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From: Adam K. <ake...@ni...> - 2005-09-21 16:04:51
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 So I had this idea today. I know it would make my life easier. A new webmin module named "Summary" or "Server Summary". This module would display a simple status from all modules in webmin. It could call a function from each webmin module, much like the function when adding a system user. That function would return some status info for that modules block. It would be up to each module's configuration page as to what would be displayed in this "summary module". For example. The module would start out with a section (each section is either in a table cell which would be made pretty, or seperated by an <hr>) that listed the status of webmin (perhaps how many users are logged in, port it's using, ssl enabled, etc.). Then let's say the next section would be from a module, say samba for example, and could list samba's daemon statuses, then the next could be DansGuardian and list it's status, filter levels etc, then Apache could list up/down and performance stuff. I think it would be an awesome thing to use with the "go directly to this module upon login" feature. A person could login to webmin and see a quick status of the server, then optionally click on the section's title to go directly to that module to change something. Ideas? Thoughts? This would obviously require an API change for the new function, but I think it would be an awesome thing to have. - -- Northern Indiana ESC Adam Kennedy - ake...@ni... Linux Specialist / Network Administrator Phone: (574) 254-5210 Toll Free: 866-254-5322 Fax: (574) 254-0148 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDMYUSV72KWYU3lA0RAnH7AJ4p+evxvIn6sKBiKoN8b2xMoXlzHwCcCe2V +4fYPXENcEZ4x38pEIvXzUQ= =MKAm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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From: Paul C. <pcu...@op...> - 2005-09-21 16:58:15
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Adam Kennedy wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >So I had this idea today. I know it would make my life easier. > >A new webmin module named "Summary" or "Server Summary". > >This module would display a simple status from all modules in webmin. It >could call a function from each webmin module, much like the function >when adding a system user. That function would return some status info >for that modules block. It would be up to each module's configuration >page as to what would be displayed in this "summary module". > > >For example. > >The module would start out with a section (each section is either in a >table cell which would be made pretty, or seperated by an <hr>) that >listed the status of webmin (perhaps how many users are logged in, port >it's using, ssl enabled, etc.). Then let's say the next section would be >from a module, say samba for example, and could list samba's daemon >statuses, then the next could be DansGuardian and list it's status, >filter levels etc, then Apache could list up/down and performance stuff. > >I think it would be an awesome thing to use with the "go directly to >this module upon login" feature. A person could login to webmin and see >a quick status of the server, then optionally click on the section's >title to go directly to that module to change something. > > >Ideas? Thoughts? This would obviously require an API change for the new >function, but I think it would be an awesome thing to have. > > This seems a neat idea to me. Does anyone thing that having a Webmin Wiki would be useful and/or another neat idea? I am Paul Cubbage, Evangelist for Open Country (OC), the company sponsoring Webmin. I will be putting up a survey shorty, linkable from within Webmin, to get input on what people want added to/changed in Webmin. The final decision(s) on mods will be Jamie's but he does implement features that the community is willing to fund. That being said, OC will give serious consideration to funding anything with strong support from within the Webmin community. Paul Cubbage >- -- >Northern Indiana ESC >Adam Kennedy - ake...@ni... >Linux Specialist / Network Administrator >Phone: (574) 254-5210 >Toll Free: 866-254-5322 >Fax: (574) 254-0148 >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) > >iD8DBQFDMYUSV72KWYU3lA0RAnH7AJ4p+evxvIn6sKBiKoN8b2xMoXlzHwCcCe2V >+4fYPXENcEZ4x38pEIvXzUQ= >=MKAm >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >------------------------------------------------------- >SF.Net email is sponsored by: >Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download >it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own >Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php >- >Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at web...@li... >To remove yourself from this list, go to >http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list > >!DSPAM:43318529848701426413144! > > > > |
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From: Bob <Bo...@de...> - 2005-09-22 00:22:00
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I had almost torn out all my hair trying to get webmin running on Ubuntu 5.04 "The Hoary Hedgehog". I found that none of the instructions on the web worked, nor any of the email archives. I installed Ubuntu 5.04 "The Hoary Hedgehog" as a server only with minimal system. It is a real trip to work with an OS that does not allow login by root and you must do everything by sudo. Fixed that real quick: sudo passwd root Set the password and now you can login as root logged in as root mkdir /usr/local/src/webmin cd /usr/local/src/webmin wget http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/webadmin/webmin-1.230.tar.gz gunzip webmin-1.230.tar.gz tar xf webmin-1.230.tar cd webmin-1.230 ./setup.sh /usr/local/webmin accepted all defaults BUT webmin would not run cd /var/webmin nano miniserv.error [21/Sep/2005:16:17:25 -0700] miniserv.pl started [21/Sep/2005:16:17:25 -0700] Perl module Authen::PAM needed for PAM is not inst$ BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 2) line 1. OK, the Authen:PAM would not install for me. So, I edited /etc/miniserv.conf with nano (an editor that comes with ubuntu) changed the passwd_file=/etc/shadow to passwd_file=/etc/passwd wrote the file and exited nano then performed /etc/webmin/start and VOILE --- it works I hope this helps someone. I love Webmin and I get very frustrated when an Operating System does not like it to install and run properly. Jaime --- Thanks for a great program! Why? Ubuntu?? I am following instructions to install XEN and the instructions call for Ubuntu. Bob |
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From: Jamie C. <jca...@we...> - 2005-09-22 00:29:02
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On Thu, 2005-09-22 at 10:21, Bob wrote: > I had almost torn out all my hair trying to get webmin running on Ubuntu > 5.04 "The Hoary Hedgehog". > > I found that none of the instructions on the web worked, nor any of the > email archives. > > I installed Ubuntu 5.04 "The Hoary Hedgehog" as a server only with > minimal system. > > It is a real trip to work with an OS that does not allow login by root > and you must do everything by sudo. > > Fixed that real quick: sudo passwd root > Set the password and now you can login as root > logged in as root > > mkdir /usr/local/src/webmin > cd /usr/local/src/webmin > wget > http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/webadmin/webmin-1.230.tar.gz > gunzip webmin-1.230.tar.gz > tar xf webmin-1.230.tar > cd webmin-1.230 > ./setup.sh /usr/local/webmin > accepted all defaults > > BUT webmin would not run > > cd /var/webmin > nano miniserv.error > > [21/Sep/2005:16:17:25 -0700] miniserv.pl started > [21/Sep/2005:16:17:25 -0700] Perl module Authen::PAM needed for PAM is > not inst$ > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 2) line 1. > > OK, the Authen:PAM would not install for me. > > So, I edited /etc/miniserv.conf with nano (an editor that comes with ubuntu) > changed the > passwd_file=/etc/shadow > to > passwd_file=/etc/passwd > > wrote the file and exited nano > > then performed /etc/webmin/start > > and VOILE --- it works > > I hope this helps someone. > > I love Webmin and I get very frustrated when an Operating System does > not like it to install and run properly. > > Jaime --- Thanks for a great program! Hi Bob, So does Ubuntu use /etc/passwd instead of /etc/shadow for storing actual user passwords? That is quite surprising, as all other Linux distros have been using /etc/shadow for some time now, so Webmin just assumes that that is the correct file.. - Jamie |
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From: Daniel P. <da...@ri...> - 2005-09-22 02:43:21
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Jamie Cameron <jca...@we...> writes:
> On Thu, 2005-09-22 at 10:21, Bob wrote:
>> I had almost torn out all my hair trying to get webmin running on Ubuntu
>> 5.04 "The Hoary Hedgehog".
[...]
>> OK, the Authen:PAM would not install for me.
That is quite strange: Ubuntu (and Debian, which it is extremely close
to) both supply the package 'libauthen-pam-perl', which provides this
Perl module.
If you couldn't get that package to install, I would strongly suggest
that there is something rather wrong with your system at the moment.
[...]
> So does Ubuntu use /etc/passwd instead of /etc/shadow for storing actual
> user passwords? That is quite surprising,
It may be that Ubuntu still offers an option somewhere to turn off
shadow passwords; Debian does in the current release versions. You
have to /work/ to make it happen, and it sure isn't recommended.
> as all other Linux distros have been using /etc/shadow for some time
> now, so Webmin just assumes that that is the correct file..
As far as I know, Ubuntu does use shadow by default. In any case, from
the next release on they *will* be using shadow, since Debian/unstable
just turned off any support for non-shadow systems.
Personally, I suspect the original poster has a very oddly configured
box, as the inability to install an OS supplied package indicates.
My Ubuntu test machine tells me that shadow is the right answer, by the
way. It is the preview of the next release, but there hasn't been
/that/ much change from 5.04, which also used shadow by default.
Regards,
Daniel
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From: Jamie C. <jca...@we...> - 2005-09-22 00:33:54
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Hi Adam, That sounds like a pretty cool idea... I'm thinking that it may make more sense as part of the existing System and Server Status module, which currently just displays if various services are up or down. However, it could be enhanced to display additional information as you suggested, such as the system load, connected users, etc.. What do you think? - Jamie On Thu, 2005-09-22 at 02:06, Adam Kennedy wrote: > So I had this idea today. I know it would make my life easier. > > A new webmin module named "Summary" or "Server Summary". > > This module would display a simple status from all modules in webmin. It > could call a function from each webmin module, much like the function > when adding a system user. That function would return some status info > for that modules block. It would be up to each module's configuration > page as to what would be displayed in this "summary module". > > > For example. > > The module would start out with a section (each section is either in a > table cell which would be made pretty, or seperated by an <hr>) that > listed the status of webmin (perhaps how many users are logged in, port > it's using, ssl enabled, etc.). Then let's say the next section would be > from a module, say samba for example, and could list samba's daemon > statuses, then the next could be DansGuardian and list it's status, > filter levels etc, then Apache could list up/down and performance stuff. > > I think it would be an awesome thing to use with the "go directly to > this module upon login" feature. A person could login to webmin and see > a quick status of the server, then optionally click on the section's > title to go directly to that module to change something. > > > Ideas? Thoughts? This would obviously require an API change for the new > function, but I think it would be an awesome thing to have. |
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From: David W. B. <dw...@we...> - 2005-09-22 06:55:53
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To help kick this around: what about the excellent functionality I have been getting from Joe's System Information module? I have been using this module for quite some time and I am happy with the display but I think it has room for more sys info display. Or, glean some of the features from the System Information module for the <<<neat/cool idea>>>. :-) David. On 21/Sep/2005 19:32 Jamie Cameron wrote .. > Hi Adam, > That sounds like a pretty cool idea... > > I'm thinking that it may make more sense as part of the existing System > and Server Status module, which currently just displays if various > services are up or down. However, it could be enhanced to display > additional information as you suggested, such as the system load, > connected users, etc.. > > What do you think? > > - Jamie > > On Thu, 2005-09-22 at 02:06, Adam Kennedy wrote: > > So I had this idea today. I know it would make my life easier. > > > > A new webmin module named "Summary" or "Server Summary". > > > > This module would display a simple status from all modules in webmin. > It > > could call a function from each webmin module, much like the function > > when adding a system user. That function would return some status info > > for that modules block. It would be up to each module's configuration > > page as to what would be displayed in this "summary module". > > > > > > For example. > > > > The module would start out with a section (each section is either in > a > > table cell which would be made pretty, or seperated by an <hr>) that > > listed the status of webmin (perhaps how many users are logged in, port > > it's using, ssl enabled, etc.). Then let's say the next section would > be > > from a module, say samba for example, and could list samba's daemon > > statuses, then the next could be DansGuardian and list it's status, > > filter levels etc, then Apache could list up/down and performance stuff. > > > > I think it would be an awesome thing to use with the "go directly to > > this module upon login" feature. A person could login to webmin and see > > a quick status of the server, then optionally click on the section's > > title to go directly to that module to change something. > > > > > > Ideas? Thoughts? This would obviously require an API change for the new > > function, but I think it would be an awesome thing to have. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download > it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own > Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php > - > Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at web...@li... > To remove yourself from this list, go to > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list David Brown IT/Systems KBR - Gov. Ops. - USMI Kirkuk, Iraq Camp Warrior APO 09359 |
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From: Adam K. <ake...@ni...> - 2005-09-22 13:52:05
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mostly, I saw this screenshot and thought "that would be cool for webmin". http://www.clarkconnect.com/images/ss_dashboard.png David W. Brown proclaimed the following on 09/22/2005 01:55 AM: > To help kick this around: what about the excellent functionality I have been getting from Joe's System Information module? I have been using this module for quite some time and I am happy with the display but I think it has room for more sys info display. Or, glean some of the features from the System Information module for the <<<neat/cool idea>>>. :-) David. > > On 21/Sep/2005 19:32 Jamie Cameron wrote .. > >>Hi Adam, >>That sounds like a pretty cool idea... >> >>I'm thinking that it may make more sense as part of the existing System >>and Server Status module, which currently just displays if various >>services are up or down. However, it could be enhanced to display >>additional information as you suggested, such as the system load, >>connected users, etc.. >> >>What do you think? >> >> - Jamie >> >>On Thu, 2005-09-22 at 02:06, Adam Kennedy wrote: >> >>>So I had this idea today. I know it would make my life easier. >>> >>>A new webmin module named "Summary" or "Server Summary". >>> >>>This module would display a simple status from all modules in webmin. >> >>It >> >>>could call a function from each webmin module, much like the function >>>when adding a system user. That function would return some status info >>>for that modules block. It would be up to each module's configuration >>>page as to what would be displayed in this "summary module". >>> >>> >>>For example. >>> >>>The module would start out with a section (each section is either in >> >>a >> >>>table cell which would be made pretty, or seperated by an <hr>) that >>>listed the status of webmin (perhaps how many users are logged in, port >>>it's using, ssl enabled, etc.). Then let's say the next section would >> >>be >> >>>from a module, say samba for example, and could list samba's daemon >>>statuses, then the next could be DansGuardian and list it's status, >>>filter levels etc, then Apache could list up/down and performance stuff. >>> >>>I think it would be an awesome thing to use with the "go directly to >>>this module upon login" feature. A person could login to webmin and see >>>a quick status of the server, then optionally click on the section's >>>title to go directly to that module to change something. >>> >>> >>>Ideas? Thoughts? This would obviously require an API change for the new >>>function, but I think it would be an awesome thing to have. >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------- >>SF.Net email is sponsored by: >>Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download >>it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own >>Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php >>- >>Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at web...@li... >>To remove yourself from this list, go to >>http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list > > David Brown > IT/Systems > KBR - Gov. Ops. - USMI > Kirkuk, Iraq > Camp Warrior > APO 09359 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download > it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own > Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php > - > Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at web...@li... > To remove yourself from this list, go to > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list - -- Northern Indiana ESC Adam Kennedy - ake...@ni... Linux Specialist / Network Administrator Phone: (574) 254-5210 Toll Free: 866-254-5322 Fax: (574) 254-0148 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDMrdsV72KWYU3lA0RAl6iAKCnFoHnkDEsYUvom/zQzHYMRM8QMwCeKNnA ksyDzqIN9EdpAoOX9dC8rcc= =3p7p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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From: Joe C. <jo...@sw...> - 2005-09-22 19:15:52
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I think the neatest bit about my module is the graphs...and the way I actually draw them behind the scenes is pretty clunky, even after I converted it to a function rather than inline HTML--but I use nice images, which makes them look really good. Jamie can do better, and I'll donate my images (or draw some new ones) to make it look good. ;-) The right way to do it would probably be with a HTML+CSS graph drawing library that has nice output...but I couldn't find one three years ago when I was working on the graphs in the System Information module (and CSS didn't exist in all browsers). David W. Brown wrote: > To help kick this around: what about the excellent functionality I > have been getting from Joe's System Information module? I have been > using this module for quite some time and I am happy with the display > but I think it has room for more sys info display. Or, glean some of > the features from the System Information module for the <<<neat/cool > idea>>>. :-) David. |
