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[webmin-l] Recovery from backup.

[Thomas L. <tho...@ho...>]

My root filesystem ate itself over the weekend (IBM "Deathstar" "click of 
death").

I've decided to go ahead and install the latest version of the operating 
system (since my system was two full revisions back of this, and for other 
reasons).

Fortunately, I configured Webmin's backup module, so all my configuration 
files are saved.

I've installed webmin 1.230 from the noarch.rpm (previously, it was 
installed from a tarball).

Can someone please point me to a document explaining how to recover (if 
there is such a thing)?

Regards,
Thomas Leavitt

--
Thomas Leavitt -- tho...@ho..., Sr. Systems Admin For Hire
Resume at http://www.thomasleavitt.org/personal/resume/

Wired since 1981. Internet-enabled since 1990. Web-enabled since 1993. 
Older, wiser, and poorer, post-crash. :)

Re: [webmin-l] Recovery from backup.

[Tom K. <th...@lv...>]

Enter webmin

Click on 'System'
Click on 'FileSystem Backup'

If you used webmin to make them, they will all be there.

I use webmin to do a level 0 once a week, and a level 9 the rest of the=
 time.

I've recovered lost files this way many times, and it really does work=
 great.

On the other hand, if you just used the dump command without webmin, you=
 will have to use the restore command. See Man pages on that puppy (ich).

Tom Klem


*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********

On 10/03/2005 at 1:02 PM Thomas Leavitt wrote:

>My root filesystem ate itself over the weekend (IBM "Deathstar" "click of 
>death").
>
>I've decided to go ahead and install the latest version of the operating 
>system (since my system was two full revisions back of this, and for other=
 
>reasons).
>
>Fortunately, I configured Webmin's backup module, so all my configuration 
>files are saved.
>
>I've installed webmin 1.230 from the noarch.rpm (previously, it was 
>installed from a tarball).
>
>Can someone please point me to a document explaining how to recover (if 
>there is such a thing)?
>
>Regards,
>Thomas Leavitt
>
>--
>Thomas Leavitt -- tho...@ho..., Sr. Systems Admin For Hire
>Resume at http://www.thomasleavitt.org/personal/resume/
>
>Wired since 1981. Internet-enabled since 1990. Web-enabled since 1993. 
>Older, wiser, and poorer, post-crash. :)
>
>
>
>
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Re: [webmin-l] Recovery from backup.

[Thomas L. <tho...@ho...>]

Well, I didn't do a filesystem backup... that doesn't really work on an 
active/root filesystem (at least that's my experience).

What I did was a configuration file backup (which actually saved my butt 
about 15 minutes later when I stomped an apache config file, which is why i 
did it).

So, I have tmp/backup-config-manifests

and the full /etc/

and thus etc/webmin and etc/usermin

... what I'm looking for, is what do I do now? Just copy everything back 
into /etc/ ?

Thomas

--
Thomas Leavitt -- tho...@ho..., Sr. Systems Admin For Hire
Resume at http://www.thomasleavitt.org/personal/resume/

Wired since 1981. Internet-enabled since 1990. Web-enabled since 1993. 
Older, wiser, and poorer, post-crash. :)




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>Enter webmin
>
>Click on 'System'
>Click on 'FileSystem Backup'
>
>If you used webmin to make them, they will all be there.
>
>I use webmin to do a level 0 once a week, and a level 9 the rest of the 
>time.
>
>I've recovered lost files this way many times, and it really does work 
>great.
>
>On the other hand, if you just used the dump command without webmin, you 
>will have to use the restore command. See Man pages on that puppy (ich).
>
>Tom Klem
>
>
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>
>On 10/03/2005 at 1:02 PM Thomas Leavitt wrote:
>
> >My root filesystem ate itself over the weekend (IBM "Deathstar" "click of
> >death").
> >
> >I've decided to go ahead and install the latest version of the operating
> >system (since my system was two full revisions back of this, and for 
>other
> >reasons).
> >
> >Fortunately, I configured Webmin's backup module, so all my configuration
> >files are saved.
> >
> >I've installed webmin 1.230 from the noarch.rpm (previously, it was
> >installed from a tarball).
> >
> >Can someone please point me to a document explaining how to recover (if
> >there is such a thing)?
> >
> >Regards,
> >Thomas Leavitt
> >
> >--
> >Thomas Leavitt -- tho...@ho..., Sr. Systems Admin For Hire
> >Resume at http://www.thomasleavitt.org/personal/resume/
> >
> >Wired since 1981. Internet-enabled since 1990. Web-enabled since 1993.
> >Older, wiser, and poorer, post-crash. :)
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [webmin-l] Recovery from backup.

[Joe C. <jo...@sw...>]

Hi Thomas,

Since you have upgraded to a new version of your OS (and subsequently 
new versions of all of your applications), I would advise you proceed 
with caution and restore only the files you need.

The configuration file backup is extremely useful in a situation where 
you are restoring from a system backup and want to get the latest 
version of your configuration files (and in this case you can just 
unroll the tarball right into /etc and expect everything to work fine). 
  Or, it can be used as a "butt saver" as you've discovered, in case you 
screw up a working configuration...in that case you pull out the one bad 
file.

In your case, however, a wholesale configuration file overwrite with old 
versions will be quite calamitous (OK, probably only for some 
files...but knowing  which files is where the fun comes in).

If I were in your situation, I would restore into a temporary directory, 
make a backup copy of the "new" /etc directory, and then copy in the 
files for each service, one at a time.  Restart the service, test it as 
thoroughly as you can, and then move on to the next.  I'm betting theres 
only a few (maybe a dozen) files in /etc that actually need to be 
restored--most of my full-service (web, mail, database, Subversion, 
etc.) servers have about that many.  Of course, some services put data 
elsewhere, which is simply lost if you don't have a backup.  Databases 
store data and much configuration in /var, for example.

Hope this helps.

Thomas Leavitt wrote:
> Well, I didn't do a filesystem backup... that doesn't really work on an 
> active/root filesystem (at least that's my experience).
> 
> What I did was a configuration file backup (which actually saved my butt 
> about 15 minutes later when I stomped an apache config file, which is 
> why i did it).
> 
> So, I have tmp/backup-config-manifests
> 
> and the full /etc/
> 
> and thus etc/webmin and etc/usermin
> 
> ... what I'm looking for, is what do I do now? Just copy everything back 
> into /etc/ ?
> 
> Thomas
> 
> -- 
> Thomas Leavitt -- tho...@ho..., Sr. Systems Admin For Hire
> Resume at http://www.thomasleavitt.org/personal/resume/
> 
> Wired since 1981. Internet-enabled since 1990. Web-enabled since 1993. 
> Older, wiser, and poorer, post-crash. :)
> 
> 
> 
> 
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>>
>> Enter webmin
>>
>> Click on 'System'
>> Click on 'FileSystem Backup'
>>
>> If you used webmin to make them, they will all be there.
>>
>> I use webmin to do a level 0 once a week, and a level 9 the rest of 
>> the time.
>>
>> I've recovered lost files this way many times, and it really does work 
>> great.
>>
>> On the other hand, if you just used the dump command without webmin, 
>> you will have to use the restore command. See Man pages on that puppy 
>> (ich).
>>
>> Tom Klem
>>
>>
>> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
>>
>> On 10/03/2005 at 1:02 PM Thomas Leavitt wrote:
>>
>> >My root filesystem ate itself over the weekend (IBM "Deathstar" 
>> "click of
>> >death").
>> >
>> >I've decided to go ahead and install the latest version of the operating
>> >system (since my system was two full revisions back of this, and for 
>> other
>> >reasons).
>> >
>> >Fortunately, I configured Webmin's backup module, so all my 
>> configuration
>> >files are saved.
>> >
>> >I've installed webmin 1.230 from the noarch.rpm (previously, it was
>> >installed from a tarball).
>> >
>> >Can someone please point me to a document explaining how to recover (if
>> >there is such a thing)?
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >Thomas Leavitt
>> >
>> >--
>> >Thomas Leavitt -- tho...@ho..., Sr. Systems Admin For Hire
>> >Resume at http://www.thomasleavitt.org/personal/resume/
>> >
>> >Wired since 1981. Internet-enabled since 1990. Web-enabled since 1993.
>> >Older, wiser, and poorer, post-crash. :)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Re: [webmin-l] Recovery from backup.

[Thomas L. <tho...@ho...>]

... what I'm really asking about is webmin itself... if I was running 1.230 
before, can the webmin files in /etc/ and the usermin files in /etc/ be 
recovered straight up, off the old machine (since the new one will have the 
same IP addrs and hostname)?

Thomas

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>Hi Thomas,
>
>Since you have upgraded to a new version of your OS (and subsequently new 
>versions of all of your applications), I would advise you proceed with 
>caution and restore only the files you need.
>
>The configuration file backup is extremely useful in a situation where you 
>are restoring from a system backup and want to get the latest version of 
>your configuration files (and in this case you can just unroll the tarball 
>right into /etc and expect everything to work fine).  Or, it can be used as 
>a "butt saver" as you've discovered, in case you screw up a working 
>configuration...in that case you pull out the one bad file.
>
>In your case, however, a wholesale configuration file overwrite with old 
>versions will be quite calamitous (OK, probably only for some files...but 
>knowing  which files is where the fun comes in).
>
>If I were in your situation, I would restore into a temporary directory, 
>make a backup copy of the "new" /etc directory, and then copy in the files 
>for each service, one at a time.  Restart the service, test it as 
>thoroughly as you can, and then move on to the next.  I'm betting theres 
>only a few (maybe a dozen) files in /etc that actually need to be 
>restored--most of my full-service (web, mail, database, Subversion, etc.) 
>servers have about that many.  Of course, some services put data elsewhere, 
>which is simply lost if you don't have a backup.  Databases store data and 
>much configuration in /var, for example.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>Thomas Leavitt wrote:
>>Well, I didn't do a filesystem backup... that doesn't really work on an 
>>active/root filesystem (at least that's my experience).
>>
>>What I did was a configuration file backup (which actually saved my butt 
>>about 15 minutes later when I stomped an apache config file, which is why 
>>i did it).
>>
>>So, I have tmp/backup-config-manifests
>>
>>and the full /etc/
>>
>>and thus etc/webmin and etc/usermin
>>
>>... what I'm looking for, is what do I do now? Just copy everything back 
>>into /etc/ ?
>>
>>Thomas
>>
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>>>From: "Tom Klem" <th...@lv...>
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>>>Subject: Re: [webmin-l] Recovery from backup.
>>>Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 14:06:35 -0700
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>>>Enter webmin
>>>
>>>Click on 'System'
>>>Click on 'FileSystem Backup'
>>>
>>>If you used webmin to make them, they will all be there.
>>>
>>>I use webmin to do a level 0 once a week, and a level 9 the rest of the 
>>>time.
>>>
>>>I've recovered lost files this way many times, and it really does work 
>>>great.
>>>
>>>On the other hand, if you just used the dump command without webmin, you 
>>>will have to use the restore command. See Man pages on that puppy (ich).
>>>
>>>Tom Klem
>>>
>>>
>>>*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
>>>
>>>On 10/03/2005 at 1:02 PM Thomas Leavitt wrote:
>>>
>>> >My root filesystem ate itself over the weekend (IBM "Deathstar" "click 
>>>of
>>> >death").
>>> >
>>> >I've decided to go ahead and install the latest version of the 
>>>operating
>>> >system (since my system was two full revisions back of this, and for 
>>>other
>>> >reasons).
>>> >
>>> >Fortunately, I configured Webmin's backup module, so all my 
>>>configuration
>>> >files are saved.
>>> >
>>> >I've installed webmin 1.230 from the noarch.rpm (previously, it was
>>> >installed from a tarball).
>>> >
>>> >Can someone please point me to a document explaining how to recover (if
>>> >there is such a thing)?
>>> >
>>> >Regards,
>>> >Thomas Leavitt
>>> >
>>> >--
>>> >Thomas Leavitt -- tho...@ho..., Sr. Systems Admin For Hire
>>> >Resume at http://www.thomasleavitt.org/personal/resume/
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>>> >Wired since 1981. Internet-enabled since 1990. Web-enabled since 1993.
>>> >Older, wiser, and poorer, post-crash. :)
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