From: Richard C. <ri...@aa...> - 2012-05-14 02:17:10
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Hi Jamie. I routinely use "Software Package Updates" to keep my system up to date - and find it very reliable. The only slight omission in the "Software Package Update" is that it doesn't (AFAIK) tell you whether or not the system needs rebooting to finish the installation. The KDE Software Updtes app lets you know which package updates require a reboot - so the information must be there somewhere. Without this information - we don't know whether we need to reboot or not. Richard. -- Richard Chapman |
From: Kris D. <kd...@vi...> - 2012-05-14 14:09:54
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Richard Chapman wrote: > I routinely use "Software Package Updates" to keep my system up to date > - and find it very reliable. The only slight omission in the "Software > Package Update" is that it doesn't (AFAIK) tell you whether or not the > system needs rebooting to finish the installation. The KDE Software > Updtes app lets you know which package updates require a reboot - so the > information must be there somewhere. Without this information - we don't > know whether we need to reboot or not. A kernel update requires a reboot - and even that can be done live; there's a company that has developed a method for replacing the running kernel. Nothing else *requires* a reboot, although some updates will trigger restart of some system daemons. Unlike "Your mouse has moved. Please restart for the changes to take effect" Windows.... -kgd |
From: Daniel C. <dan...@gm...> - 2012-05-14 14:18:47
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A kernel update also doesn't require an immediate reboot, it can be done alongside scheduled reboots at a later date. Look at the changelog for the kernel you have upgraded to make sure there isn't any immediate & security reasons for an instant update, but usually there isn't. One of my servers has been up for almost a year now. Daniel |
From: Jamie C. <jca...@we...> - 2012-05-14 20:14:26
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On 13/May/2012 18:45 Richard Chapman <ri...@aa...> wrote .. > Hi Jamie. > > I routinely use "Software Package Updates" to keep my system up to date > - and find it very reliable. The only slight omission in the "Software > Package Update" is that it doesn't (AFAIK) tell you whether or not the > system needs rebooting to finish the installation. The KDE Software > Updtes app lets you know which package updates require a reboot - so the > information must be there somewhere. Without this information - we don't > know whether we need to reboot or not. I suppose that could be added to Webmin - but I don't know of any way to find out it a package requires a reboot or not. Other than assuming that all packages starting with "kernel" need a reboot to apply.. - Jamie |
From: Daniel C. <dan...@gm...> - 2012-05-14 20:27:22
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Hi Jamie, This might be of some use on Debian based systems, not sure on the rest: http://serverfault.com/questions/92932/how-does-ubuntu-keep-track-of-the-system-restart-required-flag-in-motd/92940#92940 |
From: Sart C. <sar...@ya...> - 2012-05-15 14:30:02
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Hi Jamie, Ok for the reboot warning / button in the next Webminrelease.... But "please" never make a automatic reboot... Sart ________________________________ From: Jamie Cameron <jca...@we...> To: Webmin users list <web...@li...> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 6:36:30 PM Subject: Re: [webmin-l] Suggestion for Software Package Updates Thanks for the link - I was hoping for some package attribute to indicate if a reboot is needed, but I can work with that file. I'll add a reboot warning / button in the next Webmin release. On 14/May/2012 13:26 Daniel Case <dan...@gm...> wrote .. Hi Jamie, > > >This might be of some use on Debian based systems, not sure on the rest: >http://serverfault.com/questions/92932/how-does-ubuntu-keep-track-of-the-system-restart-required-flag-in-motd/92940#92940 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ - Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at web...@li... To remove yourself from this list, go to http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list |
From: Jamie C. <jca...@we...> - 2012-05-15 14:42:25
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Don't worry, it wont reboot automatically - just show a button to trigger a reboot if needed. On May 15, 2012, at 7:29 AM, Sart Cole <sar...@ya...> wrote: > Hi Jamie, > > Ok for the reboot warning / button in the next Webmin release.... > > But "please" never make a automatic reboot... > > Sart > > From: Jamie Cameron <jca...@we...> > To: Webmin users list <web...@li...> > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 6:36:30 PM > Subject: Re: [webmin-l] Suggestion for Software Package Updates > > Thanks for the link - I was hoping for some package attribute to indicate if a reboot is needed, but I can work with that file. I'll add a reboot warning / button in the next Webmin release. > On 14/May/2012 13:26 Daniel Case <dan...@gm...> wrote .. >> Hi Jamie, >> >> This might be of some use on Debian based systems, not sure on the rest: >> http://serverfault.com/questions/92932/how-does-ubuntu-keep-track-of-the-system-restart-required-flag-in-motd/92940#92940 >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > - > Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at web...@li... > To remove yourself from this list, go to > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > - > Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at web...@li... > To remove yourself from this list, go to > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list |
From: Sart C. <sar...@ya...> - 2012-05-16 03:28:47
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Hi Jamie, In the past 15 years I have install many Linux distribution (RedHat, Mandriva, Fedora, Suse... etc) and I never trusted there "software update scenarios" I'm now only using "Ubuntu server distrubution" with webmin Software Package Update with Email updates report For the first time I can trust a "software update scenarios" For me "Webmin Software Package Update with Email updates report" is Nirvana Thanks for your fine work Sart ________________________________ From: Jamie Cameron <jca...@we...> To: Sart Cole <sar...@ya...>; Webmin users list <web...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:42:09 AM Subject: Re: [webmin-l] Suggestion for Software Package Updates Don't worry, it wont reboot automatically - just show a button to trigger a reboot if needed. On May 15, 2012, at 7:29 AM, Sart Cole <sar...@ya...> wrote: Hi Jamie, > > >Ok for the reboot warning / button in the next Webminrelease.... > > >But "please" never make a automatic reboot... > > >Sart > > > >________________________________ > From: Jamie Cameron <jca...@we...> >To: Webmin users list <web...@li...> >Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 6:36:30 PM >Subject: Re: [webmin-l] Suggestion for Software Package Updates > > >Thanks for the link - I was hoping for some package attribute to indicate if a reboot is needed, but I can work with that file. I'll add a reboot warning / button in the next Webmin release. >On 14/May/2012 13:26 Daniel Case <dan...@gm...> wrote .. >Hi Jamie, >> >> >>This might be of some use on Debian based systems, not sure on the rest: >>http://serverfault.com/questions/92932/how-does-ubuntu-keep-track-of-the-system-restart-required-flag-in-motd/92940#92940 >> >> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Live Security Virtual Conference >Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >- >Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at web...@li... >To remove yourself from this list, go to >http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Live Security Virtual Conference >Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ - >Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at web...@li... >To remove yourself from this list, go to >http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list > |