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From: Bob P. <bo...@nl...> - 2006-12-02 03:13:28
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I just installed the new 1.310 Webmin, and was looking for the new feature I had requested of getting rid of the indexes listed in the MySQL section. However, I don't see any change there, and don't see the configuration for this "feature" (to return it to behaving the way 1.29 and previous all did). Also, I don't see any auto-update function that I thought I remember seeing in old Webmins. Am I missing something? Bob |
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From: Jamie C. <jca...@we...> - 2006-12-02 03:26:56
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Hi Bob, To turn off the display of indexes, you need to go to Webmin Users -> roo= t -> MySQL Database, and on the form that appears change the 'Can manage = indexes' setting to No, then click Save. The auto-update feature is still in there as always, in the Webmin Config= uration module under Upgrade Webmin. - Jamie -----Original Message----- From: "Bob Puff" <bo...@nl...> Subj: Re: [webmin-l] Webmin 1.310 released Date: Fri 1 Dec 2006 7:13 pm Size: 953 bytes To: web...@li... I just installed the new 1.310 Webmin, and was looking for the new featur= e I had requested of getting rid of the indexes listed in the MySQL section.=20 However, I don't see any change there, and don't see the configuration fo= r this "feature" (to return it to behaving the way 1.29 and previous all di= d). Also, I don't see any auto-update function that I thought I remember seei= ng in old Webmins. Am I missing something? Bob ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share y= our opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=3Djoin.php&p=3Dsourceforge&CID=3D= DEVDEV - Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at web...@li....n= et To remove yourself from this list, go to http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list |
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From: Jamie C. <jca...@we...> - 2006-12-02 03:52:09
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Not forever ... It can be downloaded from http://www.webmin.com/download/= modules/old-blue-theme.wbm.gz - Jamie -----Original Message----- From: Mark Frank <ma...@ma...> Subj: Re: [webmin-l] Webmin 1.310 released Date: Fri 1 Dec 2006 7:45 pm Size: 778 bytes To: web...@li... * On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 04:56:14PM -0800 Jamie Cameron wrote: > - Re-designed the Simple Blue theme to use frames. So the nice Simple Blue theme is gone forever? I hate frames. Mark --=20 "The fix is only temporary...unless it works." - Red Green ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share y= our opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=3Djoin.php&p=3Dsourceforge&CID=3D= DEVDEV - Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at web...@li....n= et To remove yourself from this list, go to http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list |
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From: Mark F. <ma...@ma...> - 2006-12-02 12:51:43
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* On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 07:50:00PM -0800 Jamie Cameron wrote: > Not forever ... It can be downloaded from http://www.webmin.com/download/modules/old-blue-theme.wbm.gz Great! Thanks Jamie. Mark |
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From: Thomas L. <th...@th...> - 2006-12-02 12:23:50
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> Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:27:42 -0800 (PST) > From: "Jamie Cameron" <jca...@we...> > Subject: Re: [webmin-l] webalizer replaced by awffull in Mandriva 2007 > To: Webmin users list <web...@li...> > Message-ID: <116...@ww...> > > On 1/Dec/2006 14:13 Thomas Leavitt wrote .. > >> Webalizer is no longer being packaged for distribution by Mandriva's >> maintainers, >> instead, it has been replaced by AWFFull: >> >> *"Webalizer* is a great weblog analysis program but hasn't been going >> anywhere in recent years. AWFFull takes that base and starts to >> fix the niggles and annoyances and hopefully become a useful >> enhancement. As a base, weblizer has a stated goal of producing >> web server analysis. AWFFull on the other hand, will gradually >> focus more on the business intelligence contained within those >> logs - and not specifically limited just to web server logs." >> >> The AWFFull web site is here... >> >> http://www.stedee.id.au/awffull >> >> Virtualmin GPL assumes that Webazlizer is available. That can be >> bypassed by disabling it. I know, also, that I can simply download and >> install the static webalizer binaries (or install awstats and the >> awstats virtualmin module - which is what I'm doing)... but I thought I >> should point this out, as other distribution managers may come to the >> same conclusion. >> > > Interesting, I didn't know what Webalizer had discontinued development .. > Does AWFFull use the same configs as Webalizer? If so, it should be > relatively easy to support. > > Until then, you could use AWstats, which is IMHO superior to Webalizer > anyway. And fully supported by Virtualmin's plugin.. > > - Jamie > The webalizer web site is still being maintained (home page was last updated on the 29th of Nov.), however, it appears that the code is going nowhere, as the last (minor) update was on April 16, 2002, and the last major one in 2000... which is an eon in Internet terms. According to the README file of of Webalizer Extended (a fork), they've cleaned up a number of bugs and security issues that were present in the last released version of Webalizer. The Wikipedia page on it lists numerous forks, of which AWFFull is just one... don't know anything about how it is set up. Webalizer Extended might be more backwards compatible, config file wise... scanning through the README, it seems clear that he's simply added to what's there, rather than making major architectural changes... + New configuration keywords to control all new Webalizer Xtended features. + Bug-fix for truncated user agent strings in the "User Agents" statistics of the original Webalizer 2.01-10 (user agent fields can now be grouped correctly). + Bug-fixes for serveral other problems with truncated strings (e.g. referrers) in the original Webalizer 2.01-10. + Security bug-fixes for several buffer overflows in the original Webalizer 2.01-10. webalizer extended home page: http://www.patrickfrei.ch/webalizer/ *** Mandriva is packaging awstats for distribution, so that's what I'm going with for the moment. Seems to me that Virtualmin's maintainers might need to consider replacing webalizer as the default with another web stats package... given that code for awstats already exists, and that the package is being actively maintained (and there's a webmin module listed on their project page at sourceforge.net, even), it would seem like a logical candidate. Thomas |
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From: Jamie C. <jca...@we...> - 2006-12-03 00:46:41
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On 2/Dec/2006 04:23 Thomas Leavitt wrote .. > > > Message: 7 > > Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:27:42 -0800 (PST) > > From: "Jamie Cameron" <jca...@we...> > > Subject: Re: [webmin-l] webalizer replaced by awffull in Mandriva 2007 > > To: Webmin users list <web...@li...> > > Message-ID: <116...@ww...> > > > > On 1/Dec/2006 14:13 Thomas Leavitt wrote .. > > > >> Webalizer is no longer being packaged for distribution by Mandriva's > >> maintainers, > >> instead, it has been replaced by AWFFull: > >> > >> *"Webalizer* is a great weblog analysis program but hasn't been going > >> anywhere in recent years. AWFFull takes that base and starts to > >> fix the niggles and annoyances and hopefully become a useful > >> enhancement. As a base, weblizer has a stated goal of producing > >> web server analysis. AWFFull on the other hand, will gradually > >> focus more on the business intelligence contained within those > >> logs - and not specifically limited just to web server logs." > >> > >> The AWFFull web site is here... > >> > >> http://www.stedee.id.au/awffull > >> > >> Virtualmin GPL assumes that Webazlizer is available. That can be > >> bypassed by disabling it. I know, also, that I can simply download and > >> install the static webalizer binaries (or install awstats and the > >> awstats virtualmin module - which is what I'm doing)... but I thought > I > >> should point this out, as other distribution managers may come to the > >> same conclusion. > >> > > > > Interesting, I didn't know what Webalizer had discontinued development > .. > > Does AWFFull use the same configs as Webalizer? If so, it should be > > relatively easy to support. > > > > Until then, you could use AWstats, which is IMHO superior to Webalizer > > anyway. And fully supported by Virtualmin's plugin.. > > > > - Jamie > > > > The webalizer web site is still being maintained (home page was last > updated on the 29th of Nov.), however, it appears that the code is going > nowhere, as the last (minor) update was on April 16, 2002, and the last > major one in 2000... which is an eon in Internet terms. According to the > README file of of Webalizer Extended (a fork), they've cleaned up a > number of bugs and security issues that were present in the last > released version of Webalizer. > > The Wikipedia page on it lists numerous forks, of which AWFFull is just > one... don't know anything about how it is set up. > > Webalizer Extended might be more backwards compatible, config file > wise... scanning through the README, it seems clear that he's simply > added to what's there, rather than making major architectural changes... > > + New configuration keywords to control all new Webalizer Xtended features. > + Bug-fix for truncated user agent strings in the "User Agents" > statistics of the original Webalizer 2.01-10 (user agent fields can now > be grouped correctly). > + Bug-fixes for serveral other problems with truncated strings (e.g. > referrers) in the original Webalizer 2.01-10. > + Security bug-fixes for several buffer overflows in the original > Webalizer 2.01-10. > > webalizer extended home page: > > http://www.patrickfrei.ch/webalizer/ > > *** > > Mandriva is packaging awstats for distribution, so that's what I'm going > with for the moment. Seems to me that Virtualmin's maintainers might > need to consider replacing webalizer as the default with another web > stats package... given that code for awstats already exists, and that > the package is being actively maintained (and there's a webmin module > listed on their project page at sourceforge.net, even), it would seem > like a logical candidate. Yeah, it sounds like awstats is the really only well maintained and commonly distributed option at the moment .. unless webalizer extended or one of the other webalizer follow-ons is included with a large number of operating systems. Actually, I'm beginning to think that running your own log analysis is not such a good idea in the first place - sites like Google Analytics do a great job. Perhaps I should add an option to Virtualmin to automatically put a Google Analytics <script> section on each web page... - Jamie |
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From: <da...@so...> - 2006-12-03 00:58:57
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Ah, but Jamie, I'm not thrilled with Google compiling all the user demographics with my traffic. I do the work and spend the money. I like the AWStats, it's a great selling point. ;-) Dan Long From: "Jamie Cameron" <jca...@we...> To: Webmin users list <web...@li...> Copies to: Date sent: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 16:46:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [webmin-l] webalizer replaced by awffull in Mandriva 2007 Send reply to: Webmin users list <web...@li...> <mailto:web...@li...?subject=unsubscribe> <mailto:web...@li...?subject=subscribe> Keywords: [ Double-click this line for list subscription options ] On 2/Dec/2006 04:23 Thomas Leavitt wrote .. > > > Message: 7 > > Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:27:42 -0800 (PST) > > From: "Jamie Cameron" <jca...@we...> > > Subject: Re: [webmin-l] webalizer replaced by awffull in Mandriva 2007 > > To: Webmin users list <web...@li...> > > Message-ID: <116...@ww...> > > > > On 1/Dec/2006 14:13 Thomas Leavitt wrote .. > > > >> Webalizer is no longer being packaged for distribution by Mandriva's > >> maintainers, > >> instead, it has been replaced by AWFFull: > >> > >> *"Webalizer* is a great weblog analysis program but hasn't been going > >> anywhere in recent years. AWFFull takes that base and starts to > >> fix the niggles and annoyances and hopefully become a useful > >> enhancement. As a base, weblizer has a stated goal of producing > >> web server analysis. AWFFull on the other hand, will gradually > >> focus more on the business intelligence contained within those > >> logs - and not specifically limited just to web server logs." > >> > >> The AWFFull web site is here... > >> > >> http://www.stedee.id.au/awffull > >> > >> Virtualmin GPL assumes that Webazlizer is available. That can be > >> bypassed by disabling it. I know, also, that I can simply download and > >> install the static webalizer binaries (or install awstats and the > >> awstats virtualmin module - which is what I'm doing)... but I thought > I > >> should point this out, as other distribution managers may come to the > >> same conclusion. > >> > > > > Interesting, I didn't know what Webalizer had discontinued development > .. > > Does AWFFull use the same configs as Webalizer? If so, it should be > > relatively easy to support. > > > > Until then, you could use AWstats, which is IMHO superior to Webalizer > > anyway. And fully supported by Virtualmin's plugin.. > > > > - Jamie > > > > The webalizer web site is still being maintained (home page was last > updated on the 29th of Nov.), however, it appears that the code is going > nowhere, as the last (minor) update was on April 16, 2002, and the last > major one in 2000... which is an eon in Internet terms. According to the > README file of of Webalizer Extended (a fork), they've cleaned up a > number of bugs and security issues that were present in the last > released version of Webalizer. > > The Wikipedia page on it lists numerous forks, of which AWFFull is just > one... don't know anything about how it is set up. > > Webalizer Extended might be more backwards compatible, config file > wise... scanning through the README, it seems clear that he's simply > added to what's there, rather than making major architectural changes... > > + New configuration keywords to control all new Webalizer Xtended features. > + Bug-fix for truncated user agent strings in the "User Agents" > statistics of the original Webalizer 2.01-10 (user agent fields can now > be grouped correctly). > + Bug-fixes for serveral other problems with truncated strings (e.g. > referrers) in the original Webalizer 2.01-10. > + Security bug-fixes for several buffer overflows in the original > Webalizer 2.01-10. > > webalizer extended home page: > > http://www.patrickfrei.ch/webalizer/ > > *** > > Mandriva is packaging awstats for distribution, so that's what I'm going > with for the moment. Seems to me that Virtualmin's maintainers might > need to consider replacing webalizer as the default with another web > stats package... given that code for awstats already exists, and that > the package is being actively maintained (and there's a webmin module > listed on their project page at sourceforge.net, even), it would seem > like a logical candidate. Yeah, it sounds like awstats is the really only well maintained and commonly distributed option at the moment .. unless webalizer extended or one of the other webalizer follow-ons is included with a large number of operating systems. Actually, I'm beginning to think that running your own log analysis is not such a good idea in the first place - sites like Google Analytics do a great job. Perhaps I should add an option to Virtualmin to automatically put a Google Analytics <script> section on each web page... - Jamie ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge &CID=DEVDEV - Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at webadmin- li...@li... To remove yourself from this list, go to http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list ****************************************************************************** *** Domains by SolvNet http://solvnetdomains.com Be a domain reseller and make cash http://domainmiddleman.com Domain name registration and hosting solutions. http://solvnethosting.com |
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From: Jamie C. <jca...@we...> - 2006-12-03 01:02:22
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True .. but they have some really nice Flash graphs :-) Any future integration with Google would be an option, rather than a replacement for AWstats and Webalizer.. - Jamie On 2/Dec/2006 17:01 da...@so... wrote .. > Ah, but Jamie, I'm not thrilled with Google compiling all the user > demographics with my traffic. I do the work and spend the money. I > like the AWStats, it's a great selling point. ;-) > > Dan Long > > From: "Jamie Cameron" <jca...@we...> > To: Webmin users list <web...@li...> > Copies to: > Date sent: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 16:46:29 -0800 (PST) > Subject: Re: [webmin-l] webalizer replaced by awffull in Mandriva > 2007 > Send reply to: Webmin users list <web...@li...> > <mailto:web...@li...?subject=unsubscribe> > <mailto:web...@li...?subject=subscribe> > Keywords: > > [ Double-click this line for list subscription options ] > > On 2/Dec/2006 04:23 Thomas Leavitt wrote .. > > > > > Message: 7 > > > Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:27:42 -0800 (PST) > > > From: "Jamie Cameron" <jca...@we...> > > > Subject: Re: [webmin-l] webalizer replaced by awffull in > Mandriva 2007 > > > To: Webmin users list <web...@li...> > > > Message-ID: <116...@ww...> > > > > > > On 1/Dec/2006 14:13 Thomas Leavitt wrote .. > > > > > >> Webalizer is no longer being packaged for distribution by > Mandriva's > > >> maintainers, > > >> instead, it has been replaced by AWFFull: > > >> > > >> *"Webalizer* is a great weblog analysis program but hasn't > been going > > >> anywhere in recent years. AWFFull takes that base and starts > to > > >> fix the niggles and annoyances and hopefully become a useful > > >> enhancement. As a base, weblizer has a stated goal of > producing > > >> web server analysis. AWFFull on the other hand, will gradually > > >> focus more on the business intelligence contained within those > > >> logs - and not specifically limited just to web server logs." > > >> > > >> The AWFFull web site is here... > > >> > > >> http://www.stedee.id.au/awffull > > >> > > >> Virtualmin GPL assumes that Webazlizer is available. That can > be > > >> bypassed by disabling it. I know, also, that I can simply > download and > > >> install the static webalizer binaries (or install awstats and the > > >> awstats virtualmin module - which is what I'm doing)... but I > thought > > I > > >> should point this out, as other distribution managers may come > to the > > >> same conclusion. > > >> > > > > > > Interesting, I didn't know what Webalizer had discontinued > development > > .. > > > Does AWFFull use the same configs as Webalizer? If so, it > should be > > > relatively easy to support. > > > > > > Until then, you could use AWstats, which is IMHO superior to > Webalizer > > > anyway. And fully supported by Virtualmin's plugin.. > > > > > > - Jamie > > > > > > > The webalizer web site is still being maintained (home page was > last > > updated on the 29th of Nov.), however, it appears that the code is > going > > nowhere, as the last (minor) update was on April 16, 2002, and > the last > > major one in 2000... which is an eon in Internet terms. According > to the > > README file of of Webalizer Extended (a fork), they've cleaned > up a > > number of bugs and security issues that were present in the last > > released version of Webalizer. > > > > The Wikipedia page on it lists numerous forks, of which AWFFull > is just > > one... don't know anything about how it is set up. > > > > Webalizer Extended might be more backwards compatible, config > file > > wise... scanning through the README, it seems clear that he's > simply > > added to what's there, rather than making major architectural > changes... > > > > + New configuration keywords to control all new Webalizer > Xtended features. > > + Bug-fix for truncated user agent strings in the "User Agents" > > statistics of the original Webalizer 2.01-10 (user agent fields can > now > > be grouped correctly). > > + Bug-fixes for serveral other problems with truncated strings (e.g. > > referrers) in the original Webalizer 2.01-10. > > + Security bug-fixes for several buffer overflows in the original > > Webalizer 2.01-10. > > > > webalizer extended home page: > > > > http://www.patrickfrei.ch/webalizer/ > > > > *** > > > > Mandriva is packaging awstats for distribution, so that's what I'm > going > > with for the moment. Seems to me that Virtualmin's maintainers > might > > need to consider replacing webalizer as the default with another > web > > stats package... given that code for awstats already exists, and > that > > the package is being actively maintained (and there's a webmin > module > > listed on their project page at sourceforge.net, even), it would > seem > > like a logical candidate. > > Yeah, it sounds like awstats is the really only well maintained and > commonly distributed option at the moment .. unless webalizer > extended > or one of the other webalizer follow-ons is included with a large > number > of operating systems. > > Actually, I'm beginning to think that running your own log analysis > is not such a good idea in the first place - sites like Google > Analytics do a great job. Perhaps I should add an option to > Virtualmin > to automatically put a Google Analytics <script> section on each > web > page... > > - Jamie > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. 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