From: Jean P. M. <jp....@fr...> - 2012-02-25 09:58:42
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Le 24 févr. 2012 à 14:12, Pascal Robert a écrit : >>> I don't see how we can do that. No one wants them done badly enough to pay for them now, otherwise someone would have a job doing just that. I think most things get added either when a company has a business need and donates the code to Wonder, or Mike gets infected with a desire to try out something. > > Still, in the past we had Apple who paid for WOLips and Wonder contributions (well, because they needed it themselves), but that's no longer the case. So yes, people will continue to contribute to Wonder by contributing stuff they use themselves, but we need maintenance (WOLips working on new versions of Eclipse, fix for Java 7, etc.) and probably a exit strategy by "porting" Wonder to Cayenne and Tapestry. > > Sure, the core WO stuff is solid but it will not benefit from new Java stuff and patching the core than be a daunting task. We discussed this at WOWODC 2011 and in the working group, and I agree that we should move, in the long term, Wonder on top of open source projects. So that means that Wonder should have cover methods so that we don't use directly the core APIs to make it easier to move to a Wonder version sitting on top of Cayenne or something else. Like I said, it's long term, but we need to start doing soon and we will need people and cash to do it. I did not realize that the situation was that bad. Those of us not too close to retirement definitely need an exit strategy from WO. We can do it individually (picking up another existing technology), or collectively. Maybe collectively, the costs would be lower? Perhaps this should be the main thing to be discussed now. Personally, I don't earn a lot of money with programming (mainly teaching, and my teaching obligations do not allow me coming to WOWODC) but I love to have a framework I am used to and that allows me to do what I want rather quickly (WO + Wonder). I could donate a couple of thousand dollars to fund a "leader" driving the transition to an open source solution. Companies which are more involved into WO could probably donate much more. Maybe we could collectively elaborate a scenario (best strategy for an open source move), then see how much money and time we could gather to make it happen. JPM |