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From: Adam R. B. J. <aj...@tr...> - 2003-10-17 19:54:56
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> Who registered us with Gump, any why? I guess I assumed that you guys did, but maybe it was somebody who depended on your code and wanted to be Gumped on your latest versions. http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-gump/project/webmacro.xml Shows: Thu Mar 28 03:25:13 2002 UTC (18 months, 3 weeks ago) by jvanzyl regards, Adam |
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From: Eric B. R. <eb...@tc...> - 2003-10-17 19:26:36
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On Oct 17, 2003, at 12:43 PM, Adam R. B. Jack wrote: > Hi all. > > I see you do not have an e-mail registered w/ Gump in order to get > failure > notifications. Who registered us with Gump, any why? eric > Would you mind if I registered this address [above] for you? > Typically a from for such e-mails is a person on the mailing list who > develops the product. Any volunteers? > > http://gump.dotnot.org/webmacro/webmacro.html > http://gump.dotnot.org/webmacro/build/build_webmacro_webmacro.html > > BUILD FAILED > /var/gump/webmacro/build.xml:129: Warning: Could not find file > /var/gump/webmacro/webmacro.defaults.classic to copy. > > regards, > > Adam > -- > Experience Sybase Technology... > http://www.try.sybase.com > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email sponsored by: Enterprise Linux Forum Conference & > Expo > The Event For Linux Datacenter Solutions & Strategies in The Enterprise > Linux in the Boardroom; in the Front Office; & in the Server Room > http://www.enterpriselinuxforum.com > _______________________________________________ > Webmacro-devel mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webmacro-devel |
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From: Adam R. B. J. <aj...@tr...> - 2003-10-17 19:13:21
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Hi all. I see you do not have an e-mail registered w/ Gump in order to get failure notifications. Would you mind if I registered this address [above] for you? Typically a from for such e-mails is a person on the mailing list who develops the product. Any volunteers? http://gump.dotnot.org/webmacro/webmacro.html http://gump.dotnot.org/webmacro/build/build_webmacro_webmacro.html BUILD FAILED /var/gump/webmacro/build.xml:129: Warning: Could not find file /var/gump/webmacro/webmacro.defaults.classic to copy. regards, Adam -- Experience Sybase Technology... http://www.try.sybase.com |
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From: Marc P. <ma...@an...> - 2003-10-06 23:23:13
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On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 08:02:52 -0700, Lane Sharman <la...@op...>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> What's next?
>
> What do you want to do with WM? Status quo? Release 2? Knock off some
> wish list items? What?
I'm too busy to contribute at the moment as some of you may have
guessed... change of scene writing games in J2ME MIDP CLDC for mobile
phones.
However I'm still using WM extensively:
1. We are using WM as a Java preprocessor of sorts to do conditional
compilation on our MIDP source so that debug code is always removed from
final builds etc.
2. We are using WM + our XMLHelper to process XML files containing game
engine data, to produce a Java source file containing constants and also a
binary file (using a custom binary output helper) that is loaded by the
game engine.
3. We are using WM + another custom helper to combine many binary files
into one, generating XML that contains data relating to these binary files.
4. The other night I wrote what must be the most trivial "blog" style
content management system in under an hour, producing both WAP content
from it and also using JavaScript in a nice way to allow embedding of news
feeds in any HTML page without any server side scripting - the feeds are
hosted by my Ignition webapp and any site can embed them in their HTML
with custom styling, with just 2 lines of code. It's all just a quick and
dirty hack but works very, very well.
Just a success story or two to pass on....
Yes, Ignition WILL be released at some point, hopefully soon.
Marc
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Contract Java Consultant/Developer
w a n g j a m m e r s
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From: Lane S. <la...@op...> - 2003-09-19 20:26:42
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Hi, What's next? What do you want to do with WM? Status quo? Release 2? Knock off some wish list items? What? your WM concience, -- Lane Sharman Just Do IT, Better. 858-755-2868 |
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From: Lane S. <la...@op...> - 2003-09-12 16:43:05
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Greetings, WebMacro can regain some of its luster, imho, by being the first alternative to JSP to support Java Server Faces. JSF is a complete rewrite of Struts (Craig McClanahan) and provides an end-to-end bridge of the stateless http model to the stateful application model using a combination of xml declarations and supporting classes. Most imporantly, it is renderer independent. That said a rendering engine requires a set of binding classes so that messages for the rendering engine are caught and translated for the specific rendering engine. I attended my second presentation on JSF last night. The speaker developed the app in real time. Completely sharp about the whole MVC/validation/update/event support in JSF. He convinced me that JSF is absolutely essential for WebMacro's future. Marc has worked valiantly to bring a Ignition as a Web app framework to WebMacro. Many of his ideas are incorporated in JSF. Some parts of his framework can augment as helpers in JSF. If he chooses to continue on with Ignition, I will of course support him in that endeavor. I have used ignition to build a complete site and it has a lot of great ideas. In short, I would like to make this the JSF compatibility the last big project before Release 2.0. The advent of JSF as a standard action processing, event model for web apps makes for the perfect, standards-based approach we all have been looking for to validate WM in a Web app setting. Lastly, I implore you to keep this development secret. I know that Apache will do something but I am not sure that Velocity with its ties to Turbine is about to tackle another project. But with all their free time over in Apache land, one never knows. I did a net scan and see no initiative for creating a JSF binding to Velo. And, yes, I hear the chorus already. Go for it, Lane :). C'mon guys. WM is our adopted baby. Let's bring her to another major birthday party. WM rocks. And, it will really rock with a JSF binding. Kindest regards, -- Lane Sharman Just Do IT, Better. 858-755-2868 ps: marc, let's talk offline about Ignition versus JSF |
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From: <web...@st...> - 2003-08-18 08:15:30
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003, Keats wrote: | Mostly out of curiosity, I implemented a TagLib for WM Script. It turned | out to be quite simple. It's just a proof-of-concept at this point but I'll | polish it up a bit. | | You just put the WM Script inside a wm:template tag. I expose the JSP | PageContext as $Jsp. This is probably dangerous but it was a easy way to | get access to all the JSP stuff. Ultimately I'd like to try and use other | taglibs from within the WM Script. This looks extremely promising! Cool! Endre. |
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From: Lane S. <la...@op...> - 2003-08-15 18:13:20
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cool. I suppose I should understand how JSP works one of these days :). Lane Keats wrote: >Mostly out of curiosity, I implemented a TagLib for WM Script. It turned >out to be quite simple. It's just a proof-of-concept at this point but I'll >polish it up a bit. > >You just put the WM Script inside a wm:template tag. I expose the JSP >PageContext as $Jsp. This is probably dangerous but it was a easy way to >get access to all the JSP stuff. Ultimately I'd like to try and use other >taglibs from within the WM Script. > >Here's a sample JSP: >======================================================= ><%@ page session="true" buffer="none" %> ><%@ taglib uri="/WEB-INF/wmtaglib.tld" prefix="wm" %> ><html> > <head> > <title>wm:template test</title> > </head> > <body> > <center>wm:template test</center> > <br> > <center>Time now: <%= new java.util.Date() %></center> > <wm:template> > <h3>Testing the WebMacro Template TagLib!</h3> > #set $User="Keats" > <p>Hello, $User</p> > <p>JSP page Servlet class is $Jsp.Page.Class.Name<br> > <p>JSP page ServletContext is $Jsp.Page.ServletContext<br> > <p><b>JSP Page attributes</b></p> > <ul> > #foreach $attrib in >$Jsp.getAttributeNamesInScope($Jsp.PAGE_SCOPE) > <li>$attrib</li> > #end > </ul> > <p><b>JSP Request attributes</b></p> > <ul> > #foreach $attrib in >$Jsp.getAttributeNamesInScope($Jsp.REQUEST_SCOPE) > <li>$attrib</li> > #end > </ul> > <p><b>JSP Session attributes</b></p> > <ul> > #foreach $attrib in >$Jsp.getAttributeNamesInScope($Jsp.SESSION_SCOPE) > <li>$attrib</li> > #end > </ul> > <p><b>JSP Application attributes</b></p> > <ul> > #foreach $attrib in >$Jsp.getAttributeNamesInScope($Jsp.APPLICATION_SCOPE) > <li>$attrib</li> > #end > </ul> > </wm:template> > </body> ></html> > >======================================================= > >Keats > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Harmeet Bedi" <ha...@ko...> >To: <ma...@an...>; <web...@li...> >Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 9:54 PM >Subject: Re: [Webmacro-devel] JSP + WM together - interesting! > > > > >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Marc Palmer" <ma...@an...> >> >> >>>>http://www.webmacro.org/UsingWebMacroWithJsp >>>> >>>> >>>The example you give... doesn't it require a WMServlet to make it work? >>> >>> >>Sure, it does require webmacro templates to be exposed as servlet with >> >> >it's > > >>own URI. >> >> >> >>>I was thinking of a "pure JSP" solution where a JSP page is used to >>> >>> >create > > >>>an instance of WM and render templates, and this JSP is "called" from >>> >>> >>other >> >> >>>JSPs. >>> >>> >>I was trying to keep it separate at page level, but combined at runtime. >>Would be good to add to Wiki the JSP/WM hybrid page ideas too. >> >>Harmeet >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------- >>This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including >>Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. >>Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. >> >> >> >http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > > >>_______________________________________________ >>Webmacro-devel mailing list >>Web...@li... >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webmacro-devel >> >> > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including >Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. >Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. >http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 >_______________________________________________ >Webmacro-devel mailing list >Web...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webmacro-devel > > > -- Lane Sharman Learn About Conga, All Java GUI Builder: http://opendoors.com/conga |
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From: Keats <ke...@ea...> - 2003-08-15 17:14:54
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Mostly out of curiosity, I implemented a TagLib for WM Script. It turned
out to be quite simple. It's just a proof-of-concept at this point but I'll
polish it up a bit.
You just put the WM Script inside a wm:template tag. I expose the JSP
PageContext as $Jsp. This is probably dangerous but it was a easy way to
get access to all the JSP stuff. Ultimately I'd like to try and use other
taglibs from within the WM Script.
Here's a sample JSP:
=======================================================
<%@ page session="true" buffer="none" %>
<%@ taglib uri="/WEB-INF/wmtaglib.tld" prefix="wm" %>
<html>
<head>
<title>wm:template test</title>
</head>
<body>
<center>wm:template test</center>
<br>
<center>Time now: <%= new java.util.Date() %></center>
<wm:template>
<h3>Testing the WebMacro Template TagLib!</h3>
#set $User="Keats"
<p>Hello, $User</p>
<p>JSP page Servlet class is $Jsp.Page.Class.Name<br>
<p>JSP page ServletContext is $Jsp.Page.ServletContext<br>
<p><b>JSP Page attributes</b></p>
<ul>
#foreach $attrib in
$Jsp.getAttributeNamesInScope($Jsp.PAGE_SCOPE)
<li>$attrib</li>
#end
</ul>
<p><b>JSP Request attributes</b></p>
<ul>
#foreach $attrib in
$Jsp.getAttributeNamesInScope($Jsp.REQUEST_SCOPE)
<li>$attrib</li>
#end
</ul>
<p><b>JSP Session attributes</b></p>
<ul>
#foreach $attrib in
$Jsp.getAttributeNamesInScope($Jsp.SESSION_SCOPE)
<li>$attrib</li>
#end
</ul>
<p><b>JSP Application attributes</b></p>
<ul>
#foreach $attrib in
$Jsp.getAttributeNamesInScope($Jsp.APPLICATION_SCOPE)
<li>$attrib</li>
#end
</ul>
</wm:template>
</body>
</html>
=======================================================
Keats
----- Original Message -----
From: "Harmeet Bedi" <ha...@ko...>
To: <ma...@an...>; <web...@li...>
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Webmacro-devel] JSP + WM together - interesting!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marc Palmer" <ma...@an...>
> >
> > > http://www.webmacro.org/UsingWebMacroWithJsp
> >
> > The example you give... doesn't it require a WMServlet to make it work?
>
> Sure, it does require webmacro templates to be exposed as servlet with
it's
> own URI.
>
> >
> > I was thinking of a "pure JSP" solution where a JSP page is used to
create
> > an instance of WM and render templates, and this JSP is "called" from
> other
> > JSPs.
>
> I was trying to keep it separate at page level, but combined at runtime.
> Would be good to add to Wiki the JSP/WM hybrid page ideas too.
>
> Harmeet
>
>
>
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From: Lane S. <la...@op...> - 2003-08-15 16:55:45
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webmacro.default.minimal you will use the buid with -Dwm-style=minimal to call in the above property file. This has been unit-tested to work without context tools. There is no side effects, Marc, in other words with running without CT in the code base. Lane Marc Palmer wrote: > On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 10:24:17 -0700, Lane Sharman <la...@op...> > wrote: > >> Did you do some work on the actual docs in the source? > > > No - I was going to but I noticed that they were already better than > what was on wm.org > > However I have decided that Ignition will disable all ContextTool(s) > using the new mechanisms for this, using only Ignition's helper > mechanisms and perhaps some custom internal (context aware) helpers. > > This is because the ContextTool mechanism is inherently difficult to > provide runtime documentation for, given that the classes are often > just factory/proxy methods to existing Servlet API classes (for > example) that do not have BeanInfo implementations. > > Marc > -- Lane Sharman Learn About Conga, All Java GUI Builder: http://opendoors.com/conga |
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From: Marc P. <ma...@an...> - 2003-08-14 21:11:35
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 10:24:17 -0700, Lane Sharman <la...@op...> wrote: > Did you do some work on the actual docs in the source? No - I was going to but I noticed that they were already better than what was on wm.org However I have decided that Ignition will disable all ContextTool(s) using the new mechanisms for this, using only Ignition's helper mechanisms and perhaps some custom internal (context aware) helpers. This is because the ContextTool mechanism is inherently difficult to provide runtime documentation for, given that the classes are often just factory/proxy methods to existing Servlet API classes (for example) that do not have BeanInfo implementations. Marc -- Marc Palmer Contract Java Consultant/Developer w a n g j a m m e r s java and web software design experts with an ethical outlook http://www.wangjammers.org |
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From: Lane S. <la...@op...> - 2003-08-14 17:28:15
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Did you do some work on the actual docs in the source? -Lane Marc Palmer wrote: > On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 09:21:31 -0700, Lane Sharman <la...@op...> > wrote: > >> No. >> >> This can be fixed by anyone with an interest in improving the >> comments in the source. > > > Lane - you have misunderstood - the WEB SITE javadocs are out of date > with the latest javadocs in the source. > > Marc > -- Lane Sharman Learn About Conga, All Java GUI Builder: http://opendoors.com/conga |
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From: Lane S. <la...@op...> - 2003-08-14 17:07:00
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right-o. Marc Palmer wrote: > On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 09:21:31 -0700, Lane Sharman <la...@op...> > wrote: > >> No. >> >> This can be fixed by anyone with an interest in improving the >> comments in the source. > > > Lane - you have misunderstood - the WEB SITE javadocs are out of date > with the latest javadocs in the source. > > Marc > -- Lane Sharman Learn About Conga, All Java GUI Builder: http://opendoors.com/conga |
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From: Eric B. R. <eb...@tc...> - 2003-08-14 17:00:23
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On Thursday, August 14, 2003, at 07:40 AM, Marc Palmer wrote: > > Guys, > > The javadocs for things like SessionTool in the WM site are completely > out of date with the source. > > How do we fix this? Wait for Eric? Yes, wait on me. I was thinking that we could start hosting static stuff like this, Press Releases, and other things on our SourceForge webspace so that any of us could take care of it. Basically just leaving www.webmacro.org around for Wiki. eric > > http://www.webmacro.org/api/org/webmacro/servlet/SessionTool.html > > "Provide Template with access to form data. " > > The source: > > * <p>Provide Template with access to the HttpSession associated > * with the current request.</p> > > -- > Marc Palmer > Contract Java Consultant/Developer > > w a n g j a m m e r s > > java and web software design > experts with an ethical outlook > > http://www.wangjammers.org > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/ > direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Webmacro-devel mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webmacro-devel |
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From: Marc P. <ma...@an...> - 2003-08-14 16:32:11
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 09:21:31 -0700, Lane Sharman <la...@op...>
wrote:
> No.
>
> This can be fixed by anyone with an interest in improving the comments in
> the source.
Lane - you have misunderstood - the WEB SITE javadocs are out of date with
the latest javadocs in the source.
Marc
--
Marc Palmer
Contract Java Consultant/Developer
w a n g j a m m e r s
java and web software design
experts with an ethical outlook
http://www.wangjammers.org
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From: Lane S. <la...@op...> - 2003-08-14 16:30:27
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No. This can be fixed by anyone with an interest in improving the comments in the source. -Lane Marc Palmer wrote: > > Guys, > > The javadocs for things like SessionTool in the WM site are completely > out of date with the source. > > How do we fix this? Wait for Eric? > > http://www.webmacro.org/api/org/webmacro/servlet/SessionTool.html > > "Provide Template with access to form data. " > > The source: > > * <p>Provide Template with access to the HttpSession associated > * with the current request.</p> > -- Lane Sharman Learn About Conga, All Java GUI Builder: http://opendoors.com/conga |
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From: Marc P. <ma...@an...> - 2003-08-14 11:47:03
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Guys, The javadocs for things like SessionTool in the WM site are completely out of date with the source. How do we fix this? Wait for Eric? http://www.webmacro.org/api/org/webmacro/servlet/SessionTool.html "Provide Template with access to form data. " The source: * <p>Provide Template with access to the HttpSession associated * with the current request.</p> -- Marc Palmer Contract Java Consultant/Developer w a n g j a m m e r s java and web software design experts with an ethical outlook http://www.wangjammers.org |
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From: Harmeet B. <ha...@ko...> - 2003-08-12 02:12:37
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Palmer" <ma...@an...> > > > http://www.webmacro.org/UsingWebMacroWithJsp > > The example you give... doesn't it require a WMServlet to make it work? Sure, it does require webmacro templates to be exposed as servlet with it's own URI. > > I was thinking of a "pure JSP" solution where a JSP page is used to create > an instance of WM and render templates, and this JSP is "called" from other > JSPs. I was trying to keep it separate at page level, but combined at runtime. Would be good to add to Wiki the JSP/WM hybrid page ideas too. Harmeet |
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From: Marc P. <ma...@an...> - 2003-08-11 17:58:17
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On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 00:35:14 -0400, Harmeet Bedi <ha...@ko...> wrote: > Did it. http://www.webmacro.org/UsingWebMacroWithJsp The example you give... doesn't it require a WMServlet to make it work? I was thinking of a "pure JSP" solution where a JSP page is used to create an instance of WM and render templates, and this JSP is "called" from other JSPs. Marc -- Marc Palmer Contract Java Consultant/Developer w a n g j a m m e r s java and web software design experts with an ethical outlook http://www.wangjammers.org |
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From: Lane S. <la...@op...> - 2003-08-08 15:09:57
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You are the man, Harmeet! Thanks for this invaluable web page addition. Feel free to go back and update it as new ideas come to mind. thanks again, Lane Harmeet Bedi wrote: >Did it. http://www.webmacro.org/UsingWebMacroWithJsp > >On first save attempt I got a number format exception. But the second try >went through ok. Did not save the error message unfortunately. > > >Also this page seems to have a deficiency. >http://www.webmacro.org/AddNewContent >It talks about edit, not adding new pages. Found that by guess work. It is >http://www.webmacro.org/ControllerPage?edit=new_page_name. It would be cool, >if there was a javascript page that prompted user to enter page name, >validate it and generate appropriate URL. > >Harmeet >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Lane Sharman" <la...@op...> > > > > >>If someone could write up and post a simple JSP page at >>http://www.webmacro.org/UsingWebMacroWithJsp >> >> > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including >Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. >Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. >http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 >_______________________________________________ >Webmacro-devel mailing list >Web...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webmacro-devel > > > -- Lane Sharman Learn About Conga, All Java GUI Builder: http://opendoors.com/conga |
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From: Harmeet B. <ha...@ko...> - 2003-08-08 04:34:48
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Did it. http://www.webmacro.org/UsingWebMacroWithJsp On first save attempt I got a number format exception. But the second try went through ok. Did not save the error message unfortunately. Also this page seems to have a deficiency. http://www.webmacro.org/AddNewContent It talks about edit, not adding new pages. Found that by guess work. It is http://www.webmacro.org/ControllerPage?edit=new_page_name. It would be cool, if there was a javascript page that prompted user to enter page name, validate it and generate appropriate URL. Harmeet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lane Sharman" <la...@op...> > If someone could write up and post a simple JSP page at > http://www.webmacro.org/UsingWebMacroWithJsp |
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From: Lane S. <la...@op...> - 2003-08-08 03:45:37
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If someone could write up and post a simple JSP page at http://www.webmacro.org/UsingWebMacroWithJsp that would be fantastic and I second the motion. Thankfully, I am completely ignorant of how to do this so I leave it to one of you JSP experts out there. Thanks! -Lane Harmeet Bedi wrote: >I am pretty sure one could do this with jsp:include facility - Outer >template >asks servlet engine to process another template or servlet and include >the result in calling template. >One JSP file could include URL to a webmacro template. > >Would that not work ? It seems like an elegant way to integrate. > >Harmeet > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including >Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. >Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. >http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 >_______________________________________________ >Webmacro-devel mailing list >Web...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webmacro-devel > > > -- Lane Sharman Learn About Conga, All Java GUI Builder: http://opendoors.com/conga |
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From: Harmeet B. <ha...@ko...> - 2003-08-08 03:09:17
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I am pretty sure one could do this with jsp:include facility - Outer template asks servlet engine to process another template or servlet and include the result in calling template. One JSP file could include URL to a webmacro template. Would that not work ? It seems like an elegant way to integrate. Harmeet |
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From: Marc P. <ma...@an...> - 2003-08-07 19:48:13
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On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 11:30:04 -0700, Brian Goetz <br...@qu...> wrote:
>> Hmm, but this is what I'd call quite a serious bug in WM. It affects how
>> people write templates.
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> I don't see how. Keats' workaround deals with this case acceptably.
For the record, I meant if no workaround is applied, people have to write
their templates differently to how they might like.
...because I don't like the hack idea, but if it's the best we can expect.
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From: Marc P. <ma...@an...> - 2003-08-07 19:18:05
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On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 11:30:04 -0700, Brian Goetz <br...@qu...> wrote:
>> Hmm, but this is what I'd call quite a serious bug in WM. It affects how
>> people write templates.
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> I don't see how. Keats' workaround deals with this case acceptably.
> Because of the underlying problem, there may be others, there probably
> are, but you have to find them first before you get to declare
> "serious bug." I'm inclined to let the underlying problem lie until
> other incidences crop up. The cost/benefit of fixing and testing the
> underlying problem seems unattractive.
OK that's your take on it :-)
Personally, cost/benefit analysis or not, I am not happy shipping software
with known bugs that require workarounds - it's how code becomes mangled
and twisted and you end up with a right old mess.
If we're not going to get anybody who can fix this working on it though, a
kludge it will have to be :(
Marc
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