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[WebMacro-user] WM.org down? - somebody pls remind me about recursion

[Marc P. <ma...@an...>]

Hi guys,

I can't reach webmacro.org here - it's resolving but timing out. Eric?

Anyway, can somebody give me a bit of clarity on WM recursion - I've
forgotten the details.

Basically I am recursively including a template to render a tree. However
the included template is of course trashing the variables in the "outer"
context.

Is the solution to this to use #eval or #templet? Something that is part
of WM core is preferred - whereby I can pass in certain values but the
included template fragment gets its own Context.

I'm using my WM JSP taglib code and it's working well "in anger" here
(literally - the JSP pissed me off so much and caused so much ugliness to
do this recursive rendering, so now we have a JSP/WM hybrid).

I can "push" the sensitive variables to temp vars before the include and
"pop" them off after but that is ugly indeed.

Cheers

AW: [WebMacro-user] Eclipse Plugin

[Dominik <do...@db...>]

Hy,
yes I would, but the source is not available, so it might be difficult.
Perhaps ill contact the author, because it=92s a sourceforge-project ans =
so
has to be opensource.
=3D=3D
Greetings
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Hi Dominik:

Would you consider modifying the velocity plug-in for WM?

-lane

Dominik wrote:

>Hy,
>is there a Eclipse Plugin for editing wm files? Im using a pulgin wich
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Re: [WebMacro-user] Bug(?)

[Lane S. <la...@op...>]

Hi Keats,

Excellent!

-Lane

Keats Kirsch wrote:

> The fix has been committed along with a unit test.
>
> Keats
>
> Keats Kirsch wrote:
>
>> This turned out to be a trivial fix to the FunctionVariable class.  
>> I'll create a unit test and commit the fix this weekend.  I guess I 
>> never expected folks to use functions this way, but there's no reason 
>> not to allow it.
>>
>> Keats
>>
>> Keats Kirsch wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for reporting this bug. I was able to reproduce this behavior 
>>> using:
>>>
>>>    $HTMLEscape("My string").substring(0, 2)
>>>
>>> The result was "My string" instead of "My".  The substring just got 
>>> ignored.  Very strange.
>>> I will investigate.
>>>
>>> Keats
>>>
>>> Nikhil G. Daddikar wrote:
>>>
>>>> In WM 2.0 (release May 14 2005), if I do this:
>>>>
>>>> #set $tasks = $PMUtils().getTasks()
>>>>
>>>> then $tasks is set to the object that PMUtils() returns and not to 
>>>> the list of tasks
>>>>
>>>> I think this is a bug, can some one confirm this?
>>>
>>>
>
>
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Re: [WebMacro-user] Webmacro release

[Lane S. <la...@op...>]

Hi Nikihil:

I am a bit behind in getting the 2.0 release out. the release notes are 
both in the distro and on source forge.

-Lane

Nikhil G. Daddikar wrote:

>
> Pardon me for asking again but can anyone tell me when 2.0 is due? I 
> thought there was a date of 15 July 2005.
>
> Also, is there is place where I can find release notes? The wiki site 
> is quite outdated.
>
> -Nikhil
>
>
>
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Re: [WebMacro-user] Eclipse Plugin

[Lane S. <la...@op...>]

Hi Dominik:

Would you consider modifying the velocity plug-in for WM?

-lane

Dominik wrote:

>Hy,
>is there a Eclipse Plugin for editing wm files? Im using a pulgin wich
>parses velocity code, I get a code highlighting at least but as the code of
>wm and velocity isn't compatible it produces some errors.
>==
>Greetings
>Dominik 
>mailto:do...@db...
>
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[WebMacro-user] Eclipse Plugin

[Dominik <do...@db...>]

Hy,
is there a Eclipse Plugin for editing wm files? Im using a pulgin wich
parses velocity code, I get a code highlighting at least but as the code of
wm and velocity isn't compatible it produces some errors.
==
Greetings
Dominik 
mailto:do...@db...

[WebMacro-user] Webmacro release

[Nikhil G. D. <ng...@ce...>]

Pardon me for asking again but can anyone tell me when 2.0 is due? I 
thought there was a date of 15 July 2005.

Also, is there is place where I can find release notes? The wiki site is 
quite outdated.

-Nikhil

Re: [WebMacro-user] Bug(?)

[Nikhil G. D. <ng...@ce...>]

Thanks.

Keats Kirsch wrote:

> The fix has been committed along with a unit test.
>
> Keats
>
> Keats Kirsch wrote:
>
>> This turned out to be a trivial fix to the FunctionVariable class.  
>> I'll create a unit test and commit the fix this weekend.  I guess I 
>> never expected folks to use functions this way, but there's no reason 
>> not to allow it.
>>
>> Keats
>>
>> Keats Kirsch wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for reporting this bug. I was able to reproduce this behavior 
>>> using:
>>>
>>>    $HTMLEscape("My string").substring(0, 2)
>>>
>>> The result was "My string" instead of "My".  The substring just got 
>>> ignored.  Very strange.
>>> I will investigate.
>>>
>>> Keats
>>>
>>> Nikhil G. Daddikar wrote:
>>>
>>>> In WM 2.0 (release May 14 2005), if I do this:
>>>>
>>>> #set $tasks = $PMUtils().getTasks()
>>>>
>>>> then $tasks is set to the object that PMUtils() returns and not to 
>>>> the list of tasks
>>>>
>>>> I think this is a bug, can some one confirm this?
>>>
>>>
>
>
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Re: [WebMacro-user] Bug(?)

[Keats K. <ke...@xa...>]

The fix has been committed along with a unit test.

Keats

Keats Kirsch wrote:

> This turned out to be a trivial fix to the FunctionVariable class.  
> I'll create a unit test and commit the fix this weekend.  I guess I 
> never expected folks to use functions this way, but there's no reason 
> not to allow it.
>
> Keats
>
> Keats Kirsch wrote:
>
>> Thanks for reporting this bug. I was able to reproduce this behavior 
>> using:
>>
>>    $HTMLEscape("My string").substring(0, 2)
>>
>> The result was "My string" instead of "My".  The substring just got 
>> ignored.  Very strange.
>> I will investigate.
>>
>> Keats
>>
>> Nikhil G. Daddikar wrote:
>>
>>> In WM 2.0 (release May 14 2005), if I do this:
>>>
>>> #set $tasks = $PMUtils().getTasks()
>>>
>>> then $tasks is set to the object that PMUtils() returns and not to 
>>> the list of tasks
>>>
>>> I think this is a bug, can some one confirm this?
>>

Re: [WebMacro-user] Bug(?)

[Marc P. <ma...@an...>]

Nikhil G. Daddikar wrote:
> Is there is a better way to get access to singletons? I access 
> singletons as $Singleton() which is mapped to the getInstance static 
> method. What I don't want to do is write context tools for each of these 
> or put("singleton", Singleton.getInstance()) in the context.

I strongly suggest, if you can, that you move away from singletons as 
they are a problem for refactoring and later changes to code - except in 
rare cases.

Look at Spring IoC if you haven't... you could use a Spring bean context 
to gather all your system components (even singletons) into a single 
bean context, and just put that bean context into the WM context - no 
100% pretty yet, but this has made me think that a ContextTool for 
exposing a Spring BeanContext would be an -excellent- addition to WM.

So, I will do it along with the new Spring MVC code and JSP taglib commits.

Shall we push 2.0 out now Lane? Keats' function fix can go in 2.1 along 
with the JSP and Spring bits.

Cheers
(BTW Lane - Am using WordPress - yes PHP driven - for small customer 
websites now)

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Re: [WebMacro-user] TemplateLocation

[Marc P. <ma...@an...>]

Keats Kirsch wrote:
> Good question.  I wish I had an answer.  Are folks using the 
> DelegatingTemplateProvider?  I sure seems like a big improvement to me.

Yep, I am almost exclusively. I see no downside to it, only benefits.


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Re: [WebMacro-user] Bug(?)

[Nikhil G. D. <ng...@ce...>]

Is there is a better way to get access to singletons? I access 
singletons as $Singleton() which is mapped to the getInstance static 
method. What I don't want to do is write context tools for each of these 
or put("singleton", Singleton.getInstance()) in the context.

Thanks.

Keats Kirsch wrote:

> This turned out to be a trivial fix to the FunctionVariable class.  
> I'll create a unit test and commit the fix this weekend.  I guess I 
> never expected folks to use functions this way, but there's no reason 
> not to allow it.
>
> Keats
>
> Keats Kirsch wrote:
>
>> Thanks for reporting this bug. I was able to reproduce this behavior 
>> using:
>>
>>    $HTMLEscape("My string").substring(0, 2)
>>
>> The result was "My string" instead of "My".  The substring just got 
>> ignored.  Very strange.
>> I will investigate.
>>
>> Keats
>>
>> Nikhil G. Daddikar wrote:
>>
>>> In WM 2.0 (release May 14 2005), if I do this:
>>>
>>> #set $tasks = $PMUtils().getTasks()
>>>
>>> then $tasks is set to the object that PMUtils() returns and not to 
>>> the list of tasks
>>>
>>> I think this is a bug, can some one confirm this?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Re: [WebMacro-user] Bug(?)

[Keats K. <ke...@xa...>]

This turned out to be a trivial fix to the FunctionVariable class.  I'll 
create a unit test and commit the fix this weekend.  I guess I never 
expected folks to use functions this way, but there's no reason not to 
allow it.

Keats

Keats Kirsch wrote:

> Thanks for reporting this bug. I was able to reproduce this behavior 
> using:
>
>    $HTMLEscape("My string").substring(0, 2)
>
> The result was "My string" instead of "My".  The substring just got 
> ignored.  Very strange.
> I will investigate.
>
> Keats
>
> Nikhil G. Daddikar wrote:
>
>> In WM 2.0 (release May 14 2005), if I do this:
>>
>> #set $tasks = $PMUtils().getTasks()
>>
>> then $tasks is set to the object that PMUtils() returns and not to 
>> the list of tasks
>>
>> I think this is a bug, can some one confirm this?
>
>
>
>

Re: [WebMacro-user] TemplateLocation

[Keats K. <ke...@xa...>]

Lars George wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Quick question, this page http://webmacro.org/TemplateProvider says 
> you can use
>
> "if you set
>
>  Servlet22Broker.TemplateLocation
>
> to a value in your WebMacro.properties it will look in this directory 
> in your web-app instead of step 1."
>
> I check the source and cannot find TemplateLocation being used 
> anywhere. I assume this is replaced by the delegating template 
> provider and its TemplateLoaderPath mechanism. Is that correct? Could 
> someone update the docs then please?

Actually it still is in the Servlet22Broker.init() method.  
(http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/webmacro/webmacro/src/org/webmacro/servlet/Servlet22Broker.java?rev=1.13&view=markup)

> Will the delegating template provider be promoted to default provider 
> sometime?

Good question.  I wish I had an answer.  Are folks using the 
DelegatingTemplateProvider?  I sure seems like a big improvement to me.

Keats

> Thanks,
> Lars
>
>

Re: [WebMacro-user] TemplateLocation

[Lars G. <la...@wo...>]

Sorry, stupid me trusting Windows file search function. A proper grep 
found the code lines I was looking for. Please disregard my post.

Lars George wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Quick question, this page http://webmacro.org/TemplateProvider says you 
> can use
> 
> "if you set
> 
>  Servlet22Broker.TemplateLocation
> 
> to a value in your WebMacro.properties it will look in this directory in 
> your web-app instead of step 1."
> 
> I check the source and cannot find TemplateLocation being used anywhere. 
> I assume this is replaced by the delegating template provider and its 
> TemplateLoaderPath mechanism. Is that correct? Could someone update the 
> docs then please?
> 
> Will the delegating template provider be promoted to default provider 
> sometime?
> 
> Thanks,
> Lars
> 
> 
> 
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[WebMacro-user] TemplateLocation

[Lars G. <la...@wo...>]

Hi,

Quick question, this page http://webmacro.org/TemplateProvider says you 
can use

"if you set

  Servlet22Broker.TemplateLocation

to a value in your WebMacro.properties it will look in this directory in 
your web-app instead of step 1."

I check the source and cannot find TemplateLocation being used anywhere. 
I assume this is replaced by the delegating template provider and its 
TemplateLoaderPath mechanism. Is that correct? Could someone update the 
docs then please?

Will the delegating template provider be promoted to default provider 
sometime?

Thanks,
Lars

Re: [WebMacro-user] Macro bug

[Keats K. <ke...@xa...>]

I have verified this bug as well.  It also happens if you use "begin" as
the start of your macro name.  Unfortunately we don't really have a
maintainer for the parser these days, so we may have to keep this as a
"known bug" unless someone can step up to the plate on this.

Keats

Nikhil G. Daddikar wrote:

>
> Macros with names starting with end e.g. end_table are not 
> interpreted. This is a bug. Can someone please fix it. For example, 
> if  "xend" is replaced with "end" below it won't work.
>
> #macro xend_x($x)
> {
>      end $x
> }
>
> #xend_x("hi")
>
> Thanks.

Re: [WebMacro-user] Bug(?)

[Keats K. <ke...@xa...>]

Thanks for reporting this bug. I was able to reproduce this behavior using:

    $HTMLEscape("My string").substring(0, 2)

The result was "My string" instead of "My".  The substring just got 
ignored.  Very strange. 

I will investigate.

Keats

Nikhil G. Daddikar wrote:

> In WM 2.0 (release May 14 2005), if I do this:
>
> #set $tasks = $PMUtils().getTasks()
>
> then $tasks is set to the object that PMUtils() returns and not to the 
> list of tasks
>
> I think this is a bug, can some one confirm this?

[WebMacro-user] Macro bug

[Nikhil G. D. <ng...@ce...>]

Macros with names starting with end e.g. end_table are not interpreted. 
This is a bug. Can someone please fix it. For example, if  "xend" is 
replaced with "end" below it won't work.

#macro xend_x($x)
{
     end $x
}

#xend_x("hi")

Thanks.

Re: [WebMacro-user] Bug(?)

[Nikhil G. D. <ng...@ce...>]

I have PMUtils as a function. Sorry I didn't mention that.

Marc Palmer wrote:

>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Nikhil G. Daddikar" <ng...@ce...>
>To: web...@li...
>Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:15:21 +0530
>Subject: [WebMacro-user] Bug(?)
>
>  
>
>>In WM 2.0 (release May 14 2005), if I do this:
>>
>>#set $tasks = $PMUtils().getTasks()
>>
>>then $tasks is set to the object that PMUtils() returns and not to the 
>>list of tasks
>>
>>I think this is a bug, can some one confirm this?
>>    
>>
>
>Nope. You don't use parentheses on properties. Your correct sytnax should be:
>
>#set $tasks = $PMUtils.Tasks
>
>Isn't that much nicer :)
>
>Cheers
>
>
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Re: [WebMacro-user] Bug(?)

[Marc P. <ma...@an...>]

-----Original Message-----
From: "Nikhil G. Daddikar" <ng...@ce...>
To: web...@li...
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:15:21 +0530
Subject: [WebMacro-user] Bug(?)

> In WM 2.0 (release May 14 2005), if I do this:
> 
> #set $tasks = $PMUtils().getTasks()
> 
> then $tasks is set to the object that PMUtils() returns and not to the 
> list of tasks
> 
> I think this is a bug, can some one confirm this?

Nope. You don't use parentheses on properties. Your correct sytnax should be:

#set $tasks = $PMUtils.Tasks

Isn't that much nicer :)

Cheers

[WebMacro-user] Bug(?)

[Nikhil G. D. <ng...@ce...>]

In WM 2.0 (release May 14 2005), if I do this:

#set $tasks = $PMUtils().getTasks()

then $tasks is set to the object that PMUtils() returns and not to the 
list of tasks

I think this is a bug, can some one confirm this?

Re: [WebMacro-user] Comparison to Velocity

[Marc P. <ma...@an...>]

Dominik wrote:
> Hy,
> How is WM compared to Velocity? Where are advantages or disadvantages?

I'm a WM die-hard... but my independent assessment would be:

1. Velocity has a much bigger and active user base, and hence more tools 
and add-ons exist for it already. However Velocity tools that are 
effectively Java beans should work fine in WebMacro too.

2. WebMacro has much nicer syntax and pluggable directives (i.e. 
#yourDirective)

3. My gut says WebMacro -may- perform better, but I've not seen any 
comparisons - now that would be interesting to port Lane's WM 
performance unit tests to use Velocity :)

4. WebMacro is slightly held back by its Broker mechanism which makes it 
slightly more difficult to integrate/embed in other applications - but 
this is not a big deal for normal usage.

5. WebMacro is the original :)

I blogged a bit about this the other day:

http://www.jroller.com/page/wangjammer5/Weblog

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[WebMacro-user] Comparison to Velocity

[Dominik <do...@db...>]

Hy,
How is WM compared to Velocity? Where are advantages or disadvantages?

Thanks and Greetings
Dominik 
mailto:do...@db...

Re: [WebMacro-user] Performance of WM

[Tim P. <ti...@pa...>]

On Monday 18 July 2005 21:48, Tim Pizey wrote:
>
> One of the really cool features of Melati is the ability to add tables and
> columns on the fly, in front of the customer if need be, and for very clean
> WM code to magically adjust to the change.
> http://melati.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/melati/src/main/org/melati/
>admin/Edit.wm
>
So much so that I have just had to reset the database at 
http://www.melati.org/melati/org.melati.admin.Admin/contacts/Main
as the meta data tables had been configured to be unedittable, even by the 
Admin user. 

cheers
Tim