion. I'm just curious about something. I can currently generate fully functional SPICE netlists and have built up quite a robust library of sources and part= s from various vendors with only minor PSPICE corrections. However, I am currently trying to use XCircuit to do some mixed-signal modeling and am having a difficult time generating the proper XSPICE syntax from the 'spice= ' line. For instance, I have the following information on my example inverter symbol: Standard SPICE: XCircuit Output from Symbol - spice:xinv%i %pin %pout my_inverter spice:.model my_inverter inv(blah blah blah) SPICE netlist - xinv1 input output my_inverter .model my_inverter inv(blah blah blah) For XSPICE, I have to deal with behavioral nodes which are vectorized [node= s must be in brackets] as shown below: XSPICE netlist - ainv1 [logic_input] [logic_output] xspice_inverter .model xspice_inverter inv1(blah blah blah) I have tried every possible permutation imaginable on the %p pin designatio= n to get the brackets included in the output. If this is possible, I would be very thankful if someone would show me how. Thanks in advance, M. Jackson |
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From: <mic...@sw...> - 2006-02-08 10:02:57
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You're welcome :-) For your information, I already found some bugs (for example with the line width of filled paths), which are solved but still part of the available executable. I'm also in the process of trying to make XCircuit-win32 scriptable through JScript (javascript), with an additional thin layer providing access to .NET (mainly for GUI). Bye. Michael. rumor has it that mic...@sw... wrote:> Hi, For fun, I developed a native Win32 version of Xcircuit (mainly> by emulating X11 calls). People interested can find a> self-installing executable and more infos at> http://www.geocities.com/sw286000 >Wonderful!!!I just got a laptop that I have not yet found time to install Linux on- so I'm \"stuck\" in windows for a while. And I _can't_ live withoutXCircuit!! And I know folks that could make use of the features ofXCircuit but aren't willing to mess with Cygwin (nor can I take on anymore adminitrator jobs...)Thank you, thank you!!-- Philip |
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From: R. T. E. <ti...@mu...> - 2006-02-05 16:34:06
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Dear Philip, > But I have a problem.... > > On my (for now) only Windows laptop, all is well if I have my USB > mouse plugged in. But the trackpad only has 2 buttons! > > Do any of you know a way to get a third button click from my > trackpad? While in Windows XP?? The better way is to use the various 2-button methods for xcircuit. One of these is to invoke the xcircuit executable with the option "-2". This moves the middle mouse button functions to the right mouse button, and the right mouse button functions (usually "cancel") are moved to the "escape" key. In 3-button mode, you can also use Shift-Button-1 to perform the same function as the middle button. Hope that helps! ---Tim +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Dr. R. Timothy Edwards (Tim) | email: ti...@op... | | Open Circuit Design, Inc. | web: http://opencircuitdesign.com | | 22815 Timber Creek Lane | phone: (301) 528-9364 | | Clarksburg, MD 20871-4001 | cell: (240) 401-0616 | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ |
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From: Philip <sil...@us...> - 2006-02-05 06:12:45
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rumor has it that mic...@sw... wrote: > For fun, I developed a native Win32 version of Xcircuit (mainly by > emulating X11 calls). People interested can find a self-installing > executable and more infos at http://www.geocities.com/sw286000 This is good news! It's bad enough to be occasionally stuck in Windows - but to be stuck there without XCircuit... And there are folk who can benefit from XCircuit, but won't (or can't) cope with installing Cygwin. But I have a problem.... On my (for now) only Windows laptop, all is well if I have my USB mouse plugged in. But the trackpad only has 2 buttons! Do any of you know a way to get a third button click from my trackpad? While in Windows XP?? Thanks! -- Philip |
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From: <mic...@sw...> - 2006-01-26 13:09:26
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Hi, For fun, I developed a native Win32 version of Xcircuit (mainly by emulating X11 calls). People interested can find a self-installing executable and more infos at http://www.geocities.com/sw286000 Bye. Michael. |
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From: Graham S. <gsh...@xt...> - 2005-12-02 10:15:32
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Hi, Is there a logo that I can obtain for xcircuit to place into the menu of KDE. I am new to linux systems and currently in the process of setting up GNU/Linux (debian) and will be looking into ubuntu shortly. I changed from windows as I want to use Kile, LaTeX, xfig and xcircuit for writing an integrated manaul of electronic engineering for naval technicians. Graham. |
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From: Raf K. <ra...@ro...> - 2005-11-30 21:02:39
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Hi, First of all great tool! It is very popular in our group here at University of Toronto. I'm using it for all my publications and my circuits ALWAYS look great! I'm writing my thesis now and I'm going to draw ALL my figures in xcircuit! There is just one thing I cannot draw and have to do fancy things and use other tools, and that's drawing sinusoids. This is a must for drawing mixers and such. Any chance of including this in a future release? Thanks, Raf |
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From: R. T. E. <tim...@mu...> - 2005-11-21 22:07:13
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Dear Zvezdan, > Once you have a stable version fixed just tell me and I'll fix the port > so that it can be commited in the OpenBSD ports tree. I have officially split the source code into two branches. Version 3.4.10 is the "stable" branch, and version 3.5.1 is the "development" branch (which I'm still developing, so it won't get posted for a couple more days). I will only provide bug fixes for the 3.4 branch, with no new features to limit the introduction of new bugs. It is probably wise to wait a couple of weeks before commiting this to a real distribution, since I cobbled together version 3.4.10 from 3.4.7 and selected bug fixes from 3.4.8-9, which allows the possibility of either more bugs than before, or the omission of bug fixes. I did, however, exercise the various parts of the code that were changed between 3.4.7 and 3.4.9, and everything seems to be working correctly. Regards, Tim +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Dr. R. Timothy Edwards (Tim) | email: tim...@mu... | | MultiGiG, Inc. | web: http://www.multigig.com | | 100 Enterprise Way, Suite A-3 | phone: (831) 621-3283 | | Scotts Valley, CA 95066 | cell: (240) 401-0616 | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ |
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From: R. T. E. <ti...@mu...> - 2005-11-19 22:06:52
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Dear Zvezdan, > I've sent you yesterday the patches for the port of XCircuit to OpenBSD. > Now, I have a question. > > On the download web page you say that the latest source is recommended > over the "stable" version. However, it has changed three times in the > last 20 days. That means that there were either lot of bug fixes or > addition of new features (that can potentially lead to the new bugs). > > Since the ports in OpenBSD CVS are upgraded regularly between the > 6-month releases, I would have to check in the new versions of XCircuit > couple of times per month, which is perhaps a load on CVS that is not > necessary. > > Also, there's always a potential danger of checking in the version with > a bug just before the official OpenBSD release, and than people who use > only releases (not the -current) would be stuck with it for the next 6 > months or even longer if they don't upgrade at every release. > > In that light, would it be better to follow the "stable" version of the > port? > > Another option would be to make a stable and snapshot version of the > port and have people "pick their poison". You're absolutely right. Since I'm now working on the next batch of fairly major changes in xcircuit, I think I'll stop here and backtrack a bit. Version 3.4.7 is probably the most stable version; I can patch that up with some of the bug fixes of revisions 8 and 9 (including your last patch), and renumber 3.4.10 as 3.5.0, where the 3.5 branch will then be the development version while the 3.4 branch will be the stable version, to be updated only with necessary bug fixes, and not with further development. It won't be done today, but hopefully it will be done by Monday or Tuesday. Regards, Tim +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Dr. R. Timothy Edwards (Tim) | email: ti...@op... | | Open Circuit Design, Inc. | web: http://opencircuitdesign.com | | 22815 Timber Creek Lane | phone: (301) 528-9364 | | Clarksburg, MD 20871-4001 | cell: (240) 401-0616 | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ |
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From: Svenn A. B. <sv...@bj...> - 2005-11-16 22:49:44
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On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 01:11:05 -0600 Philip <sil...@us...> wrote: > rumor has it that R. wrote: > > > Dear Svenn, > > > > > ... wouldn't it be feasible to get one of > > > these web-based boards up and running for the tools that > > > now have their home on opencircuitdesign.com? I find > > > mailinglists little useful and the traffic is not big > > > enough for a dedicated USENET group. > > > > I have found many times that I wish I had the info I have > > > at home in my mailbox at work and the other way > > > around. A web-based bulletin board would solve that. > > Just my opinion, but I much prefer an e-mail list over web-based > forums/boards. I have no problem with _both_ just I'd rather not be > stuck with only the web-based methods. I haven't paid any interest at *how* these web boards work so far as I actually never liked them until the day spam arrived at my door. Mailling lists is in my opinion *the* way to communicate between people on a development team. Most likely the information in such a list is of very short living like where is the bug, what code to check in where in CVS etc. This has normally no particular interest to the end-user. For user support I find USENET *the* medium because of groups.google.com. I can also choose to use whatever tool I like for posting, and with programs like leafnode I can slurp articles onto my laptop and take with me and then sync my answers when I am back home. > > I'm not a developer, so if that would be good for the developers - > well so be it. Yeah, but it is normally a bit irritating when too much user support land in low traffic developer mail. Your heart normally beats a bit faster when somebody reports a problem on a developer list than on a user support list. > > I don't have a permanent internet connection so I usually am not > connected when I read/respond to posts. I also have a local archive > that's searchable with tools more powerful and much faster than the > web forums. I realize this works only for the mail I've revieved, so > if I've not been subscribed long enough the web archive is quite > valuable. The only reason for using a web-board is that you have total control: Who is there and what is discussed. You can avoid a lot of spam being transferred on your mailinglist (It _is_ giving a bad reputation if your mailinglist is distributing spam, and you will quickly find that key users leave a list if spam is coming in.) I would also love to use a wiki, but the concept is still a bit experimental with rather poor standards. They also fit best for static information like wikipedia and does not support questions and answers type of communication as well as the boards. And there are too many top-posters ... > > > > What do you think, Tim? > > > > I think I've had it with SourceForge's mailing list. > > > A few weekends ago, I went > > through the process of removing all the spam email from the list, > **snip** > > I had wasted the entire afternoon, and several requests to SourceForge > > didn't help, as they never told me how I can remove unwanted postings. > > > So I'm open to suggestions, help, etc. > > Do you have space/bandwidth to run the list on the server that host > your domain? Problem with my ISP is that there is a traffic limit and then I start to pay, which is not so cool when you don't make any money with the traffic, otherwise I would be serving EDA stuff. > > > I'd write more, but my 4-year-old > > wants to play "Chutes & Ladders", so I guess that's as much work as I'm > > going to get done on the computer this evening. > > Ahh. The important part of life! *smile* Mine is only 5 months old and the more I play with him, the earlier he gets tired and wants to sleep. -- Svenn |
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From: Philip <sil...@us...> - 2005-11-16 07:11:58
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rumor has it that R. wrote: > Dear Svenn, > > > ... wouldn't it be feasible to get one of > > these web-based boards up and running for the tools that > > now have their home on opencircuitdesign.com? I find > > mailinglists little useful and the traffic is not big > > enough for a dedicated USENET group. > > I have found many times that I wish I had the info I have > > at home in my mailbox at work and the other way > > around. A web-based bulletin board would solve that. Just my opinion, but I much prefer an e-mail list over web-based forums/boards. I have no problem with _both_ just I'd rather not be stuck with only the web-based methods. I'm not a developer, so if that would be good for the developers - well so be it. I don't have a permanent internet connection so I usually am not connected when I read/respond to posts. I also have a local archive that's searchable with tools more powerful and much faster than the web forums. I realize this works only for the mail I've revieved, so if I've not been subscribed long enough the web archive is quite valuable. > > What do you think, Tim? > I think I've had it with SourceForge's mailing list. > A few weekends ago, I went > through the process of removing all the spam email from the list, **snip** > I had wasted the entire afternoon, and several requests to SourceForge > didn't help, as they never told me how I can remove unwanted postings. > So I'm open to suggestions, help, etc. Do you have space/bandwidth to run the list on the server that host your domain? > I'd write more, but my 4-year-old > wants to play "Chutes & Ladders", so I guess that's as much work as I'm > going to get done on the computer this evening. Ahh. The important part of life! *smile* Philip |
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From: R. T. E. <ti...@mu...> - 2005-11-16 04:42:55
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Dear Svenn, > It is always easy to suggest things that other people should do, but wouldn't it be feasible to get one of > these web-based boards up and running for the tools that now have their home on opencircuitdesign.com? I find > mailinglists little useful and the traffic is not big enough for a dedicated USENET group. comp.lsi.cad could be > something, but not all like to use USENET. With a bulletin board it could theoretically become easier to > coordinate efforts within the various projects. > > I have found many times that I wish I had the info I have at home in my mailbox at work and the other way > around. A web-based bulletin board would solve that. I know it is a hassle to do all that registering and keep > updated on passwords etc, but then at least there is less chance for spam (little if any lately on any of the > lists). > > What do you think, Tim? I think I've had it with SourceForge's mailing list. It has the worst user interface, in particular that I, the mailing list owner, can't directly edit the content of the list. A few weekends ago, I went through the process of removing all the spam email from the list, which was a laborious process taking about 10 seconds per email, so it took me most of the afternoon. A few days later, I checked the list and discovered to my horror that all of the spam emails were still there--- I had wasted the entire afternoon, and several requests to SourceForge didn't help, as they never told me how I can remove unwanted postings. All they told me was how to STOP unwanted postings, which is (apparently the only way) to require that all posters be registered with SourceForge. Which is something I'd rather not do. I'd prefer to just have spam filters and delete whatever spam manages to get through. So I'm open to suggestions, help, etc. I'd write more, but my 4-year-old wants to play "Chutes & Ladders", so I guess that's as much work as I'm going to get done on the computer this evening. Regards, Tim +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Dr. R. Timothy Edwards (Tim) | email: ti...@op... | | Open Circuit Design, Inc. | web: http://opencircuitdesign.com | | 22815 Timber Creek Lane | phone: (301) 528-9364 | | Clarksburg, MD 20871-4001 | cell: (240) 401-0616 | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ |
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From: R. T. E. <ti...@mu...> - 2005-11-15 19:23:48
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Dear Philip,
> A issue has shown up. I have a 5-page document. Page two needs addition
> detail, so I would like to add another page for the extra information.
> But I don't really want it at the _end_ - I would much rather that it
> be next to the existing "page 2".
>
> Is there a way to insert a page after the existing "page 2" and have
> pages 3-5 ripple down to become pages 4-6?
The method is:
1) Create the new page at the end (page 6)
1) Go to the page directory
2) Select (middle mouse button) the page you want to move (page 6).
3) Position the cursor between the pages where you want the page to be
(between pages 2 and 3).
4) Type "M" for "move".
Unfortunately, I broke this in version 3.4 by inadvertantly disallowing
selections in the page directory. I just fixed the error and posted
the revision as xcircuit version 3.4.9.
Maybe one day I'll get around to a more interactive page move command,
and/or a Tcl command to do the equivalent thing.
Regards,
Tim
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| Dr. R. Timothy Edwards (Tim) | email: ti...@op... |
| Open Circuit Design, Inc. | web: http://opencircuitdesign.com |
| 22815 Timber Creek Lane | phone: (301) 528-9364 |
| Clarksburg, MD 20871-4001 | cell: (240) 401-0616 |
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From: Philip <sil...@us...> - 2005-11-15 01:38:04
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I have been using XCircuit heavily for years.
But the only time I've done anything with multi-page has been by
accident. But now I'm giving it a _delibrate_ try.
A issue has shown up. I have a 5-page document. Page two needs addition
detail, so I would like to add another page for the extra information.
But I don't really want it at the _end_ - I would much rather that it
be next to the existing "page 2".
Is there a way to insert a page after the existing "page 2" and have
pages 3-5 ripple down to become pages 4-6?
Thanks for any ideas!!
Philip
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From: Svenn A. B. <sv...@bj...> - 2005-11-09 22:25:32
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On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 10:14:23 -0800 "R. Timothy Edwards" <tim...@mu...> wrote: > Erwin J. Prinz wrote: > > > * Can you announce on the mailing list that the old web site is out of > > date? I stumbled by accident on the 7.3.108 version at > > opencircuitdesign.com whereas the old web site http://bach.ece.jhu.edu > > contains only the 7.3.106 version. > > Okay, here's the announcement: I've been getting increasingly It is always easy to suggest things that other people should do, but wouldn't it be feasible to get one of these web-based boards up and running for the tools that now have their home on opencircuitdesign.com? I find mailinglists little useful and the traffic is not big enough for a dedicated USENET group. comp.lsi.cad could be something, but not all like to use USENET. With a bulletin board it could theoretically become easier to coordinate efforts within the various projects. I have found many times that I wish I had the info I have at home in my mailbox at work and the other way around. A web-based bulletin board would solve that. I know it is a hassle to do all that registering and keep updated on passwords etc, but then at least there is less chance for spam (little if any lately on any of the lists). What do you think, Tim? -- Svenn |
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From: R. T. E. <tim...@mu...> - 2005-11-08 17:44:54
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Dear Svenn, >> Oh, yes. I was told that quite a long time ago and had forgotten about >> it. However, I still just recommend using the numbers on the keypad to >> rejustify, since it's much faster. > > And for those of us with "Happy Hacker" Keyboards? > I'll fix the menu error. I just forgot about it last time. If you have a better solution for a shortcut that doesn't require the keypad, I'd be happy to try to implement it (e.g., a single key binding that cycles between the 9 justification positions). I went out and bought a cheap USB keypad, which was my solution to the problem of dealing with the obscure arrangement of function key + keyboard keys on my laptop. ---Tim +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Dr. R. Timothy Edwards (Tim) | email: tim...@mu... | | MultiGiG, Inc. | web: http://www.multigig.com | | 100 Enterprise Way, Suite A-3 | phone: (831) 621-3283 | | Scotts Valley, CA 95066 | cell: (240) 401-0616 | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ |
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From: R. T. E. <tim...@mu...> - 2005-11-08 17:24:33
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Dear Don, > ... now that you describe the action of the push button in 3.4, I see > how it works. Although if you select an object first, then click on the > push button--nothing happens. Perhaps a message in the bottom bar would > help. That one *is* an error---if something is selected, the buttons such as "delete", "copy", "push", etc., should act immediately on that object, rather than changing the button-1 binding modes. I'll fix that when I get a chance. > I'm suspecting you're using integer values (with an implied binary > point) for speed (something I'd do too). I probably would have set the > 64 internal units to equal 1/4 inch, just to make everything a power of > 2. That would then seem obvious to me, but still not to the typical > user. Yes, it's integer internal units multiplied by a floating-point value to get absolute output coordinates. The unusual choice of 1/6 inch has to do with trying to keep *both* inch and centimeter units on a rational grid. So xcircuit can swap between a grid at 1/6 inch or 0.4 cm. This assumes 2.5cm = 1in, so there's a "fudge factor" of 2.54 / 2.5 between reported centimeter values and actual output (printed) dimensions. How sensible that all is, is debatable, but at any rate, it's the way I've done it. Regards, Tim +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Dr. R. Timothy Edwards (Tim) | email: tim...@mu... | | MultiGiG, Inc. | web: http://www.multigig.com | | 100 Enterprise Way, Suite A-3 | phone: (831) 621-3283 | | Scotts Valley, CA 95066 | cell: (240) 401-0616 | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ |
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