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From: Francesco M. <f18...@ya...> - 2006-02-14 11:15:21
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Hi, >Francesco Montorsi wrote: >> I think that using a CMS like Joomla is a bit overkill for this project. >> CMS are good when there are daily changes or so. >> In fact, they require quite powerful servers as they are not extremely fast - they use ton of tables in a database and a page often requires up to 20-30 database accesses. >It happened that i ordered my own site this weekend, where one could >automaticaly install mambo and what not. >And only uses one database table in mysql for mambo?? are you sure it used a single table ? Last time I looked at it, IIRC it was using a single database but more than 20 tables in that db... anyway the real problem is not the number of tables but the number of times that they are accessed per page. SF servers are not extremely fast and I prefer a site which looks a bit more 'static' but is faster rather than something CMS-based which is more 'dynamic' but slower ;) >But never mind, i like the PHP solution too ;-) Something i am bussy >learning in combination with mysql. ok, so let's go for PHP. >> Using PHP it's very easy to setup a site using one of the open source web designs at http://www.oswd.org. Unfortunately the site seems down right now so I suggest you to go directly in author's webpages like >> >> http://haran.freeshell.org/oswd/ >> >> For some real-world examples of OSWD in actions you can look at: >> >> http://bakefile.sourceforge.net/ >> http://wxcode.sourceforge.net/ >> http://mathdev.sourceforge.net/ >> >> >> specially the last one uses the Prosimii template by Haran: >> >> http://haran.freeshell.org/oswd/prosimii/ >> >> which I think would be nice for wxLua, too. > >I can't get to those links from where i am, will have a look later, but >take whatever you like best. >Good to know nice examples do exist. as I said, I'd use the last one, Prosimii, but before I start the work I'd like to be sure it's okay for everyone... is it ? Francesco PS: I'm going to add a new module to CVS called 'website'... |
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From: klaas.holwerda <kho...@xs...> - 2006-02-14 16:26:08
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Francesco Montorsi wrote: > > as I said, I'd use the last one, Prosimii, but before I start the work > I'd like to be sure it's okay for everyone... is it ? I don't know why i would choice one above te other. For the looks i like Gila and Sinorca. But you choose what is best for you. Klaas |
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From: Francesco M. <f18...@ya...> - 2006-02-14 17:11:58
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klaas.holwerda ha scritto: > Francesco Montorsi wrote: > >> >> as I said, I'd use the last one, Prosimii, but before I start the work >> I'd like to be sure it's okay for everyone... is it ? > > I don't know why i would choice one above te other. sorry if I wasn't clear: I mean that we should first choice some good template basing on the look. > For the looks i like Gila and Sinorca. ok, what about you John ? > But you choose what is best for you. for me any design is good from the PHP POV. I just want to agree first on the graphical look of the website. Just a matter of taste ;) Francesco |
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From: Francesco M. <f18...@ya...> - 2006-02-15 17:35:46
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The repository of Open Source Web design is resurrected; I suggest you
to visit:
http://www.oswd.org/designs/browse/
it could be appropriated also a design like "Sliqua"...
Francesco
Francesco Montorsi ha scritto:
> klaas.holwerda ha scritto:
>> Francesco Montorsi wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> as I said, I'd use the last one, Prosimii, but before I start the
>>> work I'd like to be sure it's okay for everyone... is it ?
>>
>> I don't know why i would choice one above te other.
> sorry if I wasn't clear: I mean that we should first choice some good
> template basing on the look.
>
>> For the looks i like Gila and Sinorca.
> ok, what about you John ?
>
>
>> But you choose what is best for you.
> for me any design is good from the PHP POV. I just want to agree first
> on the graphical look of the website. Just a matter of taste ;)
>
> Francesco
>
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From: Francesco M. <f18...@ya...> - 2006-02-16 23:24:28
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I've installed a very preliminar version of the website at http://wxlua.sourceforge.net obviously everything can be changed. Just let me know which pages you think are missing / what should be changed / if you like the webdesign or your would prefer something else... Francesco Francesco Montorsi ha scritto: > The repository of Open Source Web design is resurrected; I suggest you > to visit: > > http://www.oswd.org/designs/browse/ > > it could be appropriated also a design like "Sliqua"... > > Francesco > > > > Francesco Montorsi ha scritto: >> klaas.holwerda ha scritto: >>> Francesco Montorsi wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> as I said, I'd use the last one, Prosimii, but before I start the >>>> work I'd like to be sure it's okay for everyone... is it ? >>> >>> I don't know why i would choice one above te other. >> sorry if I wasn't clear: I mean that we should first choice some good >> template basing on the look. >> >>> For the looks i like Gila and Sinorca. >> ok, what about you John ? >> >> >>> But you choose what is best for you. >> for me any design is good from the PHP POV. I just want to agree first >> on the graphical look of the website. Just a matter of taste ;) >> >> Francesco >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log >> files >> for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes >> searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! >> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log > files > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 |
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From: klaas.holwerda <kho...@xs...> - 2006-02-17 16:19:44
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Francesco Montorsi wrote: > I've installed a very preliminar version of the website at Oke! > obviously everything can be changed. > Just let me know which pages you think are missing Maybe: Mailinglist Browse CVS FAQ > / what should be changed / if you like the webdesign or your would > prefer something else... Plain, but does the job, Klaas |
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From: Francesco M. <f18...@ya...> - 2006-02-19 11:47:14
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Hi,
in the end I think Sliqua as bad choice: it heavily uses tables and
transform it to use CSS blocks is not easy.
So I've changed to Gila template as you suggested in previous mails...
however I feel the colours need some corrective touchs... if anyone has
good idea please let me know - I've never been good in deciding colours ;)
klaas.holwerda ha scritto:
>> obviously everything can be changed.
>> Just let me know which pages you think are missing
>
> Maybe:
>
> Mailinglist
shouldn't be in support page?
> Browse CVS
this should go in download page, isn't it?
> FAQ
I replaced Authors page with Documentation page; I think FAQ and author
list could go there...
Francesco
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From: klaas.holwerda <kho...@xs...> - 2006-02-19 13:30:46
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Francesco Montorsi wrote: > Hi, > in the end I think Sliqua as bad choice: it heavily uses tables and > transform it to use CSS blocks is not easy. > > So I've changed to Gila template as you suggested in previous mails... > however I feel the colours need some corrective touchs... if anyone > has good idea please let me know - I've never been good in deciding > colours ;) I think it would be nice to have a black to yellow gradient, to make to connection to lua (moon at night). And i thinking of what would be a nice logo for wxLua. A moon is easy, like the wxwidgets logo ( the blocks ), circulating/orbiting a moon around them. Simular to the lua logo itself, but here around wxWidgest. This expresses the wrapping of lua around wx. I will try it with illustrator. > > > klaas.holwerda ha scritto: > >>> obviously everything can be changed. >>> Just let me know which pages you think are missing >> >> >> Maybe: >> >> Mailinglist > > shouldn't be in support page? Oke. > >> Browse CVS > > this should go in download page, isn't it? I wonder, maybe its more documentation? ciao, Klaas |
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From: Francesco M. <f18...@ya...> - 2006-02-19 14:26:17
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Hi, klaas.holwerda ha scritto: >> in the end I think Sliqua as bad choice: it heavily uses tables and >> transform it to use CSS blocks is not easy. >> >> So I've changed to Gila template as you suggested in previous mails... >> however I feel the colours need some corrective touchs... if anyone >> has good idea please let me know - I've never been good in deciding >> colours ;) > > I think it would be nice to have a black to yellow gradient, to make to > connection to lua (moon at night). I created the gradient. It doesn't look bad ;) > And i thinking of what would be a nice logo for wxLua. A moon is easy, > like the wxwidgets logo ( the blocks ), circulating/orbiting a moon > around them. Simular to the lua logo itself, but here around wxWidgest. > This expresses the wrapping of lua around wx. nice idea ! > > I will try it with illustrator. good luck - last time I tried to create a logo the results were not so good :( >>> Browse CVS >> >> this should go in download page, isn't it? > > I wonder, maybe its more documentation? maybe a link in both places is best. A problem I'm facing now is that I'd like to setup a synchronization script for SF news archive and wxLua website news box (something like the one in wxCode website) so that news can be easily added through the SF news tracker and they automatically appear also on wxLua website... however SF says that I have not enough permissions to access news tracker and to add a new 'news' entry (which I need for testing)... could anyone give me news-tracker permissions? Thanks, Francesco |
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From: klaas.holwerda <kho...@xs...> - 2006-02-19 15:41:11
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Francesco Montorsi wrote: > Hi, > > klaas.holwerda ha scritto: > >>> in the end I think Sliqua as bad choice: it heavily uses tables >>> and transform it to use CSS blocks is not easy. >>> >>> So I've changed to Gila template as you suggested in previous >>> mails... however I feel the colours need some corrective touchs... >>> if anyone has good idea please let me know - I've never been good in >>> deciding colours ;) >> >> >> I think it would be nice to have a black to yellow gradient, to make >> to connection to lua (moon at night). > > I created the gradient. It doesn't look bad ;) I love it :-) I think the rest of the background colours in the right menu etc, could be something in between the yellow and black too. Or is did already the case? It loooks a bit brownish? > >> And i thinking of what would be a nice logo for wxLua. A moon is >> easy, like the wxwidgets logo ( the blocks ), circulating/orbiting a >> moon around them. Simular to the lua logo itself, but here around >> wxWidgest. >> This expresses the wrapping of lua around wx. > > nice idea ! The yellow should look like the one in here if i did it right ;-) http://www.xs4all.nl/~kholwerd/tmp/lualogo/ I have it vector, so i can do with it what is needed. >> >> I wonder, maybe its more documentation? > > maybe a link in both places is best. > > > A problem I'm facing now is that I'd like to setup a synchronization > script for SF news archive and wxLua website news box (something like > the one in wxCode website) so that news can be easily added through > the SF news tracker and they automatically appear also on wxLua > website... > > however SF says that I have not enough permissions to access news > tracker and to add a new 'news' entry (which I need for testing)... > could anyone give me news-tracker permissions? Maybe i can, i don't know yet, will try :-) Klaas |
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From: Francesco M. <f18...@ya...> - 2006-02-19 19:31:37
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Hi, klaas.holwerda ha scritto: > Francesco Montorsi wrote: >> I created the gradient. It doesn't look bad ;) > > I love it :-) I think the rest of the background colours in the right > menu etc, could be something in between the yellow and black too. Or is > did already the case? It loooks a bit brownish? Well, I've tried to play a little with the rgb() calls of style.css but I did not reach any good (i.e. nice) solution... also I think it's not very bad as it is now... you can do experiment yourself with website colours just saving the page from your browser and then modifying the style.css file and refreshing the page in the browser; let me know if you get some good results ;) >>> And i thinking of what would be a nice logo for wxLua. A moon is >>> easy, like the wxwidgets logo ( the blocks ), circulating/orbiting a >>> moon around them. Simular to the lua logo itself, but here around >>> wxWidgest. >>> This expresses the wrapping of lua around wx. >> >> nice idea ! > > The yellow should look like the one in here if i did it right ;-) > http://www.xs4all.nl/~kholwerd/tmp/lualogo/ > > I have it vector, so i can do with it what is needed. I added wxlualogo2.gif to the header; is it okay ? probably if you could rescale it to an height of 50px and replace those white pixels which are around the ring with transparent one, it would look even better ;) >> A problem I'm facing now is that I'd like to setup a synchronization >> script for SF news archive and wxLua website news box (something like >> the one in wxCode website) so that news can be easily added through >> the SF news tracker and they automatically appear also on wxLua >> website... >> >> however SF says that I have not enough permissions to access news >> tracker and to add a new 'news' entry (which I need for testing)... >> could anyone give me news-tracker permissions? > > Maybe i can, i don't know yet, will try :-) it worked; thanks. now news from SF to wxlua website are in synch. I also added the wxLua website maintainance scripts to my SF crontab. Now we mainly need to complete the pages of the site. They are all in CVS (module 'website') and if anyone has time to help writing them, that would be very appreciated... (only files ending with .php and not as .inc.php needs to be modified). Francesco |
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From: klaas.holwerda <kho...@xs...> - 2006-02-19 20:39:04
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Hi Francesco, Or you sure you did check in the images on the website binary? I can not read them somehow, and i see CRLF here and there. Klaas Francesco Montorsi wrote: > Hi, > > klaas.holwerda ha scritto: |
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From: Francesco M. <f18...@ya...> - 2006-02-19 20:58:33
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klaas.holwerda ha scritto: > Hi Francesco, > > Or you sure you did check in the images on the website binary? > I can not read them somehow, and i see CRLF here and there. sorry - I added them as normal files. I've removed and readded them as binary files. Francesco |
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From: klaas.holwerda <kho...@xs...> - 2006-02-19 21:13:43
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Francesco Montorsi wrote: > sorry - I added them as normal files. > I've removed and readded them as binary files. I see that is how one makes gradients ;-) I added a few more here: http://www.xs4all.nl/~kholwerd/tmp/lualogo/ They are not ready ( paint shop pro i used to put the blue rectangle in the front. I resized them in vector format to get samller bitmaps. But can you see if it helps? If it does i finish that one to look proper again. The problem is that here i do not see white pixels. And i do not know how to get the result as on the webpage , which is looking bad :-( Klaas |
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From: Francesco M. <f18...@ya...> - 2006-02-19 21:25:37
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Hi, klaas.holwerda ha scritto: > Francesco Montorsi wrote: > >> sorry - I added them as normal files. >> I've removed and readded them as binary files. > > I see that is how one makes gradients ;-) yes, CSS does not natively support gradients so that trick is required... > I added a few more here: > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~kholwerd/tmp/lualogo/ > > They are not ready ( paint shop pro i used to put the blue rectangle in > the front. > I resized them in vector format to get samller bitmaps. > > But can you see if it helps? wxlua5.gif is the one which looks better: I've committed it to CVS... > > If it does i finish that one to look proper again. IIRC paint shop pro allows you to unsert the 'antialiasing' property in vector objects and that would probably help - even better would be to tell paint shop pro to use black pixels for the antialiasing (since the image must go on a black background) > > The problem is that here i do not see white pixels. > > And i do not know how to get the result as on the webpage , which is > looking bad :-( just put the image (which has a transparent background) to a black background Anyway if you can regen the logo with the blue block above, I can remove the white pixels manually with GIMP :) Francesco |
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From: klaas.holwerda <kho...@xs...> - 2006-02-19 22:33:03
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Francesco Montorsi wrote: >> > I added a few more here: > wxlua5.gif is the one which looks better: I've committed it to CVS... How many times the site is updated? > >> >> If it does i finish that one to look proper again. > > IIRC paint shop pro allows you to unsert the 'antialiasing' property > in vector objects and that would probably help - even better would be > to tell paint shop pro to use black pixels for the antialiasing (since > the image must go on a black background) I did it in illustrator, only the last step in psp. I now put a black rectangle in illustrator. So i commited the blue in front image. > > > Anyway if you can regen the logo with the blue block above, I can > remove the white pixels manually with GIMP :) Having add addware/virus, which i don't succeed to remove, and which irritates me to the bone, i am thinking about reinstalling my notebook, and i might as well use SUSE, although for GIMP one can use windows these days ;-) Klaas |
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From: Francesco M. <f18...@ya...> - 2006-02-19 22:44:08
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Hi, klaas.holwerda ha scritto: > Francesco Montorsi wrote: > >>> >> I added a few more here: >> wxlua5.gif is the one which looks better: I've committed it to CVS... > > How many times the site is updated? once per day >> >>> >>> If it does i finish that one to look proper again. >> >> IIRC paint shop pro allows you to unsert the 'antialiasing' property >> in vector objects and that would probably help - even better would be >> to tell paint shop pro to use black pixels for the antialiasing (since >> the image must go on a black background) > > I did it in illustrator, only the last step in psp. > I now put a black rectangle in illustrator. So i commited the blue in > front image. well, the black rectangle is quite visible in the right border of the image, where the gradient is going toward the yellow... maybe it was better the transparent background... could you try to create a last logo without it (but with blue box over the ring) so that I can try some last touchs ? > >> >> >> Anyway if you can regen the logo with the blue block above, I can >> remove the white pixels manually with GIMP :) > > Having add addware/virus, which i don't succeed to remove, and which > irritates me to the bone, i am thinking about reinstalling my notebook, > and i might as well use SUSE, although for GIMP one can use windows > these days ;-) good luck ;) BTW SuSE was one of the fastest distro I've ever tried but Ubuntu really is my favourite distro now ;) Francesco |
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From: klaas.holwerda <kho...@xs...> - 2006-02-19 23:18:03
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Francesco Montorsi wrote: >> >> I now put a black rectangle in illustrator. So i commited the blue >> in front image. > > well, the black rectangle is quite visible in the right border of the > image, where the gradient is going toward the yellow... > maybe it was better the transparent background... could you try to > create a last logo without it (but with blue box over the ring) so > that I can try some last touchs ? http://www.xs4all.nl/~kholwerd/tmp/lualogo/ 10 11 12 take the one you like best, Here the anitaliased 11 looks fine, but how it wroks out with the backgorund i don;t know, Klaas |
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From: klaas.holwerda <kho...@xs...> - 2006-02-19 23:32:32
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klaas.holwerda wrote: > Francesco Montorsi wrote: > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~kholwerd/tmp/lualogo/ and now number 14 with polygon black background, anitliased transparent :-) Klaas |
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From: Francesco M. <f18...@ya...> - 2006-02-20 10:44:12
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klaas.holwerda ha scritto: > Francesco Montorsi wrote: > >>> >>> I now put a black rectangle in illustrator. So i commited the blue >>> in front image. >> >> well, the black rectangle is quite visible in the right border of the >> image, where the gradient is going toward the yellow... >> maybe it was better the transparent background... could you try to >> create a last logo without it (but with blue box over the ring) so >> that I can try some last touchs ? > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~kholwerd/tmp/lualogo/ > > 10 11 12 take the one you like best, > > Here the anitaliased 11 looks fine, but how it wroks out with the > backgorund i don;t know, I modified one antialiased but with transparent background and updated the CVS and the website; it looks good ! I've also modified the gradient so that the logo is more plunged in the black ;) I'd say that the logo now is good as is; I'd focus now on the real contents of the website :) BTW I'm also working to get wxLua autopackages working... but it's hard specially because 64bit systems like mine are difficult to handle :( Francesco |
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From: klaas.holwerda <kho...@xs...> - 2006-02-19 16:06:15
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Francesco Montorsi wrote: > > however SF says that I have not enough permissions to access news > tracker and to add a new 'news' entry (which I need for testing)... > could anyone give me news-tracker permissions? I made you: admin for tracker manager editor for Project news editor for screenshots If this is not enough, please let me know what should be done, Klaas |
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