[Webreports-developers] Re: Webreports technical implementation subgroup

[Jakob T. <ja...@ds...>]

Actually I think that a WISYWIG editor could have the same effects as a 
script-like editing, i.e. spending too much time on the actual editing (how 
to  make their reports look nice) rather than supporting the kids in 
thinking about the content of what they are reporting. What I believe the 
kids will need is some kind of structured support (in the form of dialogues 
or templates) for creating their reports and  we really should draw on the 
quite extensive CSCL research from CSILE/Knowledge Forum people on this 
kind of scaffolding.

Of course this is primarily an issue for the "design group" but I will 
definitely not be able to stay out of the discussion ;-)

Regards

Jakob


At 15:48 2003-09-17 +0100, you wrote:
>What R & C wanted was a WYSIWYG editor, which could be overlaid on top of 
>the Wiki.  I think it was agreed that anything other than developing on 
>top of JSPWiki would be too resource demanding.  You'd have to build all 
>the engines from scratch, which are 10 times more complicated than the 
>interface.
>
>Can you get Jesper to contact me directly, and tell me what his impression 
>of the project is?
>
>You need to register with SF, then send me your username so I can add you 
>as a project member.  I suppose Jesper should do the same if he decides to 
>take the job.
>
>Jakob Tholander wrote:
>
>>Sound like a reasonable plan. We will just need to give Jesper (with two 
>>e:s) a couple of days to to get some insights into the projects and then 
>>really commit himself if this is what he wants to do.
>>
>>In our discussion we should also stay open for any other solutions which 
>>are non-Wiki since as I understood Richard and Celia that is what they 
>>would prefer if possible. However, we need to come up with the 
>>implementation plan quite quickly. I don't know if you got the e-mail 
>>that Calle sent to Richard regarding this, but I will forward it to you 
>>anyways.
>>
>>Do I need to register with the sourceforge project or am I already 
>>through the e-mail I got?
>>
>>/jakob
>>
>>At 12:26 2003-09-17 +0100, you wrote:
>>
>>>True.
>>>
>>>As you've seen, I've created a wiki page and a mailing list for this 
>>>discussion.
>>>The wiki page also links to the sourceforge workspace.
>>>
>>>To get started, I think you and Jasper should register as members on the 
>>>sourceforge project, and Jasper should register for the mailing lists.
>>>
>>>I think the next step would be to set up a webreports server in 
>>>Stockholm. Doing that would give you / Jasper a good idea of how the 
>>>system is structured. Then, we can define an introductory programming 
>>>task, as an educational experience. After Jasper has done a bit of work 
>>>on that task I think he would probably want to come here for a couple of weeks.
>>>
>>>what do you think?
>>>
>>>Jakob Tholander wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>This is just to inform you that we have started discussions with Jesper 
>>>>here regarding getting him involved in the webreports implementation. 
>>>>But in parallell we should get the discussion started around technical 
>>>>implementation issues and get Jesper involved in this when and if he 
>>>>has agreed to join us
>>>>
>>>>/jakob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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