Thread: [webmin-l] DNS with webmin - Delegating Subdomain?

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Hi.. if I have the domain secondary.mydomain.com how (in webmin) do I
tell bind to delegate that subdomain/zone to DNS server
ns5.mydomain.com ?

On 27/Oct/2006 10:55 Matt wrote ..
> Hi.. if I have the domain secondary.mydomain.com how (in webmin) do I
> tell bind to delegate that subdomain/zone to DNS server
> ns5.mydomain.com ?

Create an NS record in mydomain.com named secondary, with ns5.mydomain.com
as the name server.

 - Jamie

Speaking of delegating name servers....

Is there a way to have virtualmin update its dns records on a dns server 
not running on localhost?

Best,

Barry
Jamie Cameron wrote:
> On 27/Oct/2006 10:55 Matt wrote ..
>   
>> Hi.. if I have the domain secondary.mydomain.com how (in webmin) do I
>> tell bind to delegate that subdomain/zone to DNS server
>> ns5.mydomain.com ?
>>     
>
> Create an NS record in mydomain.com named secondary, with ns5.mydomain.com
> as the name server.
>
>  - Jamie
>   

Currently, no .. but allow different features (like DNS, web, etc) to be on different hosts is a long-term project. Actually, I just thought of one way to put DNS on another host - use the existing cluster slave servers feature in the BIND module, and make sure the NS records in your DNS zones don't include the master server. =A0- Jamie On 27/Oct/2006 15:20 Barry wrote ..
<blockquote type=3D"cite">

Speaking of delegating name servers....<br />
<br />
Is there a way to have virtualmin update its dns records on a dns
server not running on localhost?<br />
<br />
Best,<br />
<br />
Barry<br />
Jamie Cameron wrote:
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  <pre>On 27/Oct/2006 10:55 Matt wrote ..<br />  </pre>
  <blockquote type=3D"cite">
    <pre>Hi.. if I have the domain secondary.mydomain.com how (in webmin) do I<br />tell bind to delegate that subdomain/zone to DNS server<br />ns5.mydomain.com ?<br />    </pre>
  </blockquote>
  <pre><!---->
Create an NS record in mydomain.com named secondary, with ns5.mydomain.com
as the name server.

 - Jamie
  </pre>
</blockquote>
<br />
</blockquote><br />

Jamie -

Can you (or someone else perhaps) be more specific?

here is my situation:

- dns lives on dns01.domain.com
- host uses virtualmin to create virtual hosts, and can also have bind 
running, lets say bind is running on dns02.domain.com, which has the 
same IP as host
- virtualmin creates dns record in dns02
- all machines on local network have dns pointing to dns01

How should I set up dns01 and dns02 so all machines on the network will 
see the virtual hosts created by virtualmin?

Thanks!

Barry

Jamie Cameron wrote:
> Currently, no .. but allow different features (like DNS, web, etc) to be 
> on different hosts is a long-term project.
> 
> Actually, I just thought of one way to put DNS on another host - use the 
> existing cluster slave servers feature in the BIND module, and make sure 
> the NS records in your DNS zones don't include the master server.
> 
>  - Jamie
> 
> On 27/Oct/2006 15:20 Barry wrote ..
>> Speaking of delegating name servers....
>>
>> Is there a way to have virtualmin update its dns records on a dns 
>> server not running on localhost?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Barry
>> Jamie Cameron wrote:
>>> On 27/Oct/2006 10:55 Matt wrote ..
>>>   
>>>> Hi.. if I have the domain secondary.mydomain.com how (in webmin) do I
>>>> tell bind to delegate that subdomain/zone to DNS server
>>>> ns5.mydomain.com ?
>>>>     
>>>
>>> Create an NS record in mydomain.com named secondary, with ns5.mydomain.com
>>> as the name server.
>>>
>>>  - Jamie
>>>   
>>
> 

You can configure Webmin (and thus Virtualmin) so that any master
zones created on dns02 are also added to dns01, but as secondaries
with dns02 as the master. To do this, you need to :

1) On dns02, add dns01 in the Webmin Servers Index module (with a
login and password specified)
2) In the BIND module on dns01, on the Cluster Slave Servers page,
add dns02 as a slave.
3) Create a domain in Virtualmin on dns01. It should also be added
as a slave zone on dns02.

 - Jamie

On 27/Oct/2006 16:28 Barry wrote ..
> Jamie -
> 
> Can you (or someone else perhaps) be more specific?
> 
> here is my situation:
> 
> - dns lives on dns01.domain.com
> - host uses virtualmin to create virtual hosts, and can also have bind
> running, lets say bind is running on dns02.domain.com, which has the 
> same IP as host
> - virtualmin creates dns record in dns02
> - all machines on local network have dns pointing to dns01
> 
> How should I set up dns01 and dns02 so all machines on the network will
> see the virtual hosts created by virtualmin?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Barry
> 
> Jamie Cameron wrote:
> > Currently, no .. but allow different features (like DNS, web, etc) to
> be 
> > on different hosts is a long-term project.
> > 
> > Actually, I just thought of one way to put DNS on another host - use
> the 
> > existing cluster slave servers feature in the BIND module, and make sure
> > the NS records in your DNS zones don't include the master server.
> > 
> >  - Jamie
> > 
> > On 27/Oct/2006 15:20 Barry wrote ..
> >> Speaking of delegating name servers....
> >>
> >> Is there a way to have virtualmin update its dns records on a dns 
> >> server not running on localhost?
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Barry
> >> Jamie Cameron wrote:
> >>> On 27/Oct/2006 10:55 Matt wrote ..
> >>>   
> >>>> Hi.. if I have the domain secondary.mydomain.com how (in webmin) do
> I
> >>>> tell bind to delegate that subdomain/zone to DNS server
> >>>> ns5.mydomain.com ?
> >>>>     
> >>>
> >>> Create an NS record in mydomain.com named secondary, with ns5.mydomain.com
> >>> as the name server.
> >>>
> >>>  - Jamie
> >>>   
> >>
> > 
> 
> 
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Understood, if I want to deligate mydomain.com... however I want to
deligate secondary.mydomain.com to ns5.mydomain.com.. that is .. I am
not deligating mydomain.com to ns5, but rather secondary.mydomain.com
to ns5.

On 10/27/06, Jamie Cameron <jca...@we...> wrote:
> On 27/Oct/2006 10:55 Matt wrote ..
> > Hi.. if I have the domain secondary.mydomain.com how (in webmin) do I
> > tell bind to delegate that subdomain/zone to DNS server
> > ns5.mydomain.com ?
>
> Create an NS record in mydomain.com named secondary, with ns5.mydomain.com
> as the name server.
>
>  - Jamie
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier
> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642
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I understand .. that is exactly what my instructions do :-)

Basically, if you have a DNS record like :

secondary.mydomain.com.  IN  NS   ns5.mydomain.com.

Any queries for secondary.mydomain.com will be referred to the
nameserver ns5.mydomain.com.

 - Jamie

On 31/Oct/2006 12:07 Matt wrote ..
> Understood, if I want to deligate mydomain.com... however I want to
> deligate secondary.mydomain.com to ns5.mydomain.com.. that is .. I am
> not deligating mydomain.com to ns5, but rather secondary.mydomain.com
> to ns5.
> 
> On 10/27/06, Jamie Cameron <jca...@we...> wrote:
> > On 27/Oct/2006 10:55 Matt wrote ..
> > > Hi.. if I have the domain secondary.mydomain.com how (in webmin) do
> I
> > > tell bind to delegate that subdomain/zone to DNS server
> > > ns5.mydomain.com ?
> >
> > Create an NS record in mydomain.com named secondary, with ns5.mydomain.com
> > as the name server.
> >
> >  - Jamie

Ok.. I apologize.. I thought you were telling me how to make an A record :P

On 10/31/06, Jamie Cameron <jca...@we...> wrote:
> I understand .. that is exactly what my instructions do :-)
>
> Basically, if you have a DNS record like :
>
> secondary.mydomain.com.  IN  NS   ns5.mydomain.com.
>
> Any queries for secondary.mydomain.com will be referred to the
> nameserver ns5.mydomain.com.
>
>  - Jamie
>
> On 31/Oct/2006 12:07 Matt wrote ..
> > Understood, if I want to deligate mydomain.com... however I want to
> > deligate secondary.mydomain.com to ns5.mydomain.com.. that is .. I am
> > not deligating mydomain.com to ns5, but rather secondary.mydomain.com
> > to ns5.
> >
> > On 10/27/06, Jamie Cameron <jca...@we...> wrote:
> > > On 27/Oct/2006 10:55 Matt wrote ..
> > > > Hi.. if I have the domain secondary.mydomain.com how (in webmin) do
> > I
> > > > tell bind to delegate that subdomain/zone to DNS server
> > > > ns5.mydomain.com ?
> > >
> > > Create an NS record in mydomain.com named secondary, with ns5.mydomain.com
> > > as the name server.
> > >
> > >  - Jamie
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier
> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642
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Matt wrote:
> Understood, if I want to deligate mydomain.com... however I want to
> deligate secondary.mydomain.com to ns5.mydomain.com.. that is .. I am
> not deligating mydomain.com to ns5, but rather secondary.mydomain.com
> to ns5.

Actually, what Jamie said is correct;  rather than an NS record that
looks like this:

@	IN	NS	ns5.mydomain.com.

or

mydomain.com.	IN	NS	ns5.mydomain.com.

(which create NS records for mydomain.com) what he suggested would
create a record like this:

secondary	IN	NS	ns5.mydomain.com.

(Actually, it appears Webmin fully qualifies the delegated zone:
secondary.mydomain.com.	IN	NS	ns5.mydomain.com.
I'm not certain whether that's good or bad in the long run - it would
cause Weirdness on some of my zones.)

> On 10/27/06, Jamie Cameron <jca...@we...> wrote:
>> Create an NS record in mydomain.com named secondary, with ns5.mydomain.com
>> as the name server.

To rephrase this a bit, specific to Webmin:

Create an NS record with "Zone Name" as the zone you want to delegate
(either the partial name secondary, or the fully-qualified
secondary.mydomain.com. [note the trailing dot!]), name server as the
FQDN of the nameserver you want.

-kgd

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